[Bug target/58833] RFE: 64-bit native compiler on Solaris

2014-02-22 Thread ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58833

Eric Botcazou ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #4 from Eric Botcazou ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org ---
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[Bug target/58833] RFE: 64-bit native compiler on Solaris

2013-10-24 Thread ro at CeBiTec dot Uni-Bielefeld.DE
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58833

--- Comment #3 from ro at CeBiTec dot Uni-Bielefeld.DE ro at CeBiTec dot 
Uni-Bielefeld.DE ---
 --- Comment #1 from Eric Botcazou ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org ---
 Would it be possible for GCC in Solaris to auto-configure itself as a 64-bit
 native compiler by default (instead of the current 32-bit native compiler
 default)?

 The decision was made years ago not to do so, at least on SPARC, because the
 64-bit compiler was measurably slower than the 32-bit compiler.

That's my experience as well, both on SPARC and x86.  When some users
loudly clamored for a 64-bit-default Solaris/x86 configuration, one
argument was that a 64-bit gcc would be faster due to a larger register
set.  My experience is just the opposite: a amd64-pc-solaris2.11
bootstrap is considerably slower that i386-pc-solaris2.11.  I've not
even started investigating in detail, so this is just one data point.

 The output of `uname -p` in Solaris is always 'i386' or 'sparc', regardless
 of whether or not the kernel is 32-bit or 64-bit. In Solaris 11 and later,
 kernels are 64-bit only, so the output of `uname -p` does not really reflect
 reality.

 Given that the 32-bit compiler is biarch by default, at least on SPARC, I'm 
 not
 sure there is really an incentive for switching to 64-bit by default.

Agreed: on the opposite, I see a number of counter arguments:

* Studio (at least until the current 12.3) defaults to 32-bit.  Why
  would gcc be different on just one OS version?

* I think the user experience would be terrible: consider a user who
  used to work on Solaris 10 with gcc x.y.  Now he switches to Solaris
  11, rebuilds gcc x.y and suddenly all his objects are 64-bit, with
  nothing else changed.  He has to modify his build environment to
  retain interoperability with his existing objects and libraries.  Not
  exactly what I'd call seamless.

Given all this, I think users who really need (or think they need) a
64-bit-default gcc on Solaris can get it today, but the default should
remain 32-bit.

Rainer


[Bug target/58833] RFE: 64-bit native compiler on Solaris

2013-10-22 Thread ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58833

Eric Botcazou ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Last reconfirmed||2013-10-22
 CC||ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Eric Botcazou ebotcazou at gcc dot gnu.org ---
 Would it be possible for GCC in Solaris to auto-configure itself as a 64-bit
 native compiler by default (instead of the current 32-bit native compiler
 default)?

The decision was made years ago not to do so, at least on SPARC, because the
64-bit compiler was measurably slower than the 32-bit compiler.

 The output of `uname -p` in Solaris is always 'i386' or 'sparc', regardless
 of whether or not the kernel is 32-bit or 64-bit. In Solaris 11 and later,
 kernels are 64-bit only, so the output of `uname -p` does not really reflect
 reality.

Given that the 32-bit compiler is biarch by default, at least on SPARC, I'm not
sure there is really an incentive for switching to 64-bit by default.


[Bug target/58833] RFE: 64-bit native compiler on Solaris

2013-10-22 Thread stefan.teleman at oracle dot com
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58833

--- Comment #2 from Stefan Teleman stefan.teleman at oracle dot com ---
Hi Eric,

Thank you very much for answering so quickly!

--Stefan