Re: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-06 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:12 +0100
Polytropon  wrote:

> Welcome to the glory of rapid application development and
> "modern" programming! :-)

Somebody could write a letter to the ACM: "Dynamic Linking Considered
Harmful" ... or sth in that vicinity 

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Re: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-05 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Polytropon wrote:


On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800, Chip Camden  
wrote:

Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off
relieves you of the dependency?


Or maybe it's an option to gnomevfs... or something
related to Gtk 2 in general...


It's not gutenprint (which I have installed), at least not directly. 
devel/gnome-vfs does have a Samba option, which is disabled here.

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Re: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-05 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800, Chip Camden  
wrote:
> Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off
> relieves you of the dependency?

Or maybe it's an option to gnomevfs... or something
related to Gtk 2 in general...


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Re: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-05 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Warren Block on Wednesday, 05 January 2011:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Chad Perrin wrote:
> 
> >Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require
> >libsmbclient?  This strikes me as the very height of software bloat
> >absurdity.  Maybe I'm missing something.
> 
> package = pre-built, off-the-rack, one-size-fits-all.
> 
> I don't know where the dependency comes in, but gimp withtout 
> libsmbclient works here.
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Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off
relieves you of the dependency?

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Re: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-05 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Chad Perrin wrote:


Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require
libsmbclient?  This strikes me as the very height of software bloat
absurdity.  Maybe I'm missing something.


package = pre-built, off-the-rack, one-size-fits-all.

I don't know where the dependency comes in, but gimp withtout 
libsmbclient works here.

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RE: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-05 Thread Gary Gatten
There's prolly a 10 line function the developer didn't want to write. I've seen 
some case where it takes more code to link to other packages than just write 
what's needed.  Drives me crazy to have to install apps that have "nothing" to 
do with the app I really need...

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Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require
libsmbclient?  This strikes me as the very height of software bloat
absurdity.  Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: the GIMP and Samba

2011-01-05 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:19:39 -0700, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require
> libsmbclient?  This strikes me as the very height of software bloat
> absurdity.  Maybe I'm missing something.

Welcome to the glory of rapid application development and
"modern" programming! :-)

According to your question: I am confident that the SMB
dependency is brought into Gimp by the gutenprint module
(can't even tell you exactly what it does, may have
something to do with CUPS I also don't have any use for).
CUPS seems to be hardcoded into Gimp even if you don't
use it (due to a normal printer).

The SMB dependency is also used by several Gnome-related
dependencies, such as Gnome-VFS, a part of nearly every
"file open" dialog in Gtk.

The /var/db/pkg//+REQUIRED_BY file tells you
about the next higher stage of dependency (maybe another
library or a "primary program" - the thing you actually
want to use).

Note that observations like this are the reason you have
to constantly buy a new computer in order to keep doing
the same things at the same average speed. :-)


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