Re: syntax problem in /etc/csh.login

2003-02-14 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Colin J. Raven wrote:


+> > if [ `whoami` = test ]; then
+> > echo ""
+> > echo -e "This is a test message for user test" && \
+> > echo ""
+> > fi
+> > ###
+> > 
+> > and got an error upon subsequent login as user "test":
+> > "if: Expression Syntax." (without parens)
+> > 
+> > Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong? 
+> > Guess: csh syntax is different from bash 
+> 
+> You're right!
Well, thanks!

+> > but beyond that I'm stumped.
+> 
+> beyond that comes 'man csh'.
Oh for goodness sakes

I am sure it does but reading man csh is a 2 week exercise.which
considering I don't normally use csh, but a few of my user opoulation
does, it's not likely that I am going to absorb all the huge amount of
information in man csh for a shell I never use personally.
 
+> Sorry, but you have to read it yourself! ;-)
+> 
+> Hint: As the name of the shell suggests, the syntax quite C-like.

Response to "Hint"
Most assuredly your response indicates substantial knowledge of C.
Unlike you however, I am not a programmer but "catch on quickly" to most
things.and my post was no more than asking someone to "jumpstart me"
which usually starts me on a reading binge in FURTHER pursuit of
knowledge. Right now I have absolutely no clue as to where to begin.

On this list of all places, I did not expect the supercilious "RTFM"
response. It's uncalled for, it's unecessary and furthermore does not
speak well of your willingness to be of assistance to those less
knowledgeable than yourself. Instead it smacks of a (largely useless)
demonstration of what *you* know and others *don't* know.

I wonder...seriouslyI wonder why you even elected to respond at
all Remaining silent would have been the elegant solution.

Hey man, cool down :-)

man pages *are* the primary source of information. Also i don't know the 
csh syntax myself (only use sh/bash), that's why i referred you to the 
man page. I also have *very* limited knowledge about C, but the name 
"c-shell" really comes from C. This happens to be one of the things that 
i remember from my first UNIX course some 10 years ago.
The csh man page is in fact very long, but you don't have to read it 
completely. I had a look into it myself, by browsing and searching (use 
the "/" (slash) button) one can find the "if" syntax quite quickly.

Sorry for having hurt your feelings :-)

Kond regards,

	Heinrich



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Re: syntax problem in /etc/csh.login

2003-02-14 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:40:17PM +0100, Colin J. Raven typed:
> 
> +> > if [ `whoami` = test ]; then
> +> > echo ""
> +> > echo -e "This is a test message for user test" && \
> +> > echo ""
> +> > fi
> +> > ###
> +> > 
> +> > and got an error upon subsequent login as user "test":
> +> > "if: Expression Syntax." (without parens)
> +> > 
> +> > Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong? 
> +> > Guess: csh syntax is different from bash 
> +> 
> +> You're right!
> Well, thanks!
> 
> +> > but beyond that I'm stumped.
> +> 
> +> beyond that comes 'man csh'.
> Oh for goodness sakes
> 
> I am sure it does but reading man csh is a 2 week exercise.which
> considering I don't normally use csh, but a few of my user opoulation
> does, it's not likely that I am going to absorb all the huge amount of
> information in man csh for a shell I never use personally.

I agree the csh manpage is quite large. But what about google? The first 
hit in a search for "csh conditional statements" is a tutorial with 
examples of exactly what you're asking. 

> +> Sorry, but you have to read it yourself! ;-)
> +> 
> +> Hint: As the name of the shell suggests, the syntax quite C-like.
> 
> Response to "Hint"
> Most assuredly your response indicates substantial knowledge of C.
> Unlike you however, I am not a programmer but "catch on quickly" to most
> things.and my post was no more than asking someone to "jumpstart me"
> which usually starts me on a reading binge in FURTHER pursuit of
> knowledge. Right now I have absolutely no clue as to where to begin.
> 
> On this list of all places, I did not expect the supercilious "RTFM"
> response. It's uncalled for, it's unecessary and furthermore does not
> speak well of your willingness to be of assistance to those less
> knowledgeable than yourself. Instead it smacks of a (largely useless)
> demonstration of what *you* know and others *don't* know.

On the other hand, you might do >some< research before asking a question,
especially since it was not a FreeBSD specific question.

> I wonder...seriouslyI wonder why you even elected to respond at
> all Remaining silent would have been the elegant solution.
> 
> Regards to all - as always.
> -Colin
> 
> 
> 
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Re: syntax problem in /etc/csh.login

2003-02-14 Thread Daniel Bye
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:10:15PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote:
> Greetings all!
> Trying to create a custom login message for csh users. 
> I put the following in /etc/csh.login
> 
> ###
> if [ `whoami` = user1 ]; then
> echo ""
> echo -e "This is a test message for user1" && \
> echo ""
> else
> if [ `whoami` = user2 ]; then
> echo ""
> echo -e "This is a test message for user2" && \
> echo ""
> else
> if [ `whoami` = test ]; then
> echo ""
> echo -e "This is a test message for user test" && \
> echo ""
> fi
> ###
> 
> and got an error upon subsequent login as user "test":
> "if: Expression Syntax." (without parens)
> 
> Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong? 
> Guess: csh syntax is different from bash but beyond that I'm stumped.

Further guess (but informed by a brief read-up in UNIX in a Nutshell):

The conditions for an 'if' statement should be enclosed in parentheses,
rather than using the [ or test.  However, it may still do funky stuff
with the command substitution...

The block syntax for "if" statements is:

if (expr) then
cmds
endif

===

if (expr) then
cmds
else 
cmds
endif

==

if (expr) then
cmds
else if (expr) then
cmds2
else
cmds3
endif

HTH,

Dan

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RE: syntax problem in /etc/csh.login

2003-02-14 Thread Colin J. Raven

+> > if [ `whoami` = test ]; then
+> > echo ""
+> > echo -e "This is a test message for user test" && \
+> > echo ""
+> > fi
+> > ###
+> > 
+> > and got an error upon subsequent login as user "test":
+> > "if: Expression Syntax." (without parens)
+> > 
+> > Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong? 
+> > Guess: csh syntax is different from bash 
+> 
+> You're right!
Well, thanks!

+> > but beyond that I'm stumped.
+> 
+> beyond that comes 'man csh'.
Oh for goodness sakes

I am sure it does but reading man csh is a 2 week exercise.which
considering I don't normally use csh, but a few of my user opoulation
does, it's not likely that I am going to absorb all the huge amount of
information in man csh for a shell I never use personally.
 
+> Sorry, but you have to read it yourself! ;-)
+> 
+> Hint: As the name of the shell suggests, the syntax quite C-like.

Response to "Hint"
Most assuredly your response indicates substantial knowledge of C.
Unlike you however, I am not a programmer but "catch on quickly" to most
things.and my post was no more than asking someone to "jumpstart me"
which usually starts me on a reading binge in FURTHER pursuit of
knowledge. Right now I have absolutely no clue as to where to begin.

On this list of all places, I did not expect the supercilious "RTFM"
response. It's uncalled for, it's unecessary and furthermore does not
speak well of your willingness to be of assistance to those less
knowledgeable than yourself. Instead it smacks of a (largely useless)
demonstration of what *you* know and others *don't* know.

I wonder...seriouslyI wonder why you even elected to respond at
all Remaining silent would have been the elegant solution.

Regards to all - as always.
-Colin




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Re: syntax problem in /etc/csh.login

2003-02-14 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Colin J. Raven wrote:

Greetings all!
Trying to create a custom login message for csh users. 
I put the following in /etc/csh.login

###
if [ `whoami` = user1 ]; then
echo ""
echo -e "This is a test message for user1" && \
echo ""
else
if [ `whoami` = user2 ]; then
echo ""
echo -e "This is a test message for user2" && \
echo ""
else
if [ `whoami` = test ]; then
echo ""
echo -e "This is a test message for user test" && \
echo ""
fi
###

and got an error upon subsequent login as user "test":
"if: Expression Syntax." (without parens)

Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong? 
Guess: csh syntax is different from bash 

You're right!


but beyond that I'm stumped.


beyond that comes 'man csh'.

Sorry, but you have to read it yourself! ;-)

Hint: As the name of the shell suggests, the syntax quite C-like.



Regards & TIA,
-Colin


Reegards

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syntax problem in /etc/csh.login

2003-02-14 Thread Colin J. Raven
Greetings all!
Trying to create a custom login message for csh users. 
I put the following in /etc/csh.login

###
if [ `whoami` = user1 ]; then
echo ""
echo -e "This is a test message for user1" && \
echo ""
else
if [ `whoami` = user2 ]; then
echo ""
echo -e "This is a test message for user2" && \
echo ""
else
if [ `whoami` = test ]; then
echo ""
echo -e "This is a test message for user test" && \
echo ""
fi
###

and got an error upon subsequent login as user "test":
"if: Expression Syntax." (without parens)

Anyone got any idea what I'm doing wrong? 
Guess: csh syntax is different from bash but beyond that I'm stumped.

Regards & TIA,
-Colin





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