Re: Hypervisor ( was Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? )

2012-06-29 Thread Pete French
> Yes, virtualbox is not that bad. However, to get some really nice
> features, you need the non-free version. Also, we can use citrix's
> xenserver's management tool to manage non-citrix xen clusters, because
> the API is same. With that we get a management tool for our clusters,
> which is really nice.

OK, makes sennse.

> Also I didn't know that virtualbox is capable of building clusters of
> nodes and bouncing VMs among nodes to balance load, and capable of
> doing such things, i might be lacking a bit here, sorry.

I belive if you have an iscsi storage backend for a runnign node it
can be moved transparently to another physsical hardware node
without stopping running, but I havent tried it myself I ahve to admit.

cheers,

-pete.
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Re: Hypervisor ( was Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? )

2012-06-29 Thread Gergely CZUCZY
On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:55:20 +0100
Pete French  wrote:

> >  - Lack of proper support for a decent hypervisor for
> > virtualisation. We can't make a hypervisor out of freebsd, if there
> > are no such virtualisations available like XEN, kvm or something
> > similar, that just works out of the box.
> 
> What do you need that VirtualBox doesn't provide ? I used to bemoan
> the lack of a hypervisor too, but vince VBox arrived in FreeBSD I
> have had no complaints. I use it to run Windows instances both as
> desktop clients and also servers, and it works beautifully. Combined
> with a ZVOL underneath (and hence all the delights of ZFS snapshots)
> it';s a great solution.
Yes, virtualbox is not that bad. However, to get some really nice
features, you need the non-free version. Also, we can use citrix's
xenserver's management tool to manage non-citrix xen clusters, because
the API is same. With that we get a management tool for our clusters,
which is really nice.

Also I didn't know that virtualbox is capable of building clusters of
nodes and bouncing VMs among nodes to balance load, and capable of
doing such things, i might be lacking a bit here, sorry.

> 
> -pete.
> 

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Hypervisor ( was Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD ? )

2012-06-29 Thread Pete French
>  - Lack of proper support for a decent hypervisor for virtualisation.
>We can't make a hypervisor out of freebsd, if there are no such
>virtualisations available like XEN, kvm or something similar, that
>just works out of the box.

What do you need that VirtualBox doesn't provide ? I used to bemoan the
lack of a hypervisor too, but vince VBox arrived in FreeBSD I have had
no complaints. I use it to run Windows instances both as desktop
clients and also servers, and it works beautifully. Combined with
a ZVOL underneath (and hence all the delights of ZFS snapshots) it';s
a great solution.

-pete.

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