[Gendergap] Can I interview you about the deletion process on EN-WP?
Hello (and please pardon the crossposting), I am a Ph.D. researcher at the Digital Enterprise Research Institute in Galway, Ireland. My Ph.D. topic is online discussions, specifically the reasoning and arguments people use. I am currently studying Articles for Deletion in English Wikipedia, to understand how article deletion decisions are made. I am working on a prototype argument assistant to help newcomers understand what kinds of arguments make sense, much in the way that the Article Wizard provides guidance for creating an article. From reading discussions, I am learning what kinds of arguments people use in AfD, especially to see what comments advance the discussion. Next I need to get some perspectives from editors! I'm looking for Wikipedians to interview about the deletion process. I envision a 30 minute skype or phone conversation. I'm interested in learning about what works well in AfD discussions, any frustrations you have with it, and why you generally do or don't !vote in AfD. I hope to talk with Wikipedians with a wide variety of experience editing (from newcomers to EN-WP, to regular EN-WP editors, to admins, especially admins who close discussions), with people who spend little time commenting in deletion discussions, as well as those who do. Would you be willing to talk with me? Let me know the best times for you; you can reach me at jschnei...@pobox.com or with the info below. -Jodi Schneider WP:Jodi.a.schneider skype:jodi.a.schneider http://jodischneider.com/jodi.html___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Sex Ratios in Wikidata, Wikipedias, and VIAF
There are lots of related discussions on the talk page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P21 Translation seems like one of the major issues! So far, sex and gender are not distinguished as far as I can tell. -Jodi On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Powers ltpowers_w...@rochester.rr.comwrote: I wonder if that's a translation issue. English Wikipedia is mostly concerned with gender, but other languages might only consider sex, or use the same word for both concepts. Powers 8^] -Original Message- From: Ryan Kaldari [mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org] Sent: Tuesday 21 May 2013 19:07 To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: [Gendergap] Sex Ratios in Wikidata, Wikipedias, and VIAF An interesting blog post about sex ratio data from Wikipedia and Wikidata: http://hangingtogether.org/?p=2877 Interestingly, Wikidata only allows assigning a 'sex' to a person, not a 'gender'. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] 19th Century Indian women who attended med school in the U.S.
Well-spotted, Michael. I created a draft EN article for Dora Chatterjee -- anybody want to give it an edit? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_Chatterjee The other two have EN articles already: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandi_Gopal_Joshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurubai_Karmarkar -Jodi PS: More on women in medicine, including some redlinks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_medicine On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:06 AM, Michael J. Lowrey orangem...@gmail.comwrote: http://scroll.in/article/remarkable-photos-of-19th-century-indian-women-in-us-medical-school?id=659624 Surely at least one of these is notable? -- Michael J. Orange Mike Lowrey When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food and clothes. -- Desiderius Erasmus ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Novel by Woman-Notability
Hi Kathleen, I suppose you are writing about this revision (or thereabouts): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=October_(novel)direction=nextoldid=617753940 A notability tag is not a Scarlet A: it is merely a sign that the notability of the topic hasn't been sufficiently asserted. The best way to avoid it? Choose multiple, clear, independent sources. Check the subject-specific notability guidelines. For books, for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(books) Given a revision with two sources, one from a little-known site called we love this book, it's unsurprising! Remember that editors come from all backgrounds and we don't all know as much as/the same things as you! I've thought a lot about notability, as a researcher, so if you want to talk more about it, let me know! -Jodi On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Kathleen McCook klmcc...@gmail.com wrote: The reason I asked to discuss here is to ascertain whether or not there seems to be a different set of notability standards by gender. I encourage students to contribute to Wikipedia. But when notability is an editor's decision with so many exceptions...how do you encourage? Really, I am careful and if a book by a brilliant woman like Zoe Wicomb causes notability queries..how, on earth, can this gender gap be addressed? Here is Ms. Wicomb's prize announcement at Yale. http://windhamcampbell.org/2013/winner/zo%C3%AB-wicomb On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: On what basis in Clive Cussler notable? That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think we should say that “all published works by authors who have their paperbacks displayed prominently in the racks near the front of bookstores at airports are notable [image: Smile]“). Well, I don't know. I had never heard of Cussler before today (don't spend a lot of time in airport bookshops), but I did look at a couple of his novels' Wikipedia articles, and they didn't indicate significance any better than the October article. (One of them had a single, ephemeral reference; the other had 7 that seemed pretty thin.) I can see how Kathleen would be frustrated by what surely appears from her perspective to be a double standard. Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Novel by Woman-Notability
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: If you're looking to have the students engage with Wikipedia's systemic bias, I think it might be more worthwhile to have them evaluate existing deletion debates (and similar discussions) -- rather than having them contribute directly to Wikipedia. That's an interesting idea, Pete! If that sounds like a meaningful classroom exercise, I'd be happy to get involved. My dissertation research used deletion debates as a case study -- the Research Newsletter has a couple of writeups here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2012/September#cite_ref-11 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2013/May#In_brief I think it would be easier for them to look at a larger number of cases, and observe without having their personal attachment to an article come into play, if they read stuff that they haven't been involved in. Detachment certainly helps! Another way to look at systemic bias is to connect to current research about how - geographic coverage varies - language editions have different depths and coverage Happy to talk further if that interests anybody... -Jodi -Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] editing target: biologist emerita Annette Coleman's page
Here's an article that needs improvement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_W._Coleman It was created at the Brown edit-a-thon -- and could do with some expansion. -Jodi ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Video games featuring female antagonists
The category Video games featuring female antagonists is up for deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_September_2#Category:Video_games_featuring_female_antagonists ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] sex work
Hi Sarah, I'd suggest this WikiProject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality -Jodi On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I've been tweeted at to help some people about sex work on Wikipedia. I don't have the capacity to support them at this point in my life. The last person I knew working in that realm on WP was Cindamuse https://twitter.com/nottobeblamed/status/517695123769942016 And of course the first thing I do is fail to point them in the direction of the right WikiProject they can find help. Can someone please help? I sincerely appreciate it. Thank you. -Sarah (aka Missvain) -- Sarah Stierch - Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
[Gendergap] Help write an article about American Airlines' first female commercial pilot
In 1973, Bonnie Tiburzi became the first female pilot for a major commercial airline in the US. Her article redirects to AA. Want to help fix that? Here's a draft that needs improvement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bonnie_Tiburzi -Jodi ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
