Re: looking for online text editor

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David Banning wrote:

Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. I have
tried using webmin but sometimes outside computers stop me from
running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?  
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You could try pico.

I use it with ssh access to remote servers.




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Re: looking for online text editor

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 10:33:10AM -0500, Bill Vermillion wrote:

> > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:35:02 -0500
> > From: Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: looking for online text editor
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:11:31PM -0500, David Banning wrote:
> 
> > > Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. 
> > >   Is there some plain text editor program
> > > out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> > > plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?  
> 
> > Are you talking about something like 'vi(1)' ?   
> > That is the most standard plain text editor unless you want to
> > go even further down to sed(1).
> 
> > You would just ssh in (maybe using PuTTY if all you can get on
> > is a Microsloth box), log in as you and then su to root and edit
> > files directly.
> 
> Just a miner kerkshun here. :-)   I'm sure you mean ed(1) - the
> basic editor.  sed is the stream editor.

You are right.   The fingers seem to run under their own agenda.

jerry

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Bill Vermillion]

Deep in the forest in the dark of night on Wed, Dec
05, 2007 at 09:02 with a cackle and an evil grin
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> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:35:02 -0500
> From: Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: looking for online text editor

> On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:11:31PM -0500, David Banning wrote:

> > Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. I have
> > tried using webmin but sometimes outside computers stop me from
> > running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
> > mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> > out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> > plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?  

> Are you talking about something like 'vi(1)' ?   
> That is the most standard plain text editor unless you want to
> go even further down to sed(1).

> You would just ssh in (maybe using PuTTY if all you can get on
> is a Microsloth box), log in as you and then su to root and edit
> files directly.

Just a miner kerkshun here. :-)   I'm sure you mean ed(1) - the
basic editor.  sed is the stream editor.

The first Unix system I used [ actaully a very sparse Xenix ] did
not have 'vi' and the only text editor was 'ed'.

In retropsect it was good as I learned how to use regex's quite
early in the game which really helped when I got 'vi'.

I use 'vi' for 99% of my work - including news and email - and
still have probably only scratched 15% of it's capabilites.
The first 'vi' implementations I used were limited to 500KB per
instansiaton so I wound up using 'split' to be able to work on
large file and then pasted them together later. Things just get
better with each passing year.


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Re: looking for online text editor

[Derek Ragona]

At 01:11 PM 12/4/2007, David Banning wrote:

Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. I have
tried using webmin but sometimes outside computers stop me from
running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?


I use putty to ssh to remote servers and use vi to edit files once logged 
in to the server.


-Derek

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Jonathan McKeown]

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 22:14, David Banning wrote:
> >  running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
> >  mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> >  out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> >  plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> >
> >I use putty to ssh to remote servers and use vi to edit files once
> >logged in to the server.
>
> But putty has be installed on the machine you are working on, right?

Not necessarily. When you go to the download site for putty and click on 
the .exe (), 
Windows will ask you whether you want to download the program or run it. Tell 
Windows to run it. It may give you the odd warning but eventually it should 
start up a putty window. (It's possible even this can be locked down tight on 
a Windows box - but usually it isn't blocked).

Jonathan
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Re: looking for online text editor

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:14:05PM -0500, David Banning wrote:

> >  running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
> >  mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> >  out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> >  plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> > 
> >I use putty to ssh to remote servers and use vi to edit files once
> >logged in to the server.
> 
> But putty has be installed on the machine you are working on, right?
> 
> I need to have access on, say a library computer, where no local software
> can be installed. 


It is only a file that can be downloaded and put on the desktop
and run from there.   I have done so in I-cafes, libraries and community
centers with public computers, hotel lobbies, churches in many countries.   
Some place might block it, I suppose, but I haven't run in to any.

You can also try running the 'portable' PuTTY from a USB stick as 
someone has suggested.

jerry

>I can log in to webmin and edit the files via their 
> file manager.  The actual edit process does -not- appear to be java,
> but the file manager to select the file -is- java so I can't select 
> the file to edit.
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Re: looking for online text editor

[Derek Ragona]

At 02:14 PM 12/4/2007, David Banning wrote:

>  running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
>  mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
>  out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
>  plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
>
>I use putty to ssh to remote servers and use vi to edit files once
>logged in to the server.

But putty has be installed on the machine you are working on, right?

I need to have access on, say a library computer, where no local software
can be installed. I can log in to webmin and edit the files via their
file manager.  The actual edit process does -not- appear to be java,
but the file manager to select the file -is- java so I can't select
the file to edit.


Putty is pretty much standalone executable, at least the one for Windows 
is, you can run it from a thumb drive.


If you need a web based application, you can install firefox on a thumb 
drive as well.


-Derek

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Kurt Buff]

On Dec 4, 2007 1:05 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > PuTTY has no installer - It's just a binary.
>
> Actually there is a windows installer for putty

But you don't need to use it. All you need is the executable.
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Re: looking for online text editor

[Chess Griffin]

* Chess Griffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-04 15:39:55]:

> 
> Along these same lines, you can keep a copy of Portable Vim [1] and
> Portable PuTTY [2] on a usb stick and run them from Windows.  They work
> as-advertised and are pretty handy.
> 
> [1] http://portablegvim.sourceforge.net/
> [2] http://portableapps.com/node/1134
> 

Sorry, bad link for Portable PuTTY.  Correct one is here:

http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/putty_portable


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Re: looking for online text editor

[Olivier Mueller]

Le 4 déc. 07 à 21:09, David Banning a écrit :


mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?



...You can't just SSH into your box and use vim?


Let's say I'm in a library in some remote town. The only SSH I know
that is web loadable is mindterm-ssh, but that runs on java. If java  
is

blocked on the local box then I'm SOL. No?


Then the last solution is to use ajaxterm...  Doesn't require any  
special

extension like java:  http://anthony.lesuisse.com/qweb/trac/wiki/AjaxTerm

Of course it's recommanded to access it via https...

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Chess Griffin]

* Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-04 15:29:47]:

> In response to David Banning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > > > mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> > > > out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> > > > plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > ...You can't just SSH into your box and use vim?
> > 
> > Let's say I'm in a library in some remote town. The only SSH I know 
> > that is web loadable is mindterm-ssh, but that runs on java. If java is
> > blocked on the local box then I'm SOL. No?
> 
> Just use puTTY.  You can download it and run it without any installation.
> 
> If you're that locked down that you can't do any of those things, I'd
> suggest you get a laptop or other way to manage this remotely.  What good
> is a text editor if you can't restart daemons or HUP them?  Nokia cell
> phones have an SSH client available.
> 

Along these same lines, you can keep a copy of Portable Vim [1] and
Portable PuTTY [2] on a usb stick and run them from Windows.  They work
as-advertised and are pretty handy.

[1] http://portablegvim.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://portableapps.com/node/1134

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Re: looking for online text editor

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> PuTTY has no installer - It's just a binary.

Actually there is a windows installer for putty

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Schiz0]

On Dec 4, 2007 3:14 PM, David Banning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
> >  mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> >  out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> >  plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> >
> >I use putty to ssh to remote servers and use vi to edit files once
> >logged in to the server.
>
> But putty has be installed on the machine you are working on, right?
>
> I need to have access on, say a library computer, where no local software
> can be installed. I can log in to webmin and edit the files via their
> file manager.  The actual edit process does -not- appear to be java,
> but the file manager to select the file -is- java so I can't select
> the file to edit.
>
PuTTY has no installer - It's just a binary.

I think your only choices are PuTTY, that AjaxTerm someone mentioned
earlier, or AnyTerm (Linked to on the AjaxTerm website).
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Re: looking for online text editor

[David Banning]

>  running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
>  mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
>  out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
>  plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> 
>I use putty to ssh to remote servers and use vi to edit files once
>logged in to the server.

But putty has be installed on the machine you are working on, right?

I need to have access on, say a library computer, where no local software
can be installed. I can log in to webmin and edit the files via their 
file manager.  The actual edit process does -not- appear to be java,
but the file manager to select the file -is- java so I can't select 
the file to edit.
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Re: looking for online text editor

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 03:09:11PM -0500, David Banning wrote:

> > > mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> > > out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> > > plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> > >
> > 
> > ...You can't just SSH into your box and use vim?
> 
> Let's say I'm in a library in some remote town. The only SSH I know 
> that is web loadable is mindterm-ssh, but that runs on java. If java is
> blocked on the local box then I'm SOL. No?

Download and use PuTTY.   It is quite straightforward and does ssh.
I have put it on machines all over the world with no problem.

jerry

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:11:31PM -0500, David Banning wrote:

> Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. I have
> tried using webmin but sometimes outside computers stop me from
> running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
> mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?  

Are you talking about something like 'vi(1)' ?   
That is the most standard plain text editor unless you want to
go even further down to sed(1).

You would just ssh in (maybe using PuTTY if all you can get on is
a Microsloth box), log in as you and then su to root and edit files directly.

jerry

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Re: looking for online text editor

[Bill Moran]

In response to David Banning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > > mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> > > out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> > > plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> > >
> > 
> > ...You can't just SSH into your box and use vim?
> 
> Let's say I'm in a library in some remote town. The only SSH I know 
> that is web loadable is mindterm-ssh, but that runs on java. If java is
> blocked on the local box then I'm SOL. No?

Just use puTTY.  You can download it and run it without any installation.

If you're that locked down that you can't do any of those things, I'd
suggest you get a laptop or other way to manage this remotely.  What good
is a text editor if you can't restart daemons or HUP them?  Nokia cell
phones have an SSH client available.

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Re: looking for online text editor

[David Banning]

> > mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> > out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> > plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
> >
> 
> ...You can't just SSH into your box and use vim?

Let's say I'm in a library in some remote town. The only SSH I know 
that is web loadable is mindterm-ssh, but that runs on java. If java is
blocked on the local box then I'm SOL. No?
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Re: looking for online text editor

[Schiz0]

On Dec 4, 2007 2:11 PM, David Banning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. I have
> tried using webmin but sometimes outside computers stop me from
> running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
> mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
> out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
> plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?
>

...You can't just SSH into your box and use vim?
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looking for online text editor

[David Banning]

Often I have to maintain my fbsd box from outside locations. I have
tried using webmin but sometimes outside computers stop me from
running the java filemanager - same goes for attempting to run
mindterm-ssh. Is there some plain text editor program
out there that will allow me to simply login and edit my files in
plain text - (not a gui html editor) ?  
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