RE: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Jay
I thought that as well.  My machine is using a Tyan motherbaord with the Intel
6300SEB and I thought that was a reasnably conservative choice of motherboard.

I don't know if this is a hint not to use SATA/IDE controllers any more but
there are lots of occasions when it is more than enough power to be going on
with.

What is annoying is that there doesn't seem to be enough in the way of problem
reports to say this is not supported so we know we are on to a loosing streak
and need to find an alternate type of hardware.

Does anyone know if the "Adaptec AIC-8110 SATA I" controller, which Tyan
offer, as an add on module is supported.  The release notes which I have
checked do not mention this number.  But hten this is probably a part number
and not the chip number.

Thanks.



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias
> Buelow
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:49 PM
> To: Tony Byrne
> Cc: Alan Jay; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350
> with FreeBSD 5.4
> 
> Tony Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >ICH5 must be common in the field along with SATA disks from Western
> >Digital. I would have believed faulty hardware to be the cause, but I
> >have *three* machines that are capable of generating DMA TIMEOUTs
> >while reading or writing SATA disks.
> 
> In my case here, it's ICH6 and Seagate. Normally this is a good
> combination that should work flawlessly... I mean, you can't get
> more conservative than an Intel chipset and a Seagate disk.
> 
> mkb.

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RE: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (Adaptec AIC-8110 Compatibility maybe?)

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Jay
Totally agree - I have 2 idential machines that have the same problem
And have tried alternate hard disks all of which exhibit the same 
Problem.  

I would agree with you that the ICH5 must be common and the Tyan S3530 
(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigeri7320r_spec.html ) with the Intel
6300SEB which I would have thought (as you say) was very common.

I did notice that Tyan offer the Adaptec AIC-8110 SATA I controller as an add
on module and I wondered if that might be supported but it doesn't seem by
that number to be on the release list (any thoughts).

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:29 AM
> To: Alan Jay
> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350
> with FreeBSD 5.4
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
> AJ> There have been a number of comments and queries about ATA problems and
> SATA
> AJ> problems with 5.4 but no views as to if this is a real problem.
> 
> I have to agree. I've had nothing but trouble with various Intel
> boards with Intel ICH5 controllers and SATA hard disks under FreeBSD
> and yet the problem either doesn't seem to be widespread and isn't
> recognized by the community in general. I find that strange since the
> ICH5 must be common in the field along with SATA disks from Western
> Digital. I would have believed faulty hardware to be the cause, but I
> have *three* machines that are capable of generating DMA TIMEOUTs
> while reading or writing SATA disks.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tony.
> 
> --
> Tony Byrne
> 


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Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4

2005-07-01 Thread Matthias Buelow
Tony Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>ICH5 must be common in the field along with SATA disks from Western
>Digital. I would have believed faulty hardware to be the cause, but I
>have *three* machines that are capable of generating DMA TIMEOUTs
>while reading or writing SATA disks.

In my case here, it's ICH6 and Seagate. Normally this is a good
combination that should work flawlessly... I mean, you can't get
more conservative than an Intel chipset and a Seagate disk.

mkb.
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Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4

2005-07-01 Thread Tony Byrne
Hello Alan,

AJ> There have been a number of comments and queries about ATA problems and SATA
AJ> problems with 5.4 but no views as to if this is a real problem.

I have to agree. I've had nothing but trouble with various Intel
boards with Intel ICH5 controllers and SATA hard disks under FreeBSD
and yet the problem either doesn't seem to be widespread and isn't
recognized by the community in general. I find that strange since the
ICH5 must be common in the field along with SATA disks from Western
Digital. I would have believed faulty hardware to be the cause, but I
have *three* machines that are capable of generating DMA TIMEOUTs
while reading or writing SATA disks.

Regards,

Tony.

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SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Jay
 

I suppose the question is was there a problem with the Tyan S5350 motherboard
and its ATA controller - I know that two identical motherboards with different
hard disks exhibit the same problem.  And if so why is it that there has been
little on these lists about problems with the chipset which is on this
motherboard (a fairly common one I believe from Intel).

 

Although the problem went away the machines filesystem seems to have got
corrupted so maybe all was not fixed after all.

 

There have been a number of comments and queries about ATA problems and SATA
problems with 5.4 but no views as to if this is a real problem.

 

Any insights would be gratefully received.

 

One aside when trying to upgrade using CVSUP does the tag need to be RELENG_5
or RELENG_5_4?

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