OT JCL (was Re: system backups/copies)

2006-01-15 Thread darm0k 

At 1:00 PM -0500 01/15/2006, Laurent Daudelin's sig said:


JCL: /J-C-L/ n. 1. IBM's supremely rude Job Control Language. JCL is the
script language used to control the execution of programs in IBM's batch
systems. JCL has a very fascist syntax, and some versions will, for example,
barf if two spaces appear where it expects one. Most programmers confronted
with JCL simply copy a working file (or card deck), changing the file names.


ROFLMAO.  Rememberies...  Long time ago in a state far away, I was 
working at the computer center at college.  One of the freshmen 
programming classes used our batch machine.  The professor gave them 
a sample JCL block to put around their card decks, that started with:


//JOB 

At the bottom of the instructions, it said to replace her name with 
theirs.  But we all know that students can't read!  uh oh.


Picture it... The night before the first assignment is due.  The 
student area of the computer center is *crowded* with kids hyped on 
coffee and Jolt.  The flood of decks is so big, the batch machine is 
falling farther and farther behind.  Turnaround is over an hour.


We take a rack of cards into the machine room and run them.  An hour+ 
later, we come out with the cards and box or three of printout, 
rip'n'sort 'em, then give the whole mess to a runner to take the 'em 
up to the professor's office -- because every job had her name on it! 
The students are staring at us - the panic growing on their faces ...


A.  JCL.  Gotta love it.

- Dan.

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Re: system backups/copies

2006-01-15 Thread darm0k 

At 4:29 PM -0700 01/14/2006, Paul Stamsen wrote:

Is there a way to back up or copy using CCC on my network?


I don't beleive CCC supports network operations.

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Re: system backups/copies

2006-01-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin 
on 14/01/06 18:29, Paul Stamsen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there a way to back up or copy using CCC on my network?

Nope, the disk has to be local.

-Laurent.
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JCL: /J-C-L/ n. 1. IBM's supremely rude Job Control Language. JCL is the
script language used to control the execution of programs in IBM's batch
systems. JCL has a very fascist syntax, and some versions will, for example,
barf if two spaces appear where it expects one. Most programmers confronted
with JCL simply copy a working file (or card deck), changing the file names.
Someone who actually understands and generates unique JCL is regarded with
the mixed respect one gives to someone who memorizes the phone book. It is
reported that hackers at IBM itself sometimes sing "Who's the breeder of the
crud that mangles you and me? I-B-M, J-C-L, M-o-u-s-e" to the tune of the
"Mickey Mouse Club" theme to express their opinion of the beast. 2. A
comparative for any very rude software that a hacker is expected to use.
"That's as bad as JCL." As with COBOL, JCL is often used as an archetype of
ugliness even by those who haven't experienced it. See also IBM, fear and
loathing.



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Re: system backups/copies

2006-01-14 Thread Paul Stamsen 
Is there a way to back up or copy using CCC on my network?
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Thanks,

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