Beanshell moved to github

2015-09-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

As some of you might recall, we tried to start a new incubation project
for Beanshell, or alternatively just get it included in Apache Commons
but neither of those happened.

We (actually Pat) did the SGA paperwork and the code was effectively 
relicensed under the Apache License version 2.


The code was living in Apache Extras but with the deprecation of
Google Code we have moved Beanshell to github.

You are welcome to join, contribute, or simply consume from it's new
home at github:

https://github.com/beanshell/beanshell

Regards,

Pedro.

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Re: [NOTICE] corinthia PPMC+committer -= dortef, franz, gbg, ianc, jani, louis, pmkelly

2015-09-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello;

I am sad to see corinthia move outside the ASF. It looks like it's 
pretty late to change that and as someone said Apache is not for 
everyone. In any case I thought I'd comment:


In Apache OpenOffice we considered the same situation with GTK, and the
general consensus at the time is that GTK was to be considered a system
library. Our function in OpenOffice was not to create a graphics toolkit
so the consideration seemed appropriate. We also just had to adapt to 
whatever set of tools each OS offers.


We did have a plan B: the enlightenment foundation libraries should
serve a similar purpose and are under a BSD license:

https://www.enlightenment.org/

I understand Webkit is mixed LGPL+BSD, getting a quality replacement
for that is probably not easy.

Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache BeanShell in the Incubator

2013-05-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Pedro Giffuni
On May 24, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Simone Tripodi  wrote: 
> Dear ASF members,
> 
> We would like to propose BeanShell for the incubator.
> 
> The proposal draft is available at:
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal,
> follows below the proposal
> 
> Open is open for at least 72h and closes approximately on May 27th at 8:20am 
> GMT
> 
> [ ] +1 accept BeanShell in the Incubator
> [ ] +/-0
> [ ] -1 because (provide a reason)
> 
> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> -Simo
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
> 
> ~~~
> 
> = BeanShell =
> == Abstract ==
> The following proposal is about BeanShell, see JSR-274: The BeanShell
> Scripting Language implementation.
> 
> == Proposal ==
> BeanShell is a small, free, embeddable Java source interpreter with
> object scripting language features, written in Java. BeanShell
> dynamically executes standard Java syntax and extends it with common
> scripting conveniences such as loose types, commands, and method
> closures like those in Perl and JavaScript.
> Users can use BeanShell interactively for Java experimentation and
> debugging as well as to extend your applications in new ways.
> Scripting Java lends itself to a wide variety of applications
> including rapid prototyping, user scripting extension, rules engines,
> configuration, testing, dynamic deployment, embedded systems, and even
> Java education.
> BeanShell is small and embeddable, so users can call BeanShell from
> Java applications to execute Java code dynamically at run-time or to
> provide extensibility in applications. Alternatively, users can use
> standalone BeanShell scripts to manipulate Java applications; working
> with Java objects and APIs dynamically. Since BeanShell is written in
> Java and runs in the same VM as application, users can freely pass
> references to "live" objects into scripts and return them as results.
> 
> == Background ==
> BeanShell is a long living project born in the 2000 thanks to Patrick
> Niemeyer initial effort, who is still maintaining the project, with
> the help of Daniel Leuck and contributions voluntarily sent by users.
> 
> == Rationale ==
> Currently there are no projects hosted by the ASF focused on providing
> JSR-274 implementation, moving the existing BeanShell project under
> the Apache umbrella would mean the ASF provides the JSR-274 reference
> implementation.
> 
> = Current Status =
> == Meritocracy ==
> The historical BeanShell team believes in meritocracy and always acted
> as a community. Mailing list, open issue tracker and other
> communication channels have always been adopted since its first
> release. The adoption in a larger community, such as Apache, is the
> natural evolution for BeanShell. Moreover, the Apache standards will
> enforce the existing BeanShell community practices and will be a
> foundation for future committers involvement.
> 
> == Core Developers ==
> In alphabetical order:
> 
> * Daniel Leuck ,
> * Patrick Niemeyer 
> * Pedro Giffuni 
> * Simone Tripodi 
> 
> == Alignment ==
> Main aim of the project is to develop and maintain a fully flavored
> JSR-274 implementation that can be used by other Apache projects that
> need a Java  Scripting Language.
> 
> = Known Risks =
> == Orphaned Products ==
> The increasing number of BeanShell adopters and the raising interest
> for the JSR-274 technology let us believe that there is a minimal risk
> for this work to being abandoned from the community.
> 
> Moreover, BeanShell has been already used by the following projects for years:
> 
> * Apache OpenOffice
> * Apache Maven
> * Apache JMeter
> 
> == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> All of the committers have experience working in one or more open
> source projects inside and outside ASF.
> 
> == Homogeneous Developers ==
> The list of initial committers are geographically distributed across
> the world with no one company being associated with a majority of the
> developers.  Many of these initial developers are experienced Apache
> committers already  and all are experienced with working in
> distributed development communities.
> 
> == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> To the best of our knowledge, none of the initial committers are being
> paid to develop code for this project. BeanShell has already proven
> its capability to attract external developers.
> 
> == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> A number of existing ASF projects already benefit from B

Re: [PROPOSAL] BeanShell join the Apache Incubator

2013-02-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
This is a great team!


- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Dave Fisher 

> Inviato: Lunedì 18 Febbraio 2013 19:51
> Oggetto: Re: [PROPOSAL] BeanShell join the Apache Incubator
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This does look interesting. I'd like to help and have added myself as a 
> project Mentor if that is alright.
> 

I know Dave since his involvement in Apache OpenOffice and I met Nour
and Simone at ApacheConEU, it will be great to work with all of you guys!


For reference, we have already advanced in the IP clearance process:

Patrick is the main developer and the copyright owner and he already
changed the headers. We were also very lucky that the single (optional)
dependency was relicensed from LGPL to BSD and it was easy to
update.

I am sure this will be a very fun project for all of us involved!

Pedro.


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Re: Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Ciao Simone;

Unfortunately I don't have much time these days
either, and while there is already a development
community around beanshell, we really need someone
Apache to lead.

For now I am really glad they are moving the license
to AL2, this will raise even more interest in ASF.

best regards,

Pedro.

--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Simone Tripodi  wrote:

> Hi Pedro,
> +1 that sounds really interesting - who doesn't know
> Beanshell, it's
> amazing! - I may could help on the proposal, but
> unfortunately I have
> too many stuff to manage this time to manage so I cannot be
> fully
> involved :(
> Looking forward to see more people interested before
> putting black on white!
> All the best, have  anice day,
> Simo
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni 
> wrote:
> > (Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect
> any
> > response only to general@incubator)
> >
> > Hello;
> >
> > As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I
> asked
> > the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.
> >
> > Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree
> to this,
> > they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF.
> They are
> > willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN
> server
> > and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own
> projects
> > though, so in general they would want to spend time in
> an
> > incubation process themselves.
> >
> > http://www.beanshell.org/
> >
> > I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel,
> Script,
> > AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be
> beneficial
> > to the ASF.
> >
> > Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would
> like to
> > take the lead in an incubation process?
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > Pedro.
> >
> >
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Interest in Apache beanshell incubation?

2011-10-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
(Sorry for crossposting for this time, please redirect any
response only to general@incubator)

Hello;

As some advocacy related to Apache OpenOffice.org, I asked
the beanshell.org guys to adopt the Apache License 2.

Not only did Patrick Niemeyer and Daniel Leuck agree to this,
they were willing to transfer beanshell to the ASF. They are
willing to sign a SGA, hand over a mirror of their SVN server
and a dump of their CWiki. They are busy in their own projects
though, so in general they would want to spend time in an
incubation process themselves.

http://www.beanshell.org/

I see there are several Apache projects (BSF, Camel, Script,
AOOo) using Beanshell so I think this would be beneficial
to the ASF.

Perhaps someone already used to Apache ways, would like to
take the lead in an incubation process?

best regards,

Pedro.

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni

[X] +1 Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation (non-binding)

I like the Apache license and I think having a really free alternative
is good for everyone, as much as clang vs gcc and linux vs FreeBSD.

Apache is also a good fit for OO technologically and I think the
incubation process will end up benefiting libreoffice by either code
adoption and by providing further motivation to keep being relevant.

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