Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss.
Hi Imbar, Unfortunately, no on all counts. The fact of the matter is such game sims are difficult to create given the mount of math and physics involved, and I don't think just anyone can create such a game unless they have a higher education than high school. Some people have been able to play Microsoft Flight Simulator, which doesn't have any combat in it, but its not exactly 100% accessible either. For instance,a lot of the guys like Ron who is in to MS Flight Simulator uses programs like Its Your Plane to add a copilot to the game that will take off, land, and do other things for you. You might instruct the copilot to take the plane up to 20,000 feet and it will do it for you. While this makes the game somewhat accessible, makes it playable, it doesn't allow you personally to take manual control of the plane and fly it yourself. So its not exactly 100% accessible if you are looking for something you can fly on your own. There are similar problems with Microsoft Train simulator. Some things are accessible and some things aren't. Its not a full proof 100% accessible sim. Sometimes it is the miner things like not being able to keep an eye on the boiler pressure gauge as you are rrolling down the track that turn out to be big problems for us since we will likely blow up the boiler without keeping an eye on it etc. I guess what might be nice to do some day is if someone would take the source for the open source sims like Flight Gear and modify them with accessibility support. I've got them installed on Linux and I know they have Windows versions too. So I imagine if someone were to add Sapi support and a few other updates they might be accessible. I'd have to look and see what needs to be done. Cheers! On 4/17/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote: Hi, Is there a flight sim with no combat? Is there a train sim? A boating sim? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss.
Thanks much. Would you say things are more accessible on Linux? Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss. Hi Imbar, Unfortunately, no on all counts. The fact of the matter is such game sims are difficult to create given the mount of math and physics involved, and I don't think just anyone can create such a game unless they have a higher education than high school. Some people have been able to play Microsoft Flight Simulator, which doesn't have any combat in it, but its not exactly 100% accessible either. For instance,a lot of the guys like Ron who is in to MS Flight Simulator uses programs like Its Your Plane to add a copilot to the game that will take off, land, and do other things for you. You might instruct the copilot to take the plane up to 20,000 feet and it will do it for you. While this makes the game somewhat accessible, makes it playable, it doesn't allow you personally to take manual control of the plane and fly it yourself. So its not exactly 100% accessible if you are looking for something you can fly on your own. There are similar problems with Microsoft Train simulator. Some things are accessible and some things aren't. Its not a full proof 100% accessible sim. Sometimes it is the miner things like not being able to keep an eye on the boiler pressure gauge as you are rrolling down the track that turn out to be big problems for us since we will likely blow up the boiler without keeping an eye on it etc. I guess what might be nice to do some day is if someone would take the source for the open source sims like Flight Gear and modify them with accessibility support. I've got them installed on Linux and I know they have Windows versions too. So I imagine if someone were to add Sapi support and a few other updates they might be accessible. I'd have to look and see what needs to be done. Cheers! On 4/17/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote: Hi, Is there a flight sim with no combat? Is there a train sim? A boating sim? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] more sim game questionss.
Hi Imbar, Well, I guess that would all depend on what type of application or area of accessibility you are asking about. For instance, as far as games goes there aren't that many accessible games just because nobody has really developed that many accessible Linux games for us to play. Although, there are plenty of free text adventures that are accessible for Linux gamers which does help offset that issue slightly. However, on the plus side Linux has some huge accessibility advantages over Windows when it comes to software installation. If you were to grab a distribution like Vinux you could completely install Linux from scratch using speech and braille. You can't exactly do that with Windows. As far as general accessibility apps like Firefox are more or less the same as Windows versions. There are a few things that could be improved such as Orca doesn't have the cool little command to put links in a list like Jaws and Window-Eyes does, but over all Firefox is pretty much accessible otherwise. Same goes for office. Open Office is fairly accessible with Orca for the most part. At least for what I do. There are things they are working on improving such as table support etc, but I don't really notice a huge difference between screen reader accessibility for MS Office 2007 on Windows and screen reader accessibility with Open Office 3.3 for Linux. Cheers! On 4/18/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote: Thanks much. Would you say things are more accessible on Linux? Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] more sim game questionss.
Hi, Is there a flight sim with no combat? Is there a train sim? A boating sim? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.