Re: [Freedos-user] Apropos and Whatis

2017-06-13 Thread Simon van Meygaarden
Greetings, Folks.

Ralf > First time I hear about those programs, and they are not
something elementary to (Free)DOS,
Jiri > All this is essentially for people who already know what's
there or what should be there, not really for novices.

I respectfully disagree. -smile-

The first thing a new user will see when FreeDOS boots, is the message
"Type HELP to get support on commands and navigation". When one types
HELP, the first line of the Main Help page says "For information on
using Help, press F1...". When F1 is pressed, the How to use the
FreeDOS Help page is displayed, and this pages mentions WHATIS and
APROPOS.

So after learning the HELP command, the next two commands a new user
will learn are WHATIS and APROPOS. And they don't work! It gets even
worse: the same Help page also mentions FASTHELP, FDHELP, and
FSUITE04. And these don't work either!

Now for an experienced user this is not a big issue, I agree, but for
a new user this might just be enough to quit and never look a FreeDOS
again. And that would be a shame.

To be sure, I consider myself an experienced user, but when I dir into
FDOS\BIN and see those 316 different entries, there's a whole lot of
software in there that absolutely don't know about. A simple WHATIS
CWSDSTUB would make my life much easier.

Obviously, I could write a WHATIS.BAT myself, and store it in
FDOS\LINKS, which is in the path. Something like:
@if exist \FDOS\APPINFO\%1.LSM HEAD -N 5 \FDOS\APPINFO\%1.LSM
Not so pretty, but it works, and it's only 62 bytes.

But my point is, this is mentioned in the Help pages, so these
programs did once exist, and I can't image why someone would remove
them purposefully. In other words, I think this is a little bug, and
if needed, I can download an investigate earlier versions and see if I
can find these programs and add them, but that would only solve *my*
problem, and so I felt it was worth mentioning.

Take care,
Simon

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[Freedos-user] Apropos and Whatis

2017-06-12 Thread Simon van Meygaarden
Greetings, Folks.

One of the things I really like about FreeDOS 1.2 is the incredible
Help browser: a perfect way to browse through the documentation, and,
in my opinion, much better then the man-pages in Linux.
In "How to use the FreeDOS help" I found a reference to an Apropos
command, and a Whatis command, which seemed very helpful in trying to
find out what FreeDOS has to offer. However, these commands are not
available in either BASE or FULL installation, FDIMPLES doesn't
mention them, and I can't find them in the Packages.

So the question is: am I doing something wrong, and, if not, how do I
add these commands to my system?

Take care,
Simon

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Codename?

2017-06-10 Thread Simon van Meygaarden
Greetings, Folks.

Eric, Jim - good to meet!

Eric - I mostly use names within volume labels, which have the full 11
characters, but you're right, its probably better to stick to 8
characters, to allow for folder- and file names.

Nice list, though, most of them actually do make some sense. -smile-
I named 1.2 RC1 "Heaven" so I could tell my wife "I've been in heaven
all day long..." LOL

Jim - I'd love to read more about the history of FreeDOS, and I'll
keep an extra eye on your blog next week. As one who can still
remember booting up PC-DOS 1.0 from a 5.25 inch floppy, you're
bringing back so many wonderful memories... -smile-

That said, and with all due respect, I would like to urge you to
reconsider and select a nice name for FreeDOS 1.2. Trying not to get
too philosophical, but naming things is a somewhat magical or perhaps,
even divine form of act; an expression of recognition of
individuality, so to speak, and I dare say, FreeDOS 1.2 *deserves* to
be recognized.

So, for magic's sake, give the kid a name! -smile-

Take care,
Simon

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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Codename?

2017-06-09 Thread Simon van Meygaarden
Greetings, Folks.

A simple question, if I may: does FreeDOS 1.2 have a codename?
Wiki tells me all versions uptil 0.8 had codenames, but from then on, none!

I really like things having names, so right now I am using MINNESOTA
for FreeDOS 1.2 (also testing REDMOND -smile-) but I gladly switch to
another name is there is one.

Thanks in advance,
Take care,
Simon

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