Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-16 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 14:50, patrick wrote:
> I had the same symptones with a Supermicro 5014C-T (has P8SCi board)
>
> I 'fixed' this by adding autoboot_delay="-1" in /boot/loader.conf.
>
> since then it boots normaly

I have tried this but it doesn't fix it here :(

I've emailed Supermicro but I dunno how long it will take them to get back to 
me.

I'm also not really sure how this can be debugged since the computer locks up 
solid :(

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-14 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Saturday 14 April 2007 18:55, Andrei Kolu wrote:
> Press any key to gain boot prompt while system is loading- look at loader
> messages.
> From appeared boot prompt type: boot -s

I was under the impression that if you set the autoboot delay to 0 (or -1) 
then you won't be able to get to the loader prompt at all.

I must admit I haven't tested it though.
> > phase of the moon during construction or the diodes?! :)
>
> I got almost identical board P8SCi and have no problems running FreeBSD
> 6.1, 6.2, 7-CURRENT. Maybe you should look at supermicro site and upgrade
> bios. I think this is ACPI problem. You can disable ACPI temporarily at the
> boot loader prompt by issueing "unset acpi_load" if you are having problems
> booting an ACPI enabled machine.

The loader doesn't use ACPI so while it may be related to ACPI the command you 
suggest won't have an effect.

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-14 Thread Andrei Kolu
On Saturday 14 April 2007 10:36, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Friday 13 April 2007 16:17, patrick wrote:
> > > Unfortunately that makes it impossible to interrupt the loader to go
> > > into single user mode (or whatever).
> >
> > that is depending on the situation you are in. there are more ways to get
> > in 'other boot modes' then using the bootloader on the disk.
>
> Hmm.. How can you get to (say) single user mode, or load an old kernel?
> They're the really critical things I use the loader for (usually in
> desperate circumstances :)
>
Press any key to gain boot prompt while system is loading- look at loader 
messages.
From appeared boot prompt type: boot -s

Or if you want other kernel:
#unload kernel
#load kernel.old
#boot

> > > I wonder if it is a race of some sort with the BIOS doing a periodic
> > > task and hence reducing the delay makes it work most of the time.
> >
> > Also note I have also exactly the same system (second one) which has no
> > problems at all.
>
> Yeah it seems to affect our systems unevenly too, although they are
> putatively identical..
>
> > I never had the time to pull them apart to find out what the diff is
> > which causing this issue.
>
> phase of the moon during construction or the diodes?! :)
I got almost identical board P8SCi and have no problems running FreeBSD 6.1, 
6.2, 7-CURRENT. Maybe you should look at supermicro site and upgrade bios. I 
think this is ACPI problem. You can disable ACPI temporarily at the boot 
loader prompt by issueing "unset acpi_load" if you are having problems 
booting an ACPI enabled machine. 
 
If you want to disable ACPI simply add hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" 
to /boot/device.hints.
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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-14 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 16:17, patrick wrote:
> > Unfortunately that makes it impossible to interrupt the loader to go into
> > single user mode (or whatever).
>
> that is depending on the situation you are in. there are more ways to get
> in 'other boot modes' then using the bootloader on the disk.

Hmm.. How can you get to (say) single user mode, or load an old kernel?
They're the really critical things I use the loader for (usually in desperate 
circumstances :)

> > I wonder if it is a race of some sort with the BIOS doing a periodic task
> > and hence reducing the delay makes it work most of the time.
>
> Also note I have also exactly the same system (second one) which has no
> problems at all.

Yeah it seems to affect our systems unevenly too, although they are putatively 
identical..

> I never had the time to pull them apart to find out what the diff is which
> causing this issue.

phase of the moon during construction or the diodes?! :)

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 14:50, patrick wrote:
> I had the same symptones with a Supermicro 5014C-T (has P8SCi board)
>
> I 'fixed' this by adding autoboot_delay="-1" in /boot/loader.conf.
>
> since then it boots normaly

Unfortunately that makes it impossible to interrupt the loader to go into 
single user mode (or whatever).

I wonder if it is a race of some sort with the BIOS doing a periodic task and 
hence reducing the delay makes it work most of the time.

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 12:37, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> Also, if I break into the loader prompt in time I can then do things as
> normal.. very odd!
>
> Does anyone know of a proper fix for it? This work around is very kludgy :(

I think this is the same as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=93762

Unfortunately I can't see a solution :(

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6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor
I am seeing the loader hang during a normal boot (but not when booting from 
the install CD).

I can work around it by shortening the boot delay to around 1 second. If it is 
any longer the count time timer stops and is is unresponsive to any input 
except the reset switch.

Also, if I break into the loader prompt in time I can then do things as 
normal.. very odd!

Does anyone know of a proper fix for it? This work around is very kludgy :(

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