Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-18 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 18.09.2016 um 15:12 schrieb Tobias Boege:

> I second this. I may have already mentioned this but soon after the local
> library search path was implemented, one of my projects was prospering.
> I have taken a habit of calling the module which maintains an application-
> or library-specific directory "Config", for the lack of a better universal
> word. In my case, I needed both a directory for the application and for
> the library, and ended up with two Config modules, the library one of which
> was exported. The result was chaos. I did not even think about the name
> collision until lots of debugging time passed.

If you are able to control the naming inside your own projects, you are
in a relatively comfortable position, but if you want to use foreign
libs and keep them up to date you are lost in case of conflicts.


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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-18 Thread Tobias Boege
On Sun, 18 Sep 2016, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> If this is a wishlist, I would wish
> 
> Namespaces
> 
> This really could lift Gambas development to a new level because it
> would be easy to share libraries without worrying about any name
> collissions.
> 

I second this. I may have already mentioned this but soon after the local
library search path was implemented, one of my projects was prospering.
I have taken a habit of calling the module which maintains an application-
or library-specific directory "Config", for the lack of a better universal
word. In my case, I needed both a directory for the application and for
the library, and ended up with two Config modules, the library one of which
was exported. The result was chaos. I did not even think about the name
collision until lots of debugging time passed.

Regards,
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-13 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:37:51 +0300
Jussi Lahtinen  wrote:

> Why don't you use some text editor like gedit?
> 
> 
> Jussi
> 


> >
> > But that text file is not editable when the project is running.
> >
> > b

> > 

For the same reason that I refuse to use use the wheely bin to take out the 
garbage when I have a perfectly good Lambourghini to do it in! :-)

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-12 Thread Charlie Reinl

Am Montag, den 12.09.2016, 14:27 +0200 schrieb Benoît Minisini:
> Le 12/09/2016 à 12:14, Charlie Reinl a écrit :
> > Salut,
> >
> > since a few days I worked with the new 3.9.x IDE version.
> > And I missed the old console! Because I often used it to store
> > temporarily some lines code.
> > So my wish, not necessarily for Christmas, a writing pad, just beside
> > the console.
> >
> 
> The console was never intented to be used for that!
> 
> Why don't you just create a text file in the "Project" folder and use it 
> as writing pad?
> 

While I posted this afternoon only to Benoît, here the answer again for the 
list.

Salut Benoît,

because the old console was always on and it was handy like that. And
now I'm used to it!  
Have you never driven a nail with an empty bottle of red wine?

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-12 Thread Jussi Lahtinen
Why don't you use some text editor like gedit?


Jussi

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:31 AM, adamn...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:27:45 +0200
> Benoît Minisini  wrote:
>
> > Le 12/09/2016 à 12:14, Charlie Reinl a écrit :
> > > Salut,
> > >
> > > since a few days I worked with the new 3.9.x IDE version.
> > > And I missed the old console! Because I often used it to store
> > > temporarily some lines code.
> > > So my wish, not necessarily for Christmas, a writing pad, just beside
> > > the console.
> > >
> >
> > The console was never intented to be used for that!
> >
> > Why don't you just create a text file in the "Project" folder and use it
> > as writing pad?
> >
> > --
> > Benoît Minisini
> >
>
> But that text file is not editable when the project is running.
>
> b
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-12 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:27:45 +0200
Benoît Minisini  wrote:

> Le 12/09/2016 à 12:14, Charlie Reinl a écrit :
> > Salut,
> >
> > since a few days I worked with the new 3.9.x IDE version.
> > And I missed the old console! Because I often used it to store
> > temporarily some lines code.
> > So my wish, not necessarily for Christmas, a writing pad, just beside
> > the console.
> >
> 
> The console was never intented to be used for that!
> 
> Why don't you just create a text file in the "Project" folder and use it 
> as writing pad?
> 
> -- 
> Benoît Minisini
> 

But that text file is not editable when the project is running.

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-12 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-12 8:27 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini :

> Why don't you just create a text file in the "Project" folder and use it
> as writing pad?
>
well benout have right!

2016-09-10 3:33 GMT-04:00 Christof Thalhofer :

> Please correct me if I'm wrong: REST came later and as I can see, the
> upcoming of REST ist somewhat an answer to the extreme complexity of SOAP.
>
yes! i mean in the REST context of course.


>
> For a REST webservice you need a good tutorial, but not really a
> framework. The only thing that is needed for REST is a router that maps
> url paths to functions and sends back the result via HTTP. The result
> can be anything, a file, an integer, a Json string, whatever.
>
so then benoit now Christof ilustrate it!


> A router does a mapping like this:
> 
> > Method URL Action
> > GET/api/todos  Retrieve all todos
> > GET/api/todos/search/bug   Search for todos with ‘bug’ in their
> name
> > GET/api/todo/1 Retrieve todo with id == 1
> > POST   /api/todo   Add a new todo
> > PUT/api/todo/1 Update todo with id == 1
> > DELETE /api/todo/1 Delete todo with id == 1
> 
>



> My understanding: If you do REST it would be somewhat easy, if you do
> SOAP it would be horrible.
>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-12 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 12/09/2016 à 12:14, Charlie Reinl a écrit :
> Salut,
>
> since a few days I worked with the new 3.9.x IDE version.
> And I missed the old console! Because I often used it to store
> temporarily some lines code.
> So my wish, not necessarily for Christmas, a writing pad, just beside
> the console.
>

The console was never intented to be used for that!

Why don't you just create a text file in the "Project" folder and use it 
as writing pad?

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-12 Thread Charlie Reinl
Salut,

since a few days I worked with the new 3.9.x IDE version.
And I missed the old console! Because I often used it to store
temporarily some lines code. 
So my wish, not necessarily for Christmas, a writing pad, just beside
the console. 

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-10 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 10.09.2016 um 17:11 schrieb adamn...@gmail.com:

> Ah, what would I know. SOAP was basically crap. Never worked. Not
> even in wundows. So to keep laying layers of ice cream over the top
> of a load of cow stuff just extends the life of something that should
> have been euthanased in the first place.

Ok, I would say it a little more polite, but I agree with that.

:-)

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-10 Thread adamn...@gmail.com
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:33:34 +0200
Christof Thalhofer  wrote:

> Am 09.09.2016 um 17:25 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:
> 
> > many programers like REST due have free of implementation of own protocol,
> > and if i want to cheap traffic, Json then definitely we will be in better
> > place in terms of payload, but complexity are higher, and i already know
> > that gambas its knowed by the easy of usage for programers
> 
> Please correct me if I'm wrong: REST came later and as I can see, the
> upcoming of REST ist somewhat an answer to the extreme complexity of SOAP.
> 
> For a REST webservice you need a good tutorial, but not really a
> framework. The only thing that is needed for REST is a router that maps
> url paths to functions and sends back the result via HTTP. The result
> can be anything, a file, an integer, a Json string, whatever.
> 
> Here is an example with the microframework Slim for PHP:
> https://arjunphp.com/creating-restful-api-slim-framework/
> 
> A router does a mapping like this:
> 
> 
> > Method URL Action
> > GET/api/todos  Retrieve all todos
> > GET/api/todos/search/bug   Search for todos with ‘bug’ in their name
> > GET/api/todo/1 Retrieve todo with id == 1
> > POST   /api/todo   Add a new todo
> > PUT/api/todo/1 Update todo with id == 1
> > DELETE /api/todo/1 Delete todo with id == 1
> 
> 
> > OH MEN this will be hard to implement and made a component! too much to
> > implement!?!!
> 
> My understanding: If you do REST it would be somewhat easy, if you do
> SOAP it would be horrible.
> 
> 
> Alles Gute
> 
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Ah, what would I know. SOAP was basically crap. Never worked. Not even in 
wundows. So to keep laying layers of ice cream over the top of a load of cow 
stuff just extends the life of something that should have been euthanased in 
the first place. 

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-10 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 09.09.2016 um 17:25 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:

> many programers like REST due have free of implementation of own protocol,
> and if i want to cheap traffic, Json then definitely we will be in better
> place in terms of payload, but complexity are higher, and i already know
> that gambas its knowed by the easy of usage for programers

Please correct me if I'm wrong: REST came later and as I can see, the
upcoming of REST ist somewhat an answer to the extreme complexity of SOAP.

For a REST webservice you need a good tutorial, but not really a
framework. The only thing that is needed for REST is a router that maps
url paths to functions and sends back the result via HTTP. The result
can be anything, a file, an integer, a Json string, whatever.

Here is an example with the microframework Slim for PHP:
https://arjunphp.com/creating-restful-api-slim-framework/

A router does a mapping like this:


> Method URL Action
> GET/api/todos  Retrieve all todos
> GET/api/todos/search/bug   Search for todos with ‘bug’ in their name
> GET/api/todo/1 Retrieve todo with id == 1
> POST   /api/todo   Add a new todo
> PUT/api/todo/1 Update todo with id == 1
> DELETE /api/todo/1 Delete todo with id == 1


> OH MEN this will be hard to implement and made a component! too much to
> implement!?!!

My understanding: If you do REST it would be somewhat easy, if you do
SOAP it would be horrible.


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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-09 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-09 2:23 GMT-04:00 Christof Thalhofer :

> Maybe for a Java programmer with big iron and big frameworks in the
> background that do the job it is ok.
>
that the object of the gambas webservice component,

in java its great due programer dont have to mess with the complex of the
process, only "implements" the rules to consumes a webservice from another
host ...

i'll exlain a little :
* SOAP means Simple Object Access Protocol
* REST means Representation State Transfer

each are implemented depends of the complexity and needs:
* SOAP only support XML for interchange data
* REST supports others format like text, JSON, XML etc.

many programers like REST due have free of implementation of own protocol,
and if i want to cheap traffic, Json then definitely we will be in better
place in terms of payload, but complexity are higher, and i already know
that gambas its knowed by the easy of usage for programers

OH MEN this will be hard to implement and made a component! too much to
implement!?!!

AND I WANT TO  USE IT ON A OLDER SYSTEM YET!



>
> http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/xml/soap/simple
>
> ;-)
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-09 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 08.09.2016 um 23:03 schrieb PICCORO McKAY Lenz:
> well benoit u have right, in fact in that moment i dont remember how start
> to implement a webservice in java, and i'm called itseflt "expert"

I do not like Soap webservices. The few times, I had to implement Soap
in a piece of software I hated it because of it's complexity. And I
found another workaround then.

Maybe for a Java programmer with big iron and big frameworks in the
background that do the job it is ok.

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/xml/soap/simple

;-)

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-08 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
when? all the great ideas from mocosoft was stolled!

Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com

2016-09-08 17:11 GMT-04:00 Fabien Bodard :

> 2016-09-08 23:03 GMT+02:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz :
> > well benoit u have right, in fact in that moment i dont remember how
> start
> > to implement a webservice in java, and i'm called itseflt "expert"
> >
> > i can contribute in december to implement a component with you..
> >
> > and HErberth with mocosoft citation men please! seriously?
> Why not ? M$ not only do bullshits. SOme time they have great ideas too ;-)
> >
> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
> >
> > 2016-09-08 14:25 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini  >:
> >
> >> Le 08/09/2016 à 20:17, herberth guzman a écrit :
> >> >  >> But what do you all guys call "webservices"???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It serves to integrate applications created in languages and different
> >> > platforms over the Internet or your own Intranet Based on standards?
> >> >
> >> >   *  A Web service can be registered in order to make it available to
> >> other
> >> > users and that they can locate it. A mechanism for registering these
> >> > services is through UDDI, acronym for Universal Description, Discovery
> >> and
> >> > Integration, a 'repository of Web Services ". To register a service
> you
> >> > have to keep in mind that you must provide the information in your
> >> company,
> >> > in which categories ubicarías your service and interface to use to
> >> consume
> >> > this service.
> >> >
> >> >   *  The mechanism used by a Web Service to specify how data should
> >> > provide, so that anyone can interact with the same, is through XML.
> This
> >> > information is stored in a file called WSDL (Web Services Description
> >> > Language), which contains an XML document with the description of
> certain
> >> > SOAP and how to exchange messages, as well as where the service
> resource
> >> > and which protocol should talk who consume it.
> >> >
> >> >* The communication protocol used is generally SOAP, which is
> >> relatively
> >> > simple to use.
> >> >
> >> > * Web Services use commonly known and disseminated protocols such
> as
> >> > XML, TCP / IP as the transport protocol and HTTP as hypertext transfer
> >> > protocol.
> >> > WebServices
> >> > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms950421.aspx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Herberth Guzmán
> >>
> >> Ha ok. I actually knew. :-)
> >>
> >> What prevent you from making a webservice in Gambas? I don't see...
> >>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-08 Thread Fabien Bodard
2016-09-08 23:03 GMT+02:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz :
> well benoit u have right, in fact in that moment i dont remember how start
> to implement a webservice in java, and i'm called itseflt "expert"
>
> i can contribute in december to implement a component with you..
>
> and HErberth with mocosoft citation men please! seriously?
Why not ? M$ not only do bullshits. SOme time they have great ideas too ;-)
>
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
>
> 2016-09-08 14:25 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini :
>
>> Le 08/09/2016 à 20:17, herberth guzman a écrit :
>> >  >> But what do you all guys call "webservices"???
>> >
>> >
>> > It serves to integrate applications created in languages and different
>> > platforms over the Internet or your own Intranet Based on standards?
>> >
>> >   *  A Web service can be registered in order to make it available to
>> other
>> > users and that they can locate it. A mechanism for registering these
>> > services is through UDDI, acronym for Universal Description, Discovery
>> and
>> > Integration, a 'repository of Web Services ". To register a service you
>> > have to keep in mind that you must provide the information in your
>> company,
>> > in which categories ubicarías your service and interface to use to
>> consume
>> > this service.
>> >
>> >   *  The mechanism used by a Web Service to specify how data should
>> > provide, so that anyone can interact with the same, is through XML. This
>> > information is stored in a file called WSDL (Web Services Description
>> > Language), which contains an XML document with the description of certain
>> > SOAP and how to exchange messages, as well as where the service resource
>> > and which protocol should talk who consume it.
>> >
>> >* The communication protocol used is generally SOAP, which is
>> relatively
>> > simple to use.
>> >
>> > * Web Services use commonly known and disseminated protocols such as
>> > XML, TCP / IP as the transport protocol and HTTP as hypertext transfer
>> > protocol.
>> > WebServices
>> > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms950421.aspx
>> >
>> >
>> > Herberth Guzmán
>>
>> Ha ok. I actually knew. :-)
>>
>> What prevent you from making a webservice in Gambas? I don't see...
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-08 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 08/09/2016 à 20:17, herberth guzman a écrit :
>  >> But what do you all guys call "webservices"???
>
>
> It serves to integrate applications created in languages ​​and different
> platforms over the Internet or your own Intranet Based on standards?
>
>   *  A Web service can be registered in order to make it available to other
> users and that they can locate it. A mechanism for registering these
> services is through UDDI, acronym for Universal Description, Discovery and
> Integration, a 'repository of Web Services ". To register a service you
> have to keep in mind that you must provide the information in your company,
> in which categories ubicarías your service and interface to use to consume
> this service.
>
>   *  The mechanism used by a Web Service to specify how data should
> provide, so that anyone can interact with the same, is through XML. This
> information is stored in a file called WSDL (Web Services Description
> Language), which contains an XML document with the description of certain
> SOAP and how to exchange messages, as well as where the service resource
> and which protocol should talk who consume it.
>
>* The communication protocol used is generally SOAP, which is relatively
> simple to use.
>
> * Web Services use commonly known and disseminated protocols such as
> XML, TCP / IP as the transport protocol and HTTP as hypertext transfer
> protocol.
> WebServices
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms950421.aspx
>
>
> Herberth Guzmán

Ha ok. I actually knew. :-)

What prevent you from making a webservice in Gambas? I don't see...

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-08 Thread herberth guzman
 >> But what do you all guys call "webservices"???


It serves to integrate applications created in languages ​​and different
platforms over the Internet or your own Intranet Based on standards?

  *  A Web service can be registered in order to make it available to other
users and that they can locate it. A mechanism for registering these
services is through UDDI, acronym for Universal Description, Discovery and
Integration, a 'repository of Web Services ". To register a service you
have to keep in mind that you must provide the information in your company,
in which categories ubicarías your service and interface to use to consume
this service.

  *  The mechanism used by a Web Service to specify how data should
provide, so that anyone can interact with the same, is through XML. This
information is stored in a file called WSDL (Web Services Description
Language), which contains an XML document with the description of certain
SOAP and how to exchange messages, as well as where the service resource
and which protocol should talk who consume it.

   * The communication protocol used is generally SOAP, which is relatively
simple to use.

* Web Services use commonly known and disseminated protocols such as
XML, TCP / IP as the transport protocol and HTTP as hypertext transfer
protocol.
WebServices
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-07 17:13 GMT-04:00 Fabien Bodard :

> > that capability of the gambas env will raised up the gambas to a
> technology!
> it look like rpc or soap ... no ?


in fact, webservices use at one, of them: or rcp or soap for make it!

in the php cases, when i write a llitte experiment between php webservice
adn .net webservice, noted the usage of soap extensively
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Fabien Bodard
2016-09-07 22:28 GMT+02:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz :
> 2016-09-07 14:25 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini :
>>
>> But what do you all guys call "webservices"???
>>
>
> ahh ok, well , benoit sorry maybe u dont use before..
>
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_web
>
> but with webservices a java application can intterchange data with a php
> application without need of re-codign the app in java to php o viceversa
>
> its like socket, but using stablished protocols that both sides assume and
> understant  is utilized for machine-to-machine communication, more
> specifically for transferring machine readable file formats such as XML and
> JSON. In practice, the Web service typically provides an object-oriented
> Web-based interface to a database server, utilized for example by another
> Web server, or by a mobile application, that provides a user interface to
> the end user. Another common application offered to the end user may be a
> mashup, where a Web server consumes several Web services at different
> machines, and compiles the content into one user interface.
>
> that capability of the gambas env will raised up the gambas to a technology!
it look like rpc or soap ... no ?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-07 14:25 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini :
>
> But what do you all guys call "webservices"???
>

ahh ok, well , benoit sorry maybe u dont use before..

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_web

but with webservices a java application can intterchange data with a php
application without need of re-codign the app in java to php o viceversa

its like socket, but using stablished protocols that both sides assume and
understant  is utilized for machine-to-machine communication, more
specifically for transferring machine readable file formats such as XML and
JSON. In practice, the Web service typically provides an object-oriented
Web-based interface to a database server, utilized for example by another
Web server, or by a mobile application, that provides a user interface to
the end user. Another common application offered to the end user may be a
mashup, where a Web server consumes several Web services at different
machines, and compiles the content into one user interface.

that capability of the gambas env will raised up the gambas to a technology!




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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 07.09.2016 um 19:56 schrieb Benoît Minisini:

>> An example? Some good documentation? Some tests that show it's
>> performing well under heavy (parallel) load? Configuration examples for
>> Apache, Nginx. FCGI?
> 
> Hey, I won't learn you how to configure an HTTP server. I already have 
> not enough time to correctly write the documentation...

Did I say you should do that? As soon as docs are done I could do an
Apache example config, maybe others can do that for Nginx ...

... and write it into the Wiki.

:-)


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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 07/09/2016 à 20:13, herberth guzman a écrit :
> I'm fall in love of Gambas3, and every day I fall in love more, more more,
> web.form (I love you)
>
> With WEBSERVICE implemented, i promise not to be unfaithful.
>
> Excellent idea.
> gambas3+webform+(gb.reporting service)+webservice
>
> Cool
>
> I feel fly
>
> Herberth Guzmán
>

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread herberth guzman
I'm fall in love of Gambas3, and every day I fall in love more, more more,
web.form (I love you)

With WEBSERVICE implemented, i promise not to be unfaithful.

Excellent idea.
gambas3+webform+(gb.reporting service)+webservice

Cool

I feel fly

Herberth Guzmán


> Besides some extensions in the OOP department of the language or related
> syntactic sugar in the compiler, which I can never remember unless I'm
>
>the webservices! the webservices! the webservices!


> I would like to have a component which lets you treat the various
> (compressed) archive formats in a way that's similar to the File &
> Directory functions [1-3] in Gambas, that is as if they were a file
system.
>
>well that its ussefully of course! currently compress component handle
>bzip2 and gz only, but its more hard to do in this short time to december!
>JE JE JE SO WEBSERVICES WEBSERVICES! FIRTS!


> You better get to work Benoit. This list is not going to become shorter
:-)
>
>yeah hurry i'm impatient! (snap snap : lashes sounds)
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-07 13:56 GMT-04:00 Benoît Minisini :

> Hey, I won't learn you how to configure an HTTP server. I already have
> not enough time to correctly write the documentation...
>
ok ok benoit, and very thanks for hat, the cgi scripts and programin on
gambas are great now

but with a module specialited in webservice, programers only consume the
funtionality and dont mess with the problems of abstraction!


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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 07/09/2016 à 19:28, Christof Thalhofer a écrit :
> Am 07.09.2016 um 19:16 schrieb Benoît Minisini:
>
>>> benoit, a new pair opf sock too! with the WEBSERVICE! OK THE WEBSERVICE!
>>
>> I don't know what you are talking about exactly. Create a CGI script in
>> Gambas, put it behind an HTTP server, and you have your webservice. What
>> do you need else?
>
> An example? Some good documentation? Some tests that show it's
> performing well under heavy (parallel) load? Configuration examples for
> Apache, Nginx. FCGI?

Hey, I won't learn you how to configure an HTTP server. I already have 
not enough time to correctly write the documentation...

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Christof Thalhofer
Am 07.09.2016 um 19:16 schrieb Benoît Minisini:

>> benoit, a new pair opf sock too! with the WEBSERVICE! OK THE WEBSERVICE!
> 
> I don't know what you are talking about exactly. Create a CGI script in 
> Gambas, put it behind an HTTP server, and you have your webservice. What 
> do you need else?

An example? Some good documentation? Some tests that show it's
performing well under heavy (parallel) load? Configuration examples for
Apache, Nginx. FCGI?

ModGambas :-)


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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016, Tobias Boege wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Sep 2016, Moviga Technologies wrote:
> > For Christmas this year, I wish for a native RichText component for 
> > Gambas 3.10! :)
> > 
> 
> Besides some extensions in the OOP department of the language or related
> syntactic sugar in the compiler, which I can never remember unless I'm
> confronted with their lack, I would like to have a component which lets
> you treat the various (compressed) archive formats in a way that's similar
> to the File & Directory functions [1-3] in Gambas, that is as if they were
> a file system.
> 
> You better get to work Benoit. This list is not going to become shorter :-)
> 

JFTR, I started such a component a year ago in my local copy of Gambas as it
seems. My main source file contains the remark that libarchive [1] may /not/
be a good library because it is stream-oriented, but I can't recall if there
were really any major drawbacks (in the incompatibility between the library's
stream-like interface and the Gambas object-based interface). Maybe I will
try again sometime.

Regards,
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Benoît Minisini
Le 07/09/2016 à 19:01, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit :
> 2016-09-07 12:56 GMT-04:00 Jorge Carrión :
>
>> I wish a new pair of socks... 
>>
> oh men.. great idea!
>
> benoit, a new pair opf sock too! with the WEBSERVICE! OK THE WEBSERVICE!
>
>

I don't know what you are talking about exactly. Create a CGI script in 
Gambas, put it behind an HTTP server, and you have your webservice. What 
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-07 12:56 GMT-04:00 Jorge Carrión :

> I wish a new pair of socks... 
>
oh men.. great idea!

benoit, a new pair opf sock too! with the WEBSERVICE! OK THE WEBSERVICE!


>
> 2016-09-07 18:46 GMT+02:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz :
>
> > 2016-09-07 12:35 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege :
> >
> > > Besides some extensions in the OOP department of the language or
> related
> > > syntactic sugar in the compiler, which I can never remember unless I'm
> > >
> > the webservices! the webservices! the webservices!
> >
> >
> > > I would like to have a component which lets you treat the various
> > > (compressed) archive formats in a way that's similar to the File &
> > > Directory functions [1-3] in Gambas, that is as if they were a file
> > system.
> > >
> > well that its ussefully of course! currently compress component handle
> > bzip2 and gz only, but its more hard to do in this short time to
> december!
> > JE JE JE SO WEBSERVICES WEBSERVICES! FIRTS!
> >
> >
> > > You better get to work Benoit. This list is not going to become shorter
> > :-)
> > >
> > yeah hurry i'm impatient! (snap snap : lashes sounds)
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Jorge Carrión
I wish a new pair of socks... 

2016-09-07 18:46 GMT+02:00 PICCORO McKAY Lenz :

> 2016-09-07 12:35 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege :
>
> > Besides some extensions in the OOP department of the language or related
> > syntactic sugar in the compiler, which I can never remember unless I'm
> >
> the webservices! the webservices! the webservices!
>
>
> > I would like to have a component which lets you treat the various
> > (compressed) archive formats in a way that's similar to the File &
> > Directory functions [1-3] in Gambas, that is as if they were a file
> system.
> >
> well that its ussefully of course! currently compress component handle
> bzip2 and gz only, but its more hard to do in this short time to december!
> JE JE JE SO WEBSERVICES WEBSERVICES! FIRTS!
>
>
> > You better get to work Benoit. This list is not going to become shorter
> :-)
> >
> yeah hurry i'm impatient! (snap snap : lashes sounds)
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
2016-09-07 12:35 GMT-04:00 Tobias Boege :

> Besides some extensions in the OOP department of the language or related
> syntactic sugar in the compiler, which I can never remember unless I'm
>
the webservices! the webservices! the webservices!


> I would like to have a component which lets you treat the various
> (compressed) archive formats in a way that's similar to the File &
> Directory functions [1-3] in Gambas, that is as if they were a file system.
>
well that its ussefully of course! currently compress component handle
bzip2 and gz only, but its more hard to do in this short time to december!
JE JE JE SO WEBSERVICES WEBSERVICES! FIRTS!


> You better get to work Benoit. This list is not going to become shorter :-)
>
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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread Tobias Boege
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016, Moviga Technologies wrote:
> For Christmas this year, I wish for a native RichText component for 
> Gambas 3.10! :)
> 

Besides some extensions in the OOP department of the language or related
syntactic sugar in the compiler, which I can never remember unless I'm
confronted with their lack, I would like to have a component which lets
you treat the various (compressed) archive formats in a way that's similar
to the File & Directory functions [1-3] in Gambas, that is as if they were
a file system.

You better get to work Benoit. This list is not going to become shorter :-)

Regards,
Tobi

[1] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/cat/file
[2] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb/file
[3] http://gambaswiki.org/wiki/comp/gb/stat

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Re: [Gambas-user] Christmas gift

2016-09-07 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
i think there's something like that already made in gambas!

For Chrismas this year i want:

* webservice componente for gambas

with this the gambas will be "the gambas tecnology platform framework"
and not only "gambas development languaje"

the power of gambas then will be raised! exponentially!



Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
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