Re: newbie: weekly tape backup advice

[Ryan Merrick]

admin wrote:
Hi,

I need some help setting up a tape backup system.  I have two FreeBSD machines
and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50.  Got any clues how I can start a weekly
back up plan here? 

Thanks in advance,

Noah

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Take a look at afbackup in the ports at #/usr/ports/misc/afbackup .

Look at Storagemountain.com and look for articles by Curtis Preston.

Ryan Merrick

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Slow machine - I need FreeBSD

[Alex Zivenko]

I have one VERY SLOW MACHINE - 486SX 25 MHZ, hdd only 100Mb, can I setup FreeBSD on 
this machine? I need a very old version of FreeBSD, where I can get it? 
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Re: Slow machine - I need FreeBSD

[Voicu Liviu]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:39:14 +0400
"Alex Zivenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have one VERY SLOW MACHINE - 486SX 25 MHZ, hdd only 100Mb, can I setup FreeBSD on 
> this machine? I need a very old version of FreeBSD, where I can get it? 

4.8 also will do the job ( I believe so )

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Re: Two DNS servers with one IP address

[Michal F. Hanula]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:52:42PM -0500, Alfonso Romero wrote:
> Is it possible to have two DNS servers with only one public IP
> address? I have a FreeBSD gateway connected to the Internet with a DSL
> modem, using natd to connect the other PCs on my LAN, and was
> wondering if I could have two DNS servers to register domain names.
You could do some magic using port redirection based on whatever you
want (source IP?). I can't even imagine the point of it, but it could be
done.
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Re: Two DNS servers with one IP address

[K Anderson]

Michal F. Hanula wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:52:42PM -0500, Alfonso Romero wrote:

Is it possible to have two DNS servers with only one public IP
address? I have a FreeBSD gateway connected to the Internet with a DSL
modem, using natd to connect the other PCs on my LAN, and was
wondering if I could have two DNS servers to register domain names.
You could do some magic using port redirection based on whatever you
want (source IP?). I can't even imagine the point of it, but it could be
done.
m&f
I don't know what the poster's reason is for having two DNS servers but
have a look and bind 9. Do the opposite. Have one DNS server act as two. 
With views you can have the outside world see one thing and the inside 
world see another.  That's how I'm set up. One view is called external 
and when folks make a query to it it responds with what I've told it. 
But when an internal machine makes a request the DNS will respond 
differently. It all depends how you define the views.
Way nifty and the systems are none the wiser. :)

HTH

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Re: max group name length

[David Landgren]

David Bear wrote:

was just trying to determine the maximum string length of a group
name.
found 
struct group {
 char*gr_name;   /* group name */

but no size.

any pointers (with limits)?
Hmm, I had a browse through the kernel source for a while but didn't 
find anything definite. What I do know is that you should endeavour to 
keep the length no greater than 8. Up to 15 is probably ok as well on 
modern kernels, and group names longer than 15 is getting a bit silly.

Sorry no to have anything more precise.

David

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chkrootkit version 0.41 results on FBSD 5.1R#0

[Tak Pui LOU]

I have the following listed as INFECTED:

Checking `chfn'... INFECTED
Checking `chsh'... INFECTED
Checking `date'... INFECTED
Checking `ls'... INFECTED
Checking `ps'... INFECTED

Does anyone have the same output?

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Re: chkrootkit version 0.41 results on FBSD 5.1R#0

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:02:19AM -0700, Tak Pui LOU wrote:
> I have the following listed as INFECTED:
> 
> Checking `chfn'... INFECTED
> Checking `chsh'... INFECTED
> Checking `date'... INFECTED
> Checking `ls'... INFECTED
> Checking `ps'... INFECTED
> 
> Does anyone have the same output?

FAQ..please consult the archives.

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Difference between ipf/ipfw and ipnat/natd

[Andreas Dahlén]

Hello!

I'm going to install FreeBSD 4.8 as a firewall/gateway for my homenetwork.

I've seen that there are two implementations of firewalls in FreeBSD; 
ipf and ipfw and fot NAT ipnat/natd.

As I understand ipf and ipnat works together and ipfw and natd. Is that 
correct?

Which one of them should I use?
Is there some major differences between them?
/Andreas

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Re: chkrootkit version 0.41 results on FBSD 5.1R#0

[Tak Pui LOU]

I read about this before. But, I just updated the port source tree and did
a portupgrade. These programs are still listed as INFECTED. So, my
question should be if these have been fixed or someone is really messing
with my system.

---
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:02:19AM -0700, Tak Pui LOU wrote:
> > I have the following listed as INFECTED:
> >
> > Checking `chfn'... INFECTED
> > Checking `chsh'... INFECTED
> > Checking `date'... INFECTED
> > Checking `ls'... INFECTED
> > Checking `ps'... INFECTED
> >
> > Does anyone have the same output?
>
> FAQ..please consult the archives.
>
> Kris
>
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Can the FreeBSD handbook be sold?

[Miguel Mendez]

Hi,

I came across this:

http://store.fultus.com/product_info.php?cPath=5_10&products_id=1

These guys are selling a pdf version of the handbook for 35 bucks a pop.
Is that legal? Because, if it is, I'll wget the online doc, pipe it to a
pdf creator and sell it for $25 ;-P

I'm just curious about the status of documentation.

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Re: Difference between ipf/ipfw and ipnat/natd

[Erik Trulsson]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:03:50AM +0200, Andreas Dahlén wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I'm going to install FreeBSD 4.8 as a firewall/gateway for my homenetwork.
> 
> I've seen that there are two implementations of firewalls in FreeBSD; 
> ipf and ipfw and fot NAT ipnat/natd.
> 
> As I understand ipf and ipnat works together and ipfw and natd. Is that 
> correct?

Correct.

> 
> Which one of them should I use?

Whichever one strikes your fancy.  It doesn't really matter.  They both
do the same job, and both do it fairly well.

> Is there some major differences between them?

Yes and no.  There are of course many differences (the implementation
is completely different, the configuration files are completely
different) but for an ordinary user who is not familiar with either the
differences are not very important.




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Installing from two repositories

[Rus Foster]

Hi All,
Trying to wokr out how to do the following. I've got the base 5.1 CD whihc
has some compiled ports on. I'm also install things from /usr/ports. What
I would like is for the system to first query the cd-rom. If there is a
prebuilt package then download the source. Is there any way to do this?

Rgds

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Re: Can the FreeBSD handbook be sold?

[Alex de Kruijff]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 11:53:28AM +0200, Miguel Mendez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I came across this:
> 
> http://store.fultus.com/product_info.php?cPath=5_10&products_id=1
> 
> These guys are selling a pdf version of the handbook for 35 bucks a pop.
> Is that legal? Because, if it is, I'll wget the online doc, pipe it to a
> pdf creator and sell it for $25 ;-P
> 
> I'm just curious about the status of documentation.
> 
> Cheers,
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I beleave the handbook has the same licence as the system, which is BSD.
As long as they don't act against this licence then its legal. And there 
is a lot you are allowed to do.

Alex
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Re: Slow machine - I need FreeBSD

[Alex de Kruijff]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:39:14AM +0400, Alex Zivenko wrote:
> I have one VERY SLOW MACHINE - 486SX 25 MHZ, hdd only 100Mb, can I setup FreeBSD on 
> this machine? I need a very old version of FreeBSD, where I can get it? 

I use to run 4.x on a similair computer. The only thing you need to wurry
about is the amound of memory and what you want to do with it. 8MB internal
memory is the absoluut minium, 16 is prefered (i had 32). (You don't wanna 
run programs like spamassassin.)

Alex
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Re: Web Server not allowing external visitors

[Gav...]

| First of all you have two different nats running. The ppp_nat="YES"
| option says use nat function of pppd  and natd_enable="YES" says to
| use NATD function of firewall. So you have nated your private lan ip
| address 2 times which is a user config error. You need option
| gateway_enable="YES" to pass packets to lan.  I would comment out to
| disable the firewall options until you have thinks working and them
| add firewall. To many things happening and you do not know who is at
| fault so limit testing to one thing at time. With apache server on
| gateway box you do not need port 80 forwarding.
|
|
| in /etc/rc.conf.
|
| ppp_nat="YES"
| gateway_enable="YES"
| defaultrouter="NO"
|
| #firewall_enable="YES"
| #firewall_type="OPEN"  //  (Yes I know but whilst testing!)
| #natd_enable="YES"
| #natd_interface="tun0"
| #natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
|
|

Ok, I did all this and lost all access to the internet from the other LAN
computers. - even with firewall disabled, ipfw is not letting anything
through.
It seems maybe that ppp_nat is not working or not fully configured, what are
all the files and options I need
to change for this to work properly?

When I boot the computer, the ADSL Modem automatically dials my ISP and
connects fine, but then to gain access to the internet properly I have to do
this:

killall natd
killall ppp
ppp -background adsl
natd -dynamic -n tun0

I can then access the internet fine  - without the natd line I can not
access the internet, I tried without this line.

So maybe a bit more firewall and natd config is required I dont know.?

As the Web Server at the moment then is on my FreeBSD machine I do not need
any kind of port forwarding, but maybe I still need to more IPFW rules?

At the moment one tester has reported that he is getting the following:-

 'Gateway Timeout ' error
A gateway timeout error has occured.The Server is unreachable, please retry
the request.
(GATEWAY_TIMEOUT)
Please contact the Administrator.

Any ideas, thanks for all the help so far.

Gav...

(Original message left intact for now for those that missed it first time)

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gav
| Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:59 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Web Server not allowing external visitors
|
| Hi,
|
| Subject says it all really, what good is a website if only I can
| view it?
|
| Ok, brief history of problem and setup details, I'm sure I'll leave
| something out you need.
|
| I had 3 computers all run MS and Apache2 Web Server was on the main
| one
| connecting to the net via ADSL and using dyndns.org client to update
| the
| dynamic IP address. No probs.
|
| I then decide to change my setup and add a FreeBSD Router/Firewall
| .and. a
| separate (NT)  Web Server.
| I installed my dns update client onto the new web server , enabled
| NATd (am
| connected via PPPoA/E) , enabled port_forward tcp rules on port 80
| to point
| to this Web Server machine. I also tried IPFW rules etc etc and
| could not
| get the outside world to connect. I thought I would instead put the
| Web
| Server (until I know better) onto the FreeBSD router machine.
|
| Still no go, All my internal machines can - by typing in the
| registered
| domain names, access the web server ok, the Apache Test page comes
| up ok. So
| by typing in www:mysite:com I get the sites ok. This I don't really
| understand. Surely my other computers must be going to the external
| www ,
| getting the domain name resolved, getting the dynamic IP address
| allocated
| to me , and then coming back to my FreeBSD router where it gets
| served the
| web site. So why can't anyone else now access it.??
|
| I'd love to give you a url to test it but this is a public forum and
| my
| router is still not very secure at the moment, however I do have
| trusted
| people testing it for me regularly.
|
| Now , settings I think of relevance (having tried all sorts of
| setups using
| different techniques , I may have mixed up some settings and
| probably have a
| cocktail of settings) are (syntax copied exactly) :-
|
| in /etc/rc.conf.
|
| ppp_nat="YES"
| defaultrouter="NO"
| firewall_enable="YES"
| firewall_type="OPEN"  //  (Yes I know but whilst testing!)
| natd_enable="YES"
| natd_interface="tun0"
| natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf"
| #hostname="mydomain"  // I left this commented out for now ?
|
| There are other settings in this file of course but felt only the
| above
| relevant to this post.
|
| in /etc/natd.conf.
|
| interface tun0
| dynamic yes
|
| in /etc/resolv.conf
|
| domain mydomain.com
| nameserver 11.2.333.44
| nameserver 11.2.333.55
|
| //above values changed!
|
| in /etc/rc.firewall
|
| /sbin/ipfw -f flush
| /sbin/ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via tun0
| /sbin/ipfw add divert natd tcp from 192.168.0.2 80 to any
| /sbin/ipfw add divert natd tcp from any to 192.168.0.2 80
| /sbin/ipfw add divert natd tcp from any to 192.168.2.1 80
| /sbin/ipfw ad

Re: Two DNS servers with one IP address

[Len Conrad]

Is it possible to have two DNS servers with only one public IP address?
no.  when you run the first instance, it will listen on port 53.  When you 
run the second instance, it will fail, because port 53 is occupied.

I have a FreeBSD gateway connected to the Internet with a DSL modem, using 
natd to connect the other PCs on my LAN, and was wondering if I could have 
two DNS servers to register domain names.
You an play administrative games, depending on the registrar, by 
registering two hosts at the same IP, but two won't run on the same IP.

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Re: chkrootkit version 0.41 results on FBSD 5.1R#0

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:14:45AM -0700, Tak Pui LOU wrote:
> I read about this before. But, I just updated the port source tree and did
> a portupgrade. These programs are still listed as INFECTED. So, my
> question should be if these have been fixed or someone is really messing
> with my system.

This question is asked regularly on the FreeBSD mailing lists.  Please
do some further research.

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Help me

["shura shev"]

   Please. Can you help me?
 I bought Digi ClassicBoard PCI on 4 ports. I couldn't install it. My computer-Pentium 
150, 16 mb memory, 1Gb HDD. The only OS I was able to install on my computer was 
FreeBSD 4.8 Unix. I could not install Linux Red Hat. 
 When system loads without specifying card in a kernel, it gives message:
  pci0:  (vendor=0x114f, dev=0x0028) at 10.0 irq 11
In FreeBSD there is a file pucdata.c - a universal driver for PCI card. This is a 
structure that has to be included in this file:
  {   "Digi 114f",
   {   0x114f, 0x0028, 0,  0   },
   {   0x, 0x, 0,  0,  },
   {
   { PUC_PORT_TYPE_COM, 0x18, 0x00, COM_FREQ * 8 },
   { PUC_PORT_TYPE_COM, 0x18, 0x08, COM_FREQ * 8 },
   { PUC_PORT_TYPE_COM, 0x18, 0x10, COM_FREQ * 8 },
   { PUC_PORT_TYPE_COM, 0x18, 0x18, COM_FREQ * 8 },
   },
   }
The structure is similar to others, except 'vendor=0x114f,dev=0x0028'.
But I don't know which ports to specify. After configuring and recompiling kernel for 
this card, when loading system gives message:
  puc0:  port 0x6400-0x64ff,0x6300-0x637f mem 0xe0002000-
  0xe00020ff,0xe0001000-0xe000107f irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
  sio2: configured irq 11 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
  sio2: type 16550A
  sio3: configured irq 11 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
  sio3: type 16550A
  sio4: configured irq 11 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
  sio4: type 16550A
  sio5: configured irq 11 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
  sio5: type 16550A
So system sees this card and adds com-ports ( sio2-sio5), but it's not possible to 
work with modem through these com-ports. They are very slow. There is an evident 
conflict with input/output ports.
 Best regards,
 Shevcov Aleksandr.

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Re: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

[Jonathan Arnold]

Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
/dev/ad0s1b 4971245920 379292%Interleaved
See:



for information on how to add more swap space.

I guess 32MB RAM is too little for MySQL, Apache and Postfix, huh?
It does seem like a tiny amount, given the big daemons you're running.
I'd definitely add more RAM.
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Re: Web Server not allowing external visitors

[Gav...]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| I would suggest using natd's divert capability, because I've had it
working
| for a while with no problems.  I'm not sure if what you're trying to do
will
| even work.
| Alter your natd_flags to something like
| "-f /etc/natd.conf -redired_port tcp 192.168.0.1:80 80"
| (this will direct anything that comes in on port 80 to 192.168.0.1 ... see
| the man page for natd for more details on the syntax)
|

Hmm, no good for the current set up, I'm not trying to redirect port 80 no
more, I just
want to have 'this' port 80 available. Web Server on FreeBSD router machine
now.
And DNS updater program is also on router machine.

| > // 192.168.0.2 is on ed0 card going to internal network
| > //192.168.2.1 is on ed2 card going to another network (eventually web
server
| > proper)
| >
| > At this point I'd like to mention something in my ifconfig readout.
| >
| > Now, ed0 ed2 lp0 ppp0 seem to me to be fine (and must be if internal
network
| > can browse internet etc)
| >
| > tun0 , although above suggests it is working fine , gives me an unusual
| > alias address. :-
| >
| > tun0: flags=8051(UP,POINTTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
| > inet 14x1xx.xxx.xxx --> 172.31.22.152 netmask 0xff00.
|
| I've seen this before.  A lot of ISPs are using private IPs for a lot of
| their routers and hop points.  If everything is configured properly, it
| works OK and doesn't cause problems (that I've seen) but ...
| Get your testers to try traceroutes to see how far traffic is getting.  I
had
| an ISP once that had an endless routing loop in one of their routers that
it
| took us a week to convince them wasn't our mistake.
| Also ... can the testers connect via IP or hostname?  Can they ping Ip or
| hostname?
|

I'll let you know when I get an answer.

| > Ok, I've masked my ISP assig ed IP address for now as it is
semi-permanent,
| > but why has it aliased with a Class C
| > internal IP address, when all my network is Class B 192.x.x.x addresses
,
| > can this be the cause of why external visitors can not access my
sites.???
| >
| > What other information do you need ???
|
| The results of ping and traceroute tests above would help narrow things
down.
|
| -- 
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Re: swap not being mounted (or so I think)

[Bob Collins]

At 09:06 PM 6/25/2003, you wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:55:36PM -0400, Bob Collins wrote:

> I am running 5.0 Release on an i386 Intel system. I have 256MB ram
> and in /etc/fstab swap is called out for 492MB. How can I tell if
> this is mounted and in use? Mount does not indicate swap (/da0s1b)
> is mounted.
Please wrap your lines at 70 characters so your emails can be easily
read.
Oops, sorry, I was using a web interface emailer. This should work now 
(Eudora).

swap partitions are not mounted, because they're not filesystems.  Use
swapinfo to check swap configuration.
Great, it looks fine. swapinfo was exactly what I needed.

> I ask, as I cannot use dump to backup my raid. My raid is
> /dev/vinum/raid and mounted at /raid. When I try to dump either
> /dev/vinum/raid or /raid, the system panics and halts. I am thinking
> the dump is bombing due to lack of swap space.
With 256MB of RAM, dump should not be touching swap.  It sounds like
you have some other problem that you need to investigate more fully.
Kris
You are correct. I do not know what the heck happened, but after triple 
checking fsck and a remount of filesystems, all is fine. I was able to 
perform a dump with no errors. Thanks.

Now, if I can just get restore to read the dumped tape I am getting an 
I/O error that it cannot read the tape, something about block size 
difference. I'll research that now.

Thank you for your help.



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Re: Cd Install Problems

[Lowell Gilbert]

Peter Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I pop in my installation cd and turn the comp, it
> spits out this:
> 
> CD Loader 1.01
> 
> Building the boot loader arguments
> Read Error: 0x01
> Could not find Primary Volume Descriptor
> 
> I'm trying to install the 5.1 release on a:
> Pentium 166
> 32mb Ram
> STB_Virge (video)
> 2.5gb EIDE
> Mitsumi 12x IDE

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tip on using mount_smbfs with the nsmb.conf config file

[Paul Hamilton]

Hi All,

After spending 1-2 fruitless hours trying to track down why I couldn't
automate my script to log into the local W2K server, I found that the
mount_smbfs man file is incorrect.  At least with FreeBSD 4.7 anyway.  Maybe
it just needs updating.

The default global location for the nsmb.conf file should be the /etc
directory, not the /usr/local/etc directory, as stated in the man file, and
a few web pages I googled.  ~.nsmbrc worked ok.

One for the archives.

Cheers,

Paul Hamilton


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Apache + PHP Issue

[bryan cassidy]

Hello, I just installed the mod_php4  + apache ports
and when I create a .php file in a directory say
called test it doesn't ever want to load the script it
wants me to save it on the computer.
http://bsdsys.dyndns.org/test/ when you click on
test.php it wants to "Save" it not "load" it. Whats
goin on here? 



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RE: Apache + PHP Issue

[Timms, Simon]

did you put 

AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps

in the httpd.conf file as it tells you to at the end of the php port
install?  Did you restart apache?

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Hello, I just installed the mod_php4  + apache ports
and when I create a .php file in a directory say
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wants me to save it on the computer.
http://bsdsys.dyndns.org/test/ when you click on
test.php it wants to "Save" it not "load" it. Whats
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Mailing List Problem

[bryan cassidy]

Hello, I am using Sylpheed 0.9.2 as my mail client and
when I try to send a e-mail to ANY of the FREEBSD
mailing lists using Sylpheed it will never send. I can
send e-mails to other mailing lists (non-freebsd ones)
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mailing lists is the main ones I care about. Hope
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Re: Online Content Management Tool - question

[admin]

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:06:43 +0700, Roger Merritt wrote
> At 07:33 AM 6/25/03, you wrote:
> 
> >other than zope - are there any good onlin content management tools out there
> >that allow people to update webpages and cgi code easily?
> 
> I'm just in the process of installing one called Pagetool 
> 
> (http://www.pagetool.org/) which looks good. Based on PHP. I also 
> liked the looks of MkDoc (http://www.mkdoc.com/), but couldn't get 
> my server to resolve the domain name I tried to set up (a DNS 
> problem, not, apparently, a problem with MkDoc). MkDoc is based on 
> Perl, I think.
> 
> Zope looked to me like overkill for my needs, and I don't really 
> want a blog site.
> 


Roger,

thanks for the heads up here.  what is a blog site?

- Noah



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5.1 install - Slow

[Keith Pitcher]

I'm doing a net install of 5.1 on an AMD K5 100, 16 megs ram. 2 gig HD,
put 128MB for swap. I know this is basically bare minimum, but it's only
going to be a modem gateway.

I started this around 2am, it is now bogged down on adding the perl
package. So far it has about 5.5 megs downloaded and it's just creaping.
It's been on this same package for 8 hours and the install is just
creeping on up on the install size. I doubt this is net congestion and
blame it on the slow machine.

My question is : should it take quite this long? I originally let it run
for 2 hours, thought it was locked up and restarted, see if it would
speed up. But this new install is slowing down at the same spot.

 
This is a new personal record for taking the longest to install.


Thanks,

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Re: Online Content Management Tool - question

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[admin wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 6/26/03 3:57 PM]

>> Zope looked to me like overkill for my needs, and I don't really
>> want a blog site.
>> 
> Roger,
> 
> thanks for the heads up here.  what is a blog site?

Zope can be as big or small as you need and is certainly in no way limited
to weblogs.

hth

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Re: Help: can't send email from my box.

[Chuck Swiger]

Supote Leelasupphakorn wrote:
[ ... ]
My question are
1. Is it possible for sending emails from the host that hasn't run "sendmail"
on it.
Sure, but you will have to use a program like pine or Mozilla, which lets you 
configure it to use a remote SMTP host.

2. It seem "mail" try to connect SMTP on localhost.mytestdomain.com.  If I want
"mail" connect to SMTP on the remote host (@mydomain.com's mail server),  or
say I want to change my "outgoing mail host". How can I do this ?
The command-line mail program expects sendmail to be working locally; I don't 
believe you can tell it not to connect to localhost.

To change your default mail host, look for the SMART_HOST directive in 
/etc/mail/freebsd.mc...

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'TOP' stats ?

[joe mcguckin]

CPU states:  1.6% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 98.1%idle
Mem: 60M Active, 502M Inact, 103M Wired, 21M Cache, 110M Buf, 299M Free


What are the CPU stats actually measuring? How is idle computed?

What's the difference between Inact and Free memory stats?

Thanks!

Joe

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Re: Two DNS servers with one IP address

[Alfonso Romero]

Thanks for your reply. The reason I wanted to have two DNS servers is
because I want to register several domains and don´t want to depend on an
external DNS service, but I found out the two DNS servers required by
Internic must be physically separated also, so I´ll have to ask someone else
to host my secondary DNS server, or stick with the available DNS options. I
just wondered if it could be possible to have two DNS servers inside a LAN,
behind a FreeBSD box with NAT.

Regards,

Alfonso Romero
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>
>
> Michal F. Hanula wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:52:42PM -0500, Alfonso Romero wrote:
> >
> >>Is it possible to have two DNS servers with only one public IP
> >>address? I have a FreeBSD gateway connected to the Internet with a DSL
> >>modem, using natd to connect the other PCs on my LAN, and was
> >>wondering if I could have two DNS servers to register domain names.
> >
> > You could do some magic using port redirection based on whatever you
> > want (source IP?). I can't even imagine the point of it, but it could be
> > done.
> > m&f
> >
>
> I don't know what the poster's reason is for having two DNS servers but
> have a look and bind 9. Do the opposite. Have one DNS server act as two.
> With views you can have the outside world see one thing and the inside
> world see another.  That's how I'm set up. One view is called external
> and when folks make a query to it it responds with what I've told it.
> But when an internal machine makes a request the DNS will respond
> differently. It all depends how you define the views.
> Way nifty and the systems are none the wiser. :)
>
> HTH
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Re: 'TOP' stats ?

[Adam]

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 13:17, joe mcguckin wrote:
> CPU states:  1.6% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 98.1%idle
> Mem: 60M Active, 502M Inact, 103M Wired, 21M Cache, 110M Buf, 299M Free
> 
> 
> What are the CPU stats actually measuring? How is idle computed?
> 
> What's the difference between Inact and Free memory stats?

Check the FAQ on the FreeBSD website. It's all explained there.

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ftpd doc

[David Bear]

in the ftpd man page, there's an option

'-h' disable printing host specific info

when I try using this to start ftpd I get an error that '-h' is not
recognized.

then scanning the args on the synopsis line of the man page, it has
[-46AdDEhmMoOrRSUvW]

h is there.  but it doesn't seem to work with the syntax

ftpd -D -h

using 

ftpd -Dh

I still get unknown option, illegal flag.

Is my ftp deamon wrong, or the man page?

using FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE

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ftpchroot issue

[David Bear]

I want to chroot the 'only' ftp user account that is permitted.  So,
I've put every account in ftpusers EXCEPT the one I want permitted.
So far that works, though the name suggests a reverse logic, ie
ftpusers implies users who MAY ftp in to me... But it wouldn't be the
first time my logic was reversed...

Anyway, I want to chroot the ftp user to a special file system so I
used the ftpchroot file as follows:

=
cat /etc/ftpchroot
=
#  by db
#  2003-06-25
softsys  /mnt/newdisk/ ./ghosted



This seems consistend with the syntax mentioned in the man page, yet
when I attempt to log in as softsys, I get the message 
===
Name (:): softsys
331 Password required for softsys.
Password:
550 Can't change root.
Login failed.
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any advice?

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Re: Slow machine - I need FreeBSD

[Joshua Oreman]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:02:06AM +0300 or thereabouts, Voicu Liviu wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:39:14 +0400
> "Alex Zivenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have one VERY SLOW MACHINE - 486SX 25 MHZ, hdd only 100Mb,
> > can I setup FreeBSD on this machine? I need a very old version
> > of FreeBSD, where I can get it? 
> 
> 4.8 also will do the job ( I believe so )

Correct. 5.x will also work.

But one wouldn't even think of setting up Windows on said machine... *cough*

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Re: 'TOP' stats ?

[Kliment Andreev]

> What are the CPU stats actually measuring? How is idle computed?
>
> What's the difference between Inact and Free memory stats?

Check out this sample chapter. It is what you need. And the whole book is
also excellent.

http://www.nostarch.com/AbsoluteBSD18.pdf


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Exim + popa3d question...

[Xpression]

Hi all:

I'm running Exim as MUA and popa3d as a POP3 server, I'm satisfied
with this POP3 server, but when many people send mails at the same time, the
server says that TOO MANY CONCURRENT SMTP CONNECTIONS, I've still running
popa3d in inetd mode, I think that problem could be here, but can I run
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Real time???

[Xpression]

Hi again...another problem is burning up mi brain, all my servers
have the time updated, the router too, now when I send a mail, send-time is
very different of the real-time, for example, now in my country 2:12 p.m. by
my workstation (my servers 2:10 / 2:10 p.m.)...any idea or somebody with the
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vmstat question

[Jason Lieurance]

Hello,

I have FreeBSD 4.7 on a P3 933mhz, 18 GB U320 HD, Adaptec 29160
controller, and 512 MB DDR ram. When I ran vmstat -w 3 the b under
processes shows a constant 10 forever. Is this a concern or is it nothing?
Our system is a DNS, web, and email server. Thanks.


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answer me plz

[dark matrix]

I want to build my own server on a p1 233 mhz 64M ram and 4gb hd
Wich FreeBSD version 4.8 - 5.0 - 5.1 do you recommend me?
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Re: bus error

[David S. Jackson]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:49:19PM -0700 Joshua Oreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > for xinit.core:
> > #0  0x2805826b in memset () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> > Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfe6bc.
> 
> As I feared. If you've got the developer mentality, forge ahead.
> If not, forget about it :-)
> 
> You have to recompile those programs with debugging flags.
> make configure the port, take a look at the software Makefile
> (the one in work/-/), and look for a
> line that starts with CFLAGS=. Add ` -g' (without the quotes, of
> course), to the end. Run make inside the software directory
> (/usr/ports///work/-/).
> Take the newly produced executable (it should be either in the
> directory you ran 'make' in, or one of the subdirectories) and
> run it under gdb (gdb myexecutable). Type `run' at the gdb prompt.
> When it crashes, type `bt'. Send us the output :-)

Turns out make doesn't finish operating.  pkg -r'ed another vim
package,

This time when I execute it:

/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6: invalid file
format.

Strangely, this happened while in a tty, not an x window.  (X
won't start, still.)



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Re: answer me plz

[Kenneth Culver]

What are you going to do with this server? I'd probably recommend 4.8 for
stability and speed. 5.1 isn't really as fast as it could be yet, mainly
because there is still work going on right now to make it faster/more
stable.

Ken

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, dark matrix wrote:

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> Wich FreeBSD version 4.8 - 5.0 - 5.1 do you recommend me?
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Mask IP:port with Domain Name

[John DeStefano]

In order to solve some IP/port resolution issues, I registered a domain at godaddy.com 
on the advice of a few people on this list.  Seems like a nice interface, decent 
service, and a great price.
My question is on what I assume to be IP masking.  When someone punches in my domain 
name to reach the web site running on FBSD, their browser's address field (well, 
actually it's the DNS doing it) instantly translates the domain name into my actual IP 
address and port number.  This is alarming for security reasons, as well as relatives 
who know nothing about technology asking inane questions about the disappearing web 
site name.
I have searched the handbook, archives, even apache docs, but I can't find any 
information regarding how to get this to happen on my FBSD (assuming I'm searching on 
the correct terms?).  Of course, godaddy.com offers a masking service for an 
additional fee, but then what was once a bargain wouldn't be much of a bargain any 
longer.
Thanks,
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Resolved: Re: bus error

[David S. Jackson]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:41:40PM -0400 David S. Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 03:49:19PM -0700 Joshua Oreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > for xinit.core:
> > > #0  0x2805826b in memset () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1
> > > Cannot access memory at address 0xbfbfe6bc.
> > 
> > As I feared. If you've got the developer mentality, forge ahead.
> > If not, forget about it :-)
> > 
> > You have to recompile those programs with debugging flags.
> > make configure the port, take a look at the software Makefile
> > (the one in work/-/), and look for a
> > line that starts with CFLAGS=. Add ` -g' (without the quotes, of
> > course), to the end. Run make inside the software directory
> > (/usr/ports///work/-/).
> > Take the newly produced executable (it should be either in the
> > directory you ran 'make' in, or one of the subdirectories) and
> > run it under gdb (gdb myexecutable). Type `run' at the gdb prompt.
> > When it crashes, type `bt'. Send us the output :-)
> 
> Turns out make doesn't finish operating.  pkg -r'ed another vim
> package,
> 
> This time when I execute it:
> 
> /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6: invalid file
> format.
> 
> Strangely, this happened while in a tty, not an x window.  (X
> won't start, still.)

I wound up removing the XFree86 package and rebuilding the port
from scratch.  I guess I could have reinstalled the package, too.
Anyway, that worked, so far.

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tree-based quotas for UFS/UFS2?

[Ryan Dooley]

Hey,

Has anybody done work on Tree-based quotas for UFS/UFS2?  As an
administrator I'm finding more and more reasons that such a thing would
be a good thing.

Cheers,
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Re: Mask IP:port with Domain Name

[Chuck Swiger]

John DeStefano wrote:
[ ...hitting return every 76 characters would be nice... ]
My question is on what I assume to be IP masking. When someone punches in my
domain name to reach the web site running on FBSD, their browser's address field
(well, actually it's the DNS doing it) instantly translates the domain name into
my actual IP address and port number. This is alarming for security reasons, as
well as relatives who know nothing about technology asking inane questions about
the disappearing web site name.
Um.  I consulted my magic eight ball, and it translated your question as:

] I'm trying to host a web site on a FreeBSD machine.  My registrar, godaddy,
] offers a redirect service which sends requests from "www.mydomain.com" to your
] FreeBSD machine, which possibly has a dynamic IP?
If so, have you set the hostname of the server via this section in your 
httpd.conf file:

# 127.0.0.1 is the TCP/IP local loop-back address, often named localhost. Your
# machine always knows itself by this address. If you use Apache strictly for
# local testing and development, you may use 127.0.0.1 as the server name.
#
ServerName www.mydomain.com
Also, are you running apache on port 80, or is that being blocked by your ISP?

-Chuck

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Re: Real time???

[Chuck Swiger]

Xpression wrote:
Hi again...another problem is burning up mi brain, all my servers
have the time updated, the router too, now when I send a mail, send-time is
very different of the real-time, for example, now in my country 2:12 p.m. by
my workstation (my servers 2:10 / 2:10 p.m.)...any idea or somebody with the
same trouble???
You want to enable the Network Time Protocol; see "man ntpd".  You can do so via 
/stand/sysinstall or enabling NTP in /etc/rc.conf:

4-sec% grep ntp /etc/defaults/rc.conf
ntpdate_enable="NO" # Run ntpdate to sync time on boot (or NO).
ntpdate_program="/usr/sbin/ntpdate" # path to ntpdate, if you want a 
different one.
ntpdate_flags="-b"  # Flags to ntpdate (if enabled).
xntpd_enable="NO"   # Run ntpd Network Time Protocol (or NO).
xntpd_program="/usr/sbin/ntpd"  # path to ntpd, if you want a different one.
xntpd_flags="-p /var/run/ntpd.pid"  # Flags to ntpd (if enabled).

-Chuck

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lucent winmodem

[ΤΣΟΥΚΑΛΟΣ ΜΙΧΑΗΛ]

Dear list,

If I understood well some articles (after a Google search), in order for 
FreeBSD 4.8 to recognise a lucent winmodem I have to do the following:

cd /usr/ports/comms/ltmdm
make; make install

edit /etc/boot/loader.conf
change/add ltmd_load="YES"

Is that all I have to do?
Which device name my modem will have?

many thanks in advance,
Mihalis.


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Wireless nic

[Josh Richesin]

I am going to buy a wireless nic for my laptop.  Are there any models that will 
automaticaly work when I put it in?  What are the best ones?

I found that the dlink-650+ is just not going to work.

Thanks,
Josh
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Re: Exim + popa3d question...

[K Anderson]

Xpression wrote:
Hi all:

I'm running Exim as MUA and popa3d as a POP3 server, I'm satisfied
with this POP3 server, but when many people send mails at the same time, the
server says that TOO MANY CONCURRENT SMTP CONNECTIONS, I've still running
popa3d in inetd mode, I think that problem could be here, but can I run
popa3d in standalone mode???
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According to a google search there is a standalone mode. Check the 
install instructions for it (That's what one of the searches turned up). 
May want to RTFM to see if there are any warnings about the problem you 
are having.

HTH

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Re: Mask IP:port with Domain Name

[John DeStefano]

Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ ...hitting return every 76 characters would be nice... ]
Interesting... I just double-checked my Yahoo! outbound message settings, and 
confirmed message width is fixed at 72 chars.  Never had a complaint before.
If you've any ideas PLMK.  Regardless, I apologize for the on-screen abuse.
 
>Um. I consulted my magic eight ball, and it translated your question as:
Was it that obscure?  If so, sorry again.

>] I'm trying to host a web site on a FreeBSD machine. My registrar, godaddy,
>] offers a redirect service which sends requests from "www.mydomain.com" to your
>] FreeBSD machine, which possibly has a dynamic IP?
Yes. I have registered a domain name at godaddy.com, and linked it to the dynamic IP 
address that my ISP has assigned to me.  On my internal network, behind a 
router, I have a FBSD machine, on which I'm running apache.  In order to make all
this work with a non-well-known web server port, I had to use godaddy.com's "Domain 
forwarding" feature to point to the IP:port combination. 

>If so, have you set the hostname of the server via this section in your 
>httpd.conf file:
>ServerName www.mydomain.com
Yes; my "ServerName" variable is set in exactly this fashion.

>Also, are you running apache on port 80, or is that being blocked by your ISP?
My ISP blocks and monitors well-known server ports such as 80 and 21.  I'm 
running well out of the well-known range at 10101.

>-Chuck
 
Thanks.
~John


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a little question

[dark matrix]

I know it is not directly related to FreeBSD but can you explain me the 
difference between SQL and PHP?

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Re: a little question

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: a little question


> I know it is not directly related to FreeBSD but can you explain me the
> difference between SQL and PHP?
>

That is a question that is like asking the difference between a dog and a
bird.  Both are animals, but that is all they have in common.

In the case of your question, they are both languages (or scripts).  SQL is
a query language for databases and PHP is a scripting language that is
primarily used for web pages.

Any more details beyond that are way out of context for this forum.

Tom Veldhouse

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Re: a little question

[Ugen]

Why is a raven like a writing desk?

dark matrix wrote:

I know it is not directly related to FreeBSD but can you explain me 
the difference between SQL and PHP?




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Re: Wireless nic

[Kliment Andreev]

>I am going to buy a wireless nic for my laptop.  Are there any models that
will automaticaly >work when I put it in?  What are the best ones?

No. You need to configure them first but it's not a big deal. It's very easy
and everything is
well documented (freebsd.org/handbook). I am using Cisco Aironet (ancontrol
instead
of wicontrol)

>I found that the dlink-650+ is just not going to work.

Yes, because they've changed the chipset in the card, but didn't change the
model. I have the
same problem and I sold the card on ebay recently.

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Re: ftpchroot issue

[Patrick O'Reilly]

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> Anyway, I want to chroot the ftp user to a special file system so I
> used the ftpchroot file as follows:
> 
> =
> cat /etc/ftpchroot
> =
> #  by db
> #  2003-06-25
> softsys  /mnt/newdisk/ ./ghosted
^ you don't want a space here!

Remove that space and you should be sorted...

Patrick.

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Re: Mask IP:port with Domain Name

[Chuck Swiger]

John DeStefano wrote:
Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ ...hitting return every 76 characters would be nice... ]
Interesting... I just double-checked my Yahoo! outbound message settings,
and confirmed message width is fixed at 72 chars.  Never had a complaint
before.  If you've any ideas PLMK.  Regardless, I apologize for the
on-screen abuse.
No harm done.  The best idea would be to not use a web-based mail client, but a 
real MUA like Pine, Netscape/Mozilla, etc.

Um. I consulted my magic eight ball, and it translated your question as:
>
Was it that obscure?  If so, sorry again.
Hmm...your question wasn't obscure, but there were a lot of relevant details 
that had to be inferred.

] I'm trying to host a web site on a FreeBSD machine. My registrar, godaddy,
] offers a redirect service which sends requests from "www.mydomain.com" to your
] FreeBSD machine, which possibly has a dynamic IP?
Yes. I have registered a domain name at godaddy.com, and linked it to the 
dynamic IP address that my ISP has assigned to me. On my internal network, 
behind a router, I have a FBSD machine, on which I'm running apache.
In order to make all this work with a non-well-known web server port, I had
to use godaddy.com's "Domain forwarding" feature to point to the IP:port 
combination.
If you subscribe to a dynamic DNS service, such as dyndns.org, you can link to 
that name rather than the raw IP address, and that name will show up in the 
browser as you've asked-- assuming you configure apache with that name, as well.

Also, are you running apache on port 80, or is that being blocked by your ISP?
>
My ISP blocks and monitors well-known server ports such as 80 and 21.  I'm
running well out of the well-known range at 10101.
There's no way to avoid the port number in the URL, then.  Consider switching to 
a provider that lets you host local services...

--
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ethernet

[Yunus E. Kose]

Hi,
I set up FreeBSD 5.1 . But i can't use ethernet card which is 
SURECOM lan EP-320X-R.
I think it uses realtek chipset because while using with linux it loads 8139too module.
#shell> with ifconfig command:
lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

#shell>with pciconf -l -v command (only about ethernet)


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:13:0: class=0x2 card=0x132010bd chip=0x08031516 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor= 'Myson Technology Inc'
device='803 series PCI Ethernet controller'
class=network
subclass ethernet

To set up my Ethernet card in /boot/defaults directory 
loader.conf file i did below changes.
in **NETWORKING DRIVERS
i changed
if_rl_load="NO" #Realtek 8129/8139 

as if_rl_load="YES" #Realtek 8129/8139 


Also

#shell> with dmesg command(only about ethernet)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc06a.
Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/if_rl.ko" at 0xc06a00a8.

module_register:module pci/if_rl already exists!
module pci/if_rl failed to register:17
module_register:module cardbus/if_rl already exists!
module cardbus/if_rl failed to register:17

module_register:module rl/miibus already exists!
module rl/miibus failed to register:17
.
pci0: at device 13.0(no driver attached)

Any idea why it doesn't work? 
Good works.
-yek


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software packages

[david]

Hi, I'm using freebsd 5.0 Jan 2003 series

Since all files are downloaded to the /usr/ports/distfiles,
I would like to know which software packages belong 
to what program. For example, I install mplayer and it
downloaded mplayer and other files for it. Is it possible 
to know which of these files are for mplayer. 

I appreciate any help

Thanks

David V
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Re: answer me plz

[Alfonso Romero]

Start with 4.8, I started with 4.7 on January this year and have been using
4.8 since then, mainly because I couldn't install 5.0 on my old PC's. But
4.8 is the best choice when it´s your first time with FreeBSD.

Alfonso Romero

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> I want to build my own server on a p1 233 mhz 64M ram and 4gb hd
> Wich FreeBSD version 4.8 - 5.0 - 5.1 do you recommend me?
> thank for your answer
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Linux Compatability and RPM

[Schimcek, Derrick]

when i try and install this arcserv rpm under linux compatablility mode it
gives me 0 bit files for all the asagent files.
i am running freebsd 5.0
and i have installed this same package on redhat linux 6.1 and 6.2 and it
works correctly
does anyone have an idea what i am doing wrong? 





SAMBA# ls
asagent.deb asagent.rpm uagent.deb  uagent.rpm
SAMBA# /compat/linux/bin/rpm -ivh asagent.rpm
Preparing...###
[100%]
   1:asagent###
[100%]
ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/bin/asagent' to `/usr/CYEagent/asagent':
File exists
ln: `/usr/CYEagent/asagent': File exists
chown: getting attributes of `/usr/bin/asagent': No such file or directory
chgrp: getting attributes of `/usr/bin/asagent': No such file or directory
sed: /usr/CYEagent/nls/asagent.C: No such file or directory
sed: /usr/CYEagent/nls/asagent.de: No such file or directory
sed: /usr/CYEagent/nls/asagent.fr: No such file or directory
sed: /usr/CYEagent/nls/asagent.ja_euc: No such file or directory
sed: /usr/CYEagent/nls/asagent.ja_sjis: No such file or directory
SAMBA#

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installing mysql323-server 4.6 freebsd

[John Larson]

I am using freebsd 4.6 on a pc that is not connected to the internet and will never be 
connected to the internet. . I am trying to install mysql323-server as the first step 
in creating a apache web server. I was able to find 3.23.49.tar.gz on a site but when 
I try to install it by placing it in usr/ports/distfiles it say that it needs libtool 
1.3.4_3.tar.gz. I cannot find it any where. this is very frustrating to me. I am not a 
complete newbie but I am at a loss as to how to accomplish what I want to do.
John Larson


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Re: software packages

[Matthew Seaman]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 04:34:33PM -0400, david wrote:
> Hi, I'm using freebsd 5.0 Jan 2003 series
> 
> Since all files are downloaded to the /usr/ports/distfiles,
> I would like to know which software packages belong 
> to what program. For example, I install mplayer and it
> downloaded mplayer and other files for it. Is it possible 
> to know which of these files are for mplayer. 

You can see what source code tarballs and other distfiles would be
downloaded for each port by changing to the port directory and running
'make -V DISTFILES':

/usr/ports:% cd multimedia/mplayer
...ports/multimedia/mplayer:% make -V DISTFILES
MPlayer-0.90.tar.bz2

Doing the reverse --- working out which port caused the distfile to be
downloaded is a little trickier.  Several ports may share a common
distfile -- generally the method is to look at the list of distfiles
you have and look at the list of ports you've installed and guess
which belongs to what.  Then use that make command line to confirm
your supposition.

Also if you've been updating your ports tree and your ports you can
find that you have several versions of a distfile hanging around your
drive.  Generally, only the latest one will be owned by a particular
port.  Check out portsclean(1) from the sysutils/portupgrade port for
a handy way to clean out old distfiles.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Memory errors after install

[jbaty]

Hi,

I have a DELL 2450 which was running Linux for a year or so without any
noticable issues. Today I installed FreeBSD 4.8 RELEASE on it and am seeing
the following error pretty regularly...

/kernel: aac0: **Monitor** NMI ISR: NMI_MEMORY_CONTROLLER_ERROR

I'm not sure what other information to send along, so if anyone has any ideas
on what I can do to troubleshoot this I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

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Burning audio cd with burncd command

[david]

Hello, I'm using freebsd 5.0 Jan 2003 series

I read the freebsd handbook on mp3 and making
audio cd's. First I use the mpg123 command to
convert the mp3's to wavs in 16 bit 44.1k stereo,
then I use the sox utility to remove the headers 
that produces the pop click sound at the begining 
of each track. Then I burn the cd using burncd.

I still get the pop click sound when I play the audio cd.
Is there a switch missing in the command syntax
I'm using?

mpg123 -w - anysong.mp3 > newsong.wav

sox -t  wav -r 44100 -s -w -c 2 newsong.wav new-song.wav

burncd -f /dev/acd1c -s 8 audio *.wav fixate

If you had a similar situation, let me know how you fix
the problem. Any suggestions is helpful

Thanks



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Can anyone tell me why this bpf code doesn't work with FreeBSD...

[Bill/Carolyn Pechter]

I'm trying to get VAX emulation running on FreeBSD using simh from
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/

The code has hooks for NetBSD and OpenBSD and Linux (uses libpcap on *BSD).

The code from the simh v3.0 simulator is as follows:

#if defined (__NetBSD__) || defined(__OpenBSD__)
 dev->handle = (void*) pcap_open_live(savname, bufsz, ETH_PROMISC, -1, errbuf);
#endif /* (__NetBSD__) || defined(__OpenBSD__) */

What's needed to get this to work on FreeBSD.  It appears in it's
default config to be unable to open the ethernet, even though it sees fxp0.

If I change the -1 to 1000 (picked this idea up from the tcpdump code
in src/contrib/tcpdump) it appears to open -- but nothing is passed.
(I used tcpdump to test if the VAX packets were getting out).

Any suggestions -- please?

I'm really looking forward to accessing the pseudo Vax over telnet... 

Bill Pechter
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Motherboard???

[James Moran]

Anyone having any problems with the Asus P4s8x-x sis648???
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sympatico and freebsd

[dark matrix]

is there a way to get my sympatico modem working on my freebsd system?

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keyboard probs

[K G]

Hello, i recently downloaded and installed freebsd and the only problem i 
get is with the keyboard.

it works fine when i am typing my username, but it will not allow me to 
enter anything for a password, even the root password, nothing apears on 
screen just a while cursor block.

i am running a toshiba laptop and everything else is working fine.

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Re: newbie: weekly tape backup advice

[admin]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:36:01 -0700, Ryan Merrick wrote
> admin wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I need some help setting up a tape backup system.  I have two FreeBSD machines
> > and on external SCSI Onstream ADR50.  Got any clues how I can start a weekly
> > back up plan here? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Noah
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> Take a look at afbackup in the ports at #/usr/ports/misc/afbackup .

okay this proggie is exactly what I need - do you have any clue how to figure
out the tape drive's device  blocksize?

- Noah

> 
> Look at Storagemountain.com and look for articles by Curtis Preston.
> 
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Re: Online Content Management Tool - question

[Roger Merritt]

At 06:54 PM 6/26/03, you wrote:
[admin wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 6/26/03 3:57 PM]

>> Zope looked to me like overkill for my needs, and I don't really
>> want a blog site.
>>
> Roger,
>
> thanks for the heads up here.  what is a blog site?
Zope can be as big or small as you need and is certainly in no way limited
to weblogs.
Well, thanks for telling me. If I have time I'll take another look at it, 
but I was frankly daunted by their website. I got the impression that zope 
was primarily designed for weblogs and outside news feeds, and it seems to 
be *big*. The intranet I'm trying to set up will have pretty static 
content, but I want to use a content management system to make it easier 
for the teachers to update their course outlines and homework assignments.

Incidentally, I wanted to emphasize that my problem (mentioned earlier) 
with MkDoc was due to my own lack of skills. I think if I'd had more time 
to play with my /etc/hosts file and my http.conf I could have had it 
working. I don't think there's any problem with MkDoc, and it looks really 
good. I liked their default templates, and they claim to strongly implement 
the W3C standards for accessibility.

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laptop install problem - usb cd drive

[William O'Higgins]

The Challenge:

An old laptop, with no OS that can only boot from a floppy.  I want to
install FreeBSD.

I have a USB CDROM, but I cannot make it bootable at the BIOS level.

I have a network card (PCMCIA) but no knowledge of how to get drivers
for it on a FreeBSD install floppy.

I'm pretty sure I'll have to either install entirely from floppies (not
worth the time) or from the CDROM or network, but I don't know how to
make those devices work from a blank hd and a floppy.

Any pointers?  Thanks.
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Re: sympatico and freebsd

[Adam]

On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 19:13, dark matrix wrote:
> is there a way to get my sympatico modem working on my freebsd system?

http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=40fec50a14f955439caeb7847a51902f&threadid=9265

I'd avoid using the LQR setting though. It seems be broken.

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Re: keyboard probs

[Warren Block]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, K G wrote:

> Hello, i recently downloaded and installed freebsd and the only problem i
> get is with the keyboard.
>
> it works fine when i am typing my username, but it will not allow me to
> enter anything for a password, even the root password, nothing apears on
> screen just a while cursor block.

If your password appeared, someone watching over your shoulder would
know it.  Just type the password and press Enter without seeing it.

> i am running a toshiba laptop and everything else is working fine.

The keyboard works fine, too, or you wouldn't be able to type your
username.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Online Content Management Tool - question

[george donnelly]

[Roger Merritt wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 6/27/03 12:06 AM]

>> 
>> Zope can be as big or small as you need and is certainly in no way limited
>> to weblogs.
> 
> Well, thanks for telling me. If I have time I'll take another look at it,
> but I was frankly daunted by their website.

zope.org is really a mess. a new site is being worked on.

> I got the impression that zope
> was primarily designed for weblogs and outside news feeds, and it seems to
> be *big*. 

zope is an application server, so you can do most anything you like.

> The intranet I'm trying to set up will have pretty static
> content, but I want to use a content management system to make it easier
> for the teachers to update their course outlines and homework assignments.

Zope +CMF +plone (plone.org) can help you here.

<-->
george donnelly - http://www.zettai.net/ - "Quality Zope Hosting"
Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
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Re: Online Content Management Tool - question

[Tim Aslat]

In the immortal words of "admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> other than zope - are there any good onlin content management tools
> out there that allow people to update webpages and cgi code easily?

You might want to try out phpwebthings
http://www.phpdbform.com

Modular, lots of features, themeable, and not too hard to work with.  
has just become version 1.0

Cheers

Tim


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Obvious 'Doh!'? find vs. diff....

[Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
#find /  -name "GENERIC" -print
/usr/src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
/usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
/usr/src/sys/pc98/conf/GENERIC
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
#diff /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
diff: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/GENERIC: No such file or directory

???


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Obvious 'Doh!'? find vs. diff....

[Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:56]
#find /  -name "GENERIC" -print
/usr/src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
/usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
/usr/src/sys/pc98/conf/GENERIC
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
#diff /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
diff: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/GENERIC: No such file or directory

???


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libpcap install problem.

[David Markle]

I am having a problem installing libpcap.  Have a fresh 5.0-CURRENT
installed, ran cvsup and am all up to date with the tree.  enter the
directory /usr/src/contrib/libpcap and run ./configure 

Configure runs fine, but when I run make, I get the following :

# make
gcc -O2 -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c ./pcap-bpf.c
pcap-bpf.c: In function `pcap_open_live':
pcap-bpf.c:207: storage size of `bdl' isn't known
pcap-bpf.c:334: `BIOCGDLTLIST' undeclared (first use in this function)
pcap-bpf.c:334: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
pcap-bpf.c:334: for each function it appears in.)
pcap-bpf.c: In function `pcap_set_datalink':
pcap-bpf.c:487: `BIOCSDLT' undeclared (first use in this function)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/contrib/libpcap.

Can someone explain what is going wrong here   Does this indicate I have
to install bpf first 

Much thanks in advance.

David

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Re: Obvious 'Doh!'? find vs. diff....

[Joshua Oreman]

Easy on the send button!

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:03:41PM -0500 or thereabouts, Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. 
wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
> #find /  -name "GENERIC" -print
> /usr/src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC
> /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
> /usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
> /usr/src/sys/pc98/conf/GENERIC
> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
> #diff /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
> diff: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/GENERIC: No such file or directory

/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC is probably a directory. The `find' command you want
is:
#find /usr/src /usr/obj -name GENERIC -type f -print

`-type f' restricts it to files.

-- Josh

> 
> ???
> 
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Re: mozilla is started instead of genuine netscape while opening anew window

[parv]

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote parv
thusly...
>
> Problem does not happen when the genuine netscape is not running.
> In that case, it is started anew.  In addition, mozilla doesn't
> start if its is not already running.
> 
> Say, i have /both/ mozilla & netscape running.  If i want to open
> a new window of the genuine netscape, thru netscape-wrapper,
> a mozilla window is opened instead of navigator's.

Since nobody has replied, allow me to share the /workaround/, not a
real solution to the problem, which calls "netscape", from
netscape-wrapper port, only when mozilla is not

An optional URI is the only argument it takes/uses on the command
line.  It assumes that linux-netscape-navigator-4.8 port has been
installed.

  #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w

  use strict;

  #  regex to identify desired processes in ps output
  my $moz =
{ 're' => qr/^ [^\s]+ \b mozilla-bin \b/x
, 'exists' => 0
};
  my $netscape =
{ 're' => qr/^ [^\s]+ \b navigator-linux-\d+\.\d+\.bin \b/x
, 'exists' => 0
};

  exec_netscape( $moz , $netscape );

  sub exec_netscape
  { my ($moz , $netscape) = @_;

#  "⊂" usage is INTENTIONAL
&find_proc;

my @ex;
push @ex
  , $moz->{'exists'} ? 'navigator-linux-4.8' : 'netscape'
  ;

if ($netscape->{'exists'})
{ push @ex
, qw{ -irix-session-management -remote }
, ( !scalar @ARGV
? qw{ 'xfeDoCommand(openBrowser)' }
: qw{ 'openURL( }
  . +(shift @ARGV)
  . " , new-window)'"
  )
;
}

system "@ex &"
  and die "@ex failed: $? $!\n";
  }

  sub find_proc
  { my @proc = qx/ps -axww/ or die "'ps -axww'  failed: $!\n";
chomp @proc;

foreach my $h (@_)
{ next if $h->{'exists'};

  foreach my $p (@proc)
  { last if $h->{'exists'};

++$h->{'exists'}
  if (split ' ' , $p , 5 )[-1] =~ m/ $h->{'re'} /x;
  }
}
  }
  __END__


Happy programming!


  - Parv

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Re: Obvious 'Doh!'? find vs. diff....

[Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.]

From: "Joshua Oreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Obvious 'Doh!'? find vs. diff


> Easy on the send button!

Hmm, unique situation with my SMTP, didn't
*say* it had left... AAMOF, it was still in the
'inbox' really do need to rid myself of this
borken M$ mailer
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 09:03:41PM -0500 or thereabouts, Kevin
Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
> > #find /  -name "GENERIC" -print
> > /usr/src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC
> > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
> > /usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
> > /usr/src/sys/pc98/conf/GENERIC
> > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/src] [19:57]
> > #diff /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC /usr/src/sys/i386/GENERIC
> > diff: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/GENERIC: No such file or
directory
>
> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC is probably a directory.
> The `find' command you want is:
> #find /usr/src /usr/obj -name GENERIC -type f -print
>
> `-type f' restricts it to files.
>
> -- Josh

/me slaps forehead!

Thx, KDK


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Re: libpcap install problem.

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Jun 26), David Markle said:
> I am having a problem installing libpcap.  Have a fresh 5.0-CURRENT
> installed, ran cvsup and am all up to date with the tree.  enter the
> directory /usr/src/contrib/libpcap and run ./configure 

/usr/src/contrib is for raw 3rd-party sources.  You shouldn't build
anything in there.  Cd into /usr/src/lib/libpcap instead and run "make
obj ; make ; make install".
 
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kdm on bootup

[Chris]

Hiya -

What file might I modify to enable kdm to start on bootup? And what might 
that line look like.

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Re: Apache + PHP Issue

[Sunil Sunder Raj]

Hi,
Did you add these lines in the httpd.conf file.
   
 AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 .php4
 AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps .php3s .php4s
   
Regards
SSR

From: bryan cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Apache + PHP Issue
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 08:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
Hello, I just installed the mod_php4  + apache ports
and when I create a .php file in a directory say
called test it doesn't ever want to load the script it
wants me to save it on the computer.
http://bsdsys.dyndns.org/test/ when you click on
test.php it wants to "Save" it not "load" it. Whats
goin on here?


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freebsd + win98 in separate disks

[Ramunas M.]

hello,
 
maybe someone had this problem and can help me.
 
I installed freebsd 5.0 with boot manager in to ad1. ad1 is slave hdd. Ad0
is master hdd (with win98). When I rebooted freebsd, win98 booted, because
of ad0 is a first boot device, from which pc boots. In bios settings I
changed boot order, ad1 with freebsd became first boot hdd. So pc starts to
boot from ad1, boot manager shows menu: 
F1 Freebsd
F2 Freebsd
F5 Drive 1
 
If I choose F5 (I want to load win98), and then boot manager shows: "Error
loading operating system. Setup cannot continue." 
If I choose F1 - boots freebsd (it is ok if I want to load freebsd).
 
Maybe is the only one way: every time I need to change hdd boot order from
pc bios? :((
 
 
Ramunas
 
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Re: Two DNS servers with one IP address

[Michael W. Oliver]

+--- On Thursday, June 26, 2003 13:20,
| Alfonso Romero proclaimed:
|
| Thanks for your reply. The reason I wanted to have two DNS servers is
| because I want to register several domains and don´t want to depend on an
| external DNS service, but I found out the two DNS servers required by
| Internic must be physically separated also, so I´ll have to ask someone
| else to host my secondary DNS server, or stick with the available DNS
| options. I just wondered if it could be possible to have two DNS servers
| inside a LAN, behind a FreeBSD box with NAT.
|
| Regards,
|
| Alfonso Romero

Alfonso,

If you are thinking of running named on serverA and serverB (both in RFC1918 
space), and have them both use one globally routable IP address, there is a 
way.  I did this for a while before getting external secondary services.  
Here is what I did:

1) go to http://www.bsdshell.net/hut_fvrrpd.html and read about the HUT 
project.  Very interesting.

2) cd /usr/ports/net/freevrrpd && make install distclean

3) read the configuration stuff for vrrpd (if you are like me, read twice), 
and configure the daemon on both servers.

Now, say serverA is 192.168.0.51, and serverB is 192.168.0.52, and your VRRP 
address will be 192.168.0.50.  Just make sure that your VRRP configuration 
is correct, but that isn't all.  When the VIP moves from the primary 
machine to the backup machine, named won't give a crap.  It won't listen on 
the new IP alias (in my case anyway, YMMV).  I created a script that 
triggers on a VRRP state change that would kill named and then restart it 
once the new IP alias was installed (my script also installed a (V)IPv6 
alias upon master election... not sure if that is important to you).  Of 
course, make sure that natd on your gateway is forwarding DNS stuff to 
192.168.0.50.

I work with cisco IOS constantly, and HSRP is easy to take for granted.  It 
is beyond cool to be able to do the same thing with the servers themselves.

Not saying that this is the best solution, but it worked for me.

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Re: Two DNS servers with one IP address

[Jez Hancock]

On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 12:20:30PM -0500, Alfonso Romero wrote:
> Thanks for your reply. The reason I wanted to have two DNS servers is
> because I want to register several domains and don?t want to depend on an
> external DNS service, but I found out the two DNS servers required by
> Internic must be physically separated also, so I?ll have to ask someone else
> to host my secondary DNS server, or stick with the available DNS options. I
> just wondered if it could be possible to have two DNS servers inside a LAN,
> behind a FreeBSD box with NAT.
This item on devshed is relevant to this thread:
http://forums.devshed.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50100

Can anyone confirm that it's no longer a requisite to provide 2
distinct DNS servers for a domain you register?  I say no longer
because as I understand it there was a time when 2 distinct nameservers
were required...

Also, in the case an admin has only one auth nameserver for a domain but
a registrar _requires_ you list two, what is the best strategy for
listing the second nameserver? Is there any way to avoid using a third
party DNS provider as your secondary nameserver (providing some sort of
dummy listing)?

As mentioned above in thread there are no doubt many cases where all services are
hosted on one single IP address and so if the server goes down, losing
DNS is the least of your worries.  In this case wouldn't having a second
nameserver listed actually be a bad thing (since queries to that second NS waste
some (ok, minimal, but still some) bandwidth)?

Cheers,
Jez
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Re: Online Content Management Tool - question

[Jez Hancock]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 07:06:45AM +0700, Roger Merritt wrote:
> Well, thanks for telling me. If I have time I'll take another look at it, 
> but I was frankly daunted by their website. I got the impression that zope 
> was primarily designed for weblogs and outside news feeds, and it seems to 
> be *big*. The intranet I'm trying to set up will have pretty static 
> content, but I want to use a content management system to make it easier 
> for the teachers to update their course outlines and homework assignments.
Quite coincidentally I came across something called 'blackboard' whilst
searching for a link to a CMS I had in mind for this thread.  You can
see it here:

http://products.blackboard.com/

Could be overkill, but it's aimed at learning systems - worth investigating 
perhaps.

Good luck,
Jez
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