Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Thanks, Ralf: It seems you have never used DOS before (or only a very long time ago). I was using DOS raw in my daily tasks over three decades ago! That "INSTALL" you are referring to is a special config.sys command to install (load) device drivers and such. It has nothing to do with "installing an app" (there is strictly seen nothing that needs to be "installed" in DOS, unlike in a lot of newer OS). I've found an ambiguity in the instructions, that can cause confusion! .BAT is (along with .COM and .EXE) a direct executable file. However to run directly executable files (like the GEM.BAT you mentioned) you either have to - provide the full path (like "\fdos\opengem\gem.bat" to start it (if that folder has been previously been extracted), or - change in the opengem folder (with "cd opengem") and type "gem.bat" - or simply type "gem.bat" if the folder with that executable files is "in the path" (which is an environment variable and you can check that by simply typing "path") Thank you; it's all coming back to me (murkily)! :-) B. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Thanks, Johnpaul: To add to the wonderful GEM discussion, when I run GEM on my modern laptop running FreeDOS and OpenGEM, GEM produces a blank white screen. I have now gotten GEM working on a 32 bit Dell PC under FreeDOS. However, in safe mode, it works fine (though some pixmaps or characters are missing.) I am not able to get rid of the calculator, clock and print spooler. If say I drag the Calculator over the Wastebasket--it just sits, without any indication of focus-shift. All I can do is quit GEM! So that means that some driver messes with GEM. On quitting GEM, I see the following error. {CHDIR failed for 'GEMAPPS\GEMSYS'.} -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
On 1/5/2021 1:01 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: I still have a problem, Jim: That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked, and specific paths usually don't matter much. As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer. That is physically-separate from my 64-bit Linux computers--save for sharing a VGA monitor with the laptop, via a KVM switch. The Dell is only using FreeDOS. None of my computers are using emulators! I rebooted the Dell, which said: "Welcome to the FreeDOS 1.2 operating system...". Then I tried the following. C:\>install=\fdos\opengem\gem.bat As I have previously posted, I have been unable to use "install" on the FreeDOS machine! So The above yielded this error. {Bad command or filename - "install".} Yet "help install" says: "INSTALL is a CONFIG.SYS /FDCONFIG.SYS command.". And just "help" says: "These are the config.sys /fdconfig.sys commands:... install". So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the above error, when I try to use "install!. It seems you have never used DOS before (or only a very long time ago). That "INSTALL" you are referring to is a special config.sys command to install (load) device drivers and such. It has nothing to do with "installing an app" (there is strictly seen nothing that needs to be "installed" in DOS, unlike in a lot of newer OS). .BAT is (along with .COM and .EXE) a direct executable file. However to run directly executable files (like the GEM.BAT you mentioned) you either have to - provide the full path (like "\fdos\opengem\gem.bat" to start it (if that folder has been previously been extracted), or - change in the opengem folder (with "cd opengem") and type "gem.bat" - or simply type "gem.bat" if the folder with that executable files is "in the path" (which is an environment variable and you can check that by simply typing "path") Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
To add to the wonderful GEM discussion, when I run GEM on my modern laptop running FreeDOS and OpenGEM, GEM produces a blank white screen. However, in safe mode, it works fine (though some pixmaps or characters are missing.) So that means that some driver messes with GEM. On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 4:19 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote: > > > In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a > > test-directory. This is what it contains > > Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys > therein, contains the following. > > { > SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS > > !COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS > !LASTDRIVE=Z > !BUFFERS=20 > !FILES=40 > !MENUCOLOR=7,0 > > MENUDEFAULT=1,5 > MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free > MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded > MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode) > MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode) > > 124?DOS=HIGH > 12?DOS=UMB > 124?DOSDATA=UMB > 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG > 234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE > 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG > 34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT > 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT > } > -- > members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote: In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a test-directory. This is what it contains Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys therein, contains the following. { SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS !COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS !LASTDRIVE=Z !BUFFERS=20 !FILES=40 !MENUCOLOR=7,0 MENUDEFAULT=1,5 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode) MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode) 124?DOS=HIGH 12?DOS=UMB 124?DOSDATA=UMB 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG 234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG 34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT } -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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I wrote: So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the above error, when I try to use "install!. I discovered that my old USB stick installation of FreeDOS wasn't recognised--because I had wrongly inserted it into a network/Ethernet port! Then replacing that drive into a USB port on my FreeDOS computer, I booted into that. In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a test-directory. This is what it contains. But I couldn't even use HELP! { !COUNTRY=001,858:\FDSetup\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS !LASTDRIVE=Z !BUFFERS=20 !FILES=40 DOS=HIGH DOS=UMB DOSDATA=UMB DEVICE=\FDSetup\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE SHELLHIGH=\FDSetup\BIN\COMMAND.COM \FDSetup\BIN /E:2048 /P=\AUTOEXEC.BAT } -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
I still have a problem, Jim: That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked, and specific paths usually don't matter much. As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer. That is physically-separate from my 64-bit Linux computers--save for sharing a VGA monitor with the laptop, via a KVM switch. The Dell is only using FreeDOS. None of my computers are using emulators! I rebooted the Dell, which said: "Welcome to the FreeDOS 1.2 operating system...". Then I tried the following. C:\>install=\fdos\opengem\gem.bat As I have previously posted, I have been unable to use "install" on the FreeDOS machine! So The above yielded this error. {Bad command or filename - "install".} Yet "help install" says: "INSTALL is a CONFIG.SYS /FDCONFIG.SYS command.". And just "help" says: "These are the config.sys /fdconfig.sys commands:... install". So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the above error, when I try to use "install!. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Sorry about the confusion, Ralf: Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. Ok, just to be clear, FreeDOS of course does not run or install on any version of Linux, be it 32bit or 64bit. I have Ubuntu Linux on two 64-bit computers. While I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed on a 32-bit computer. Being a user of both Ubuntu (on 64 bit computers) and FreeDOS (on a 32-bit computer), I chose for the latter version 1.2--and not 1.3 as a more-competent previous-poster had wrongly-assumed of me! Therefor, what you failed to mention, at least I could not find it in any previous post of yours (unless I missed one, had a long and stressful day) is what kind of VM/emulator you are using in order to try and install/run FreeDOS. I had used a 64-bit computer running Ubuntu 20.04.1 to make a FreeDOS CD-ROM. I then put the latter into the 32-bit FreeDOS computer. And I have been since struggling with the latter. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Further, Jim: But even if you don't have FDIMPLES, you can still install packages "manually." Just unzip them and put the files wherever you like. From the CD-ROM (D:\UTIL), I unzipped OPENGEM.ZIP. Now in the 32 bit PC I have C:\FDOS\OPENGEM Within that, I used MORE on README.TXT. {Run the "INSTALL.BAT" file Bad command or filename - "run" Bad command or filename - "install.bat".} -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On 1/4/2021 11:42 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: As a mere user, Jim, I am finding procedures problematic: On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. Ok, just to be clear, FreeDOS of course does not run or install on any version of Linux, be it 32bit or 64bit. Therefor, what you failed to mention, at least I could not find it in any previous post of yours (unless I missed one, had a long and stressful day) is what kind of VM/emulator you are using in order to try and install/run FreeDOS... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
As a mere user, Jim, I am finding procedures problematic: On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. If you installed FreeDOS 1.2 "Base", then you didn't get FDIMPLES. That's fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 rc3, but in FreeDOS 1.2 you don't get FDIMPLES unless you do a "Full" install. I have done that twice, first "Full", and then Full with Source. Even though I can't use the latter! I got the same errors posted-about previously. Also I want to report a design-error. The FDIMPLES start-up information mentions that something would happen if I pressed "F8". But all that screen-display flashed past and was over before I could either understand, or act upon that advice! But even if you don't have FDIMPLES, you can still install packages "manually." Just unzip them and put the files wherever you like. I had previously tried that unsuccessfully. First on a 64 bit PC with Ubuntu. And then via some batch file on the old 32 bit machine. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Further teething-trouble, Jim: On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. Thank you, I have found those. D:\UTIL\OPENGEM.ZIP On the 32-bit PC, in FreeDOS Installer, I selected "[X]" OPENGEM in "[+]" Utilities. Then (I think by tabbing), I highlighted "OK" at the bottom of the blue FDIMPLES screen. And I clicked the "Enter" key. {install d:\util\opengem.zip Error: custom dir 'links' is not a valid absolute path! A:\>} -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. On FreeDOS 1.3, they are under "Graphical Desktops" If you installed FreeDOS 1.2 "Base", then you didn't get FDIMPLES. That's fixed in FreeDOS 1.3 rc3, but in FreeDOS 1.2 you don't get FDIMPLES unless you do a "Full" install. But even if you don't have FDIMPLES, you can still install packages "manually." Just unzip them and put the files wherever you like. That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked, and specific paths usually don't matter much. On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:56 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > I am having trouble here, Brandon: > > > Make sure your FreeDOS CD is in the drive. > > Using my 64 bit Linux computer, I downloaded the legacy CD-ROM, saved to > disk named "FDI-CD1". This contains folders: ARCHIVER, BASE, BOOT, > DEVEL, EDIT, GAMES, NET, PKGINFO, SOUND, and UTIL; and the files > boot.cat and boot.img. > > > Then run FDIMPLES. > > I put the newly recorded CD-ROM into my old 32 bit PC. I switched the > focus to D:. DIR/W says that the volume in drive D is FDI-CD. Then I > typed "FDIMPLES". Resulting in the error "Bad command or filename". The > same occurs with C:. > > I have an old installation on a USB drive recognised as A:. FDIMPLES > shows the FreeDOS Installer, 0.9.7. > > > Go to > > “Graphical Desktops”, press TAB, press ENTER on “OPENGEM.” > > I see listed: Archivers, Base, Boot Tools, Development, Editors, Games, > Networking, Sound, and Utilities. This list does not contain "Graphical > Desktops"! > -- > members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Thank you, Robert for explanation. :) On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 10:21 PM Robert Riebisch wrote: > Hi Ray, > > >> I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a > tyask > >> with a lot of files. > > > > I disagree. You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees? A > > two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones. Move - on > > the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files, > > it just rewrites the table, so it is instant. > > > > I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to > > work with a GUI. It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller. > > My guess: For Joao a TUI is GUI, i.e., anything not commandline is a "GUI". > > Cheers, > Robert > -- > +++ BTTR Software +++ > Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ > DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
I am having trouble here, Brandon: Make sure your FreeDOS CD is in the drive. Using my 64 bit Linux computer, I downloaded the legacy CD-ROM, saved to disk named "FDI-CD1". This contains folders: ARCHIVER, BASE, BOOT, DEVEL, EDIT, GAMES, NET, PKGINFO, SOUND, and UTIL; and the files boot.cat and boot.img. Then run FDIMPLES. I put the newly recorded CD-ROM into my old 32 bit PC. I switched the focus to D:. DIR/W says that the volume in drive D is FDI-CD. Then I typed "FDIMPLES". Resulting in the error "Bad command or filename". The same occurs with C:. I have an old installation on a USB drive recognised as A:. FDIMPLES shows the FreeDOS Installer, 0.9.7. Go to “Graphical Desktops”, press TAB, press ENTER on “OPENGEM.” I see listed: Archivers, Base, Boot Tools, Development, Editors, Games, Networking, Sound, and Utilities. This list does not contain "Graphical Desktops"! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Make sure your FreeDOS CD is in the drive. Then run FDIMPLES. Go to “Graphical Desktops”, press TAB, press ENTER on “OPENGEM.” Press TAB twice and ENTER on OK. Personally, however, I find OpenGEM to be quite ugly. My pick would be SEAL, if I’m going for beauty. Brandon Taylor Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Bryan Kilgallin<mailto:kilgal...@iinet.net.au> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 7:06 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui? Thanks, Jim: > > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM". GEM was released as open source > back in > > 1996. > Include one in a FreeDOS package. > -- > > > > > There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS. Please remind me where it is, or how to open or get it. In my FreeDOS installation on an old 32 bit PC, I looked in FDOS. Therein, I looked in PACKAGES. Then I gave up! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Thanks, Jim: > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM". GEM was released as open source back in > 1996. Include one in a FreeDOS package. -- There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS. Please remind me where it is, or how to open or get it. In my FreeDOS installation on an old 32 bit PC, I looked in FDOS. Therein, I looked in PACKAGES. Then I gave up! -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 8:05 PM Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Thanks, geneb: > > > Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM". GEM was released as open source back in > > 1996. > Include one in a FreeDOS package. > -- > There is one for OpenGEM already, and it's included in FreeDOS. :-) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Hi Ray, >> I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask >> with a lot of files. > > I disagree. You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees? A > two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones. Move - on > the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files, > it just rewrites the table, so it is instant. > > I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to > work with a GUI. It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller. My guess: For Joao a TUI is GUI, i.e., anything not commandline is a "GUI". Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page: https://www.bttr-software.de/ DOS ain't dead: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Joao Silva wrote: Hello. I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask with a lot of files. I disagree. You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees? A two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones. Move - on the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files, it just rewrites the table, so it is instant. I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to work with a GUI. It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Hello. I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask with a lot of files. When there wre only DOS i used a file manager called X-Tree Gold, and still have him and i found a version for Windows, Z-Tree Gold. I don't like much windows, i prefer DOS, but there is no way to deny evolution... On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 8:55 PM ZB wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 08:08:11PM +, Joao Silva wrote: > > > In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click > everything. > > > > DOS = No GUI. > > > > it's Better, Faster... > > Ditto. Aren't we fed up with these "GUIs" everywhere? Really a pity that > since a longer time I cannot use Lynx, because no site presently has > alternate pages for text-mode browser, that was keeping all that shiny > "trendy-jazzy" trash away, passing through just pure information I was > looking for > -- > regards, > Zbigniew > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Thanks, geneb: Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM". GEM was released as open source back in 1996. Include one in a FreeDOS package. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2021, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:34:41 -0600 Doctor Vell wrote: Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS? don't know if it still exists but there's GEM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEM_(desktop_environment) Google "FreeGEM" or "OpenGEM". GEM was released as open source back in 1996. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 08:08:11PM +, Joao Silva wrote: > In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click everything. > > DOS = No GUI. > > it's Better, Faster... Ditto. Aren't we fed up with these "GUIs" everywhere? Really a pity that since a longer time I cannot use Lynx, because no site presently has alternate pages for text-mode browser, that was keeping all that shiny "trendy-jazzy" trash away, passing through just pure information I was looking for -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:34:41 -0600 Doctor Vell wrote: > Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS? don't know if it still exists but there's GEM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEM_(desktop_environment) ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Hello! In DOS, PC-DOS, MS-DOS or FreeDOS there is a prompt, not a shell like Windows from 1 to 3.11. Windows 95/98 are a GUI to DOS. In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click everything. DOS = No GUI. it's Better, Faster... On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:36 PM Doctor Vell wrote: > Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS? > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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> Like GEM? > > https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/ You mean OpenGEM ;-) http://www.opendawn.com/opengem/ http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/opengem.html https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/opengem/OpenGEM%20SDK%203/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/OldFiles/ https://cyberside.net.ee/files/gui/opengem/screenshots/ Or something like that ;-) Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Like GEM? [https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/](https://winworldpc.com/product/gem/1x)3x --- gge...@pm.me ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, January 2nd, 2021 at 9:34 AM, Doctor Vell wrote: > Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS?___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user