Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:

> I think adding FT should be pretty easy, whereas I think video might be
> a lot of work due to the codecs etc.

codecs are handled by gstreamer, not sure we do a lot about that. I CC
to liori who may have ideas about that.

> So, maybe, we could as well participate in the GSoC and not only XMPP?
> There's no requirement for us to be only part of the XMPP projects, we
> could be a project as well in the GSoC.

Gajim is not an organisation. And I don't have to time to manage all
that process.

PS: I replied to the list, even if you message was only to me.
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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
> Am 08.02.2009 um 16:30 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:
> 
>> Esessions: already in release, and I don't see any bug.
> 
> It's a very basic implementation, not yet complete. But it's going to go
> away anyway due to XTLS, I guess.

what is not complete?

>> Jingle: Liori will work on that after his exams, in some weeks.
> 
> That's only Jingle Audio, I guess? Then we could have Jingle Video and
> Jingle File Transfers as a project.

Yep that are projects I thought about. But I don't know if it's hard and
long enough for a GSOC project (3 months full time job).As we'll already
have jingle for voice, is adding FT or video hard? I cannot answer.

>> Plugin system: I'll talk about that with Vardo. Maybe on wednesday.
> 
> Ok.
> 
>> But that doesn't mean someone else cannot work on a new feature. I
>> cannot do everything in this project: discuss and fix tickets, implement
>> new features. I need help. So anything that can bring help (GSOC for
>> example) is very welcome.
> 
> I don't think only introducing new features is a good idea. We could
> have a SoC project which is to fix bugs, do API changes, rewrite some of
> the code that needs a rewrite. We could have a project that is to
> separate the GUI code from the XMPP code (it's sometimes mixed in
> common/) etc. There can be project that help Gajim, but don't introduce
> new features before the others are stable.

I don't think such a project would be accepted by XSF members. Plugin
system last year was hardly discussed, and not easily accepted.

Not that what you said is useless, of course! But it doesn't promote
XMPP directly, showing new feature that can be done thanks to XMPP.

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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
> Am 08.02.2009 um 14:55 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> GSOC will arrive in the next monthes, so we can start thinking about
>> project we could propose.
>>
>> So what new features would you like to see in Gajim ?
>>
>> We can discuss that on Wednesday at the end of the meeting.
> 
> I think we should not introduce any new features for now, but finish and
> stabilize the features introduced in the last SoCs. I'm mainly talking
> about Jingle, the Plugin System and ESessions here.

Esessions: already in release, and I don't see any bug.
Jingle: Liori will work on that after his exams, in some weeks.
Plugin system: I'll talk about that with Vardo. Maybe on wednesday.

But that doesn't mean someone else cannot work on a new feature. I
cannot do everything in this project: discuss and fix tickets, implement
new features. I need help. So anything that can bring help (GSOC for
example) is very welcome.

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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Schleifer

Am 08.02.2009 um 14:55 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:


Hi all,

GSOC will arrive in the next monthes, so we can start thinking about
project we could propose.

So what new features would you like to see in Gajim ?

We can discuss that on Wednesday at the end of the meeting.


I think we should not introduce any new features for now, but finish  
and stabilize the features introduced in the last SoCs. I'm mainly  
talking about Jingle, the Plugin System and ESessions here.


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Re: [Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Schleifer

Am 08.02.2009 um 14:55 schrieb Yann Leboulanger:


Hi all,

GSOC will arrive in the next monthes, so we can start thinking about
project we could propose.

So what new features would you like to see in Gajim ?

We can discuss that on Wednesday at the end of the meeting.


I think we should not introduce any new features for now, but finish  
and stabilize the features introduced in the last SoCs. I'm mainly  
talking about Jingle, the Plugin System and ESessions here.


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[Gajim-devel] GSOC

2009-02-08 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Hi all,

GSOC will arrive in the next monthes, so we can start thinking about
project we could propose.

So what new features would you like to see in Gajim ?

We can discuss that on Wednesday at the end of the meeting.
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Re: [Gajim-devel] Weekly Bug party?

2009-02-08 Thread Yann Leboulanger
Mateusz Biliński wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 20:28, Yann Leboulanger  wrote:
>> Mateusz Biliński wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> What would you say about Weekly Bug Party? I'm not talking here about
>>> bugs solving, but deciding what to do with filed tickets.
>>> [cut!]
>> First I think it's a good idea to gather all dev from time to time.
>>
>> But what I wonder is: is this meeting usefull? It seems I'm the only one
>> to read / comment / fix tickets for a long time. I think that this mean
>> all dev are busy for some time. Am I wrong? Do some other dev find this
>> kind of meeting usefull?
> 
> Maybe this will prompt people (not only devs) to help with Gajim
> development even if they have a really busy week - one hour a week is
> not that much and it might inspire to work on fixes for tickets (and
> will probably integrate community) IHMO
> 

There is not much answer, but let's try to meet us on Wednesday february
11th, at 9pm GMT+1

I hope there will be as much developers and people interested by
development as possible.

See you all on Wednesday.

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