Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing
advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in
README.md)?
Best,
Twice
From: Chao Gong
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Thanks for your reminder and suggestion.
Best wishes,
Tom
On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could
> make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during
> the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website,
> project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take
> time.
>
> Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you
> have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you
> will face after you donate your company core project to a
> vendor-neutral foundation.
> Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's
> financial good. The better your project is incubated in the
> foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project.
> Think deeply.
> Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a
> reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a
> startup.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
> Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道：
>
> >
> > Hi Sheng,
> >
> > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains
> > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code,
> > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single
> > repository.
> >
> > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We
> > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from
> > Hertzbeat.
> >
> > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS.
> > This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that
> > the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the
> > foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos,
> > and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud.
> >
> > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues.
> >
> > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to
> > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may
> > change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be
> > patient in participating in incubation.
> >
> > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s
> > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Tom
> >
> > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > I have more questions around this project.
> > >
> > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the
> > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go?
> > >
> > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and
> > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page
> > > style, etc.
> > > Who will be the owner of those pages?
> > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code
> > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine
> > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in
> > > the future.
> > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What
> > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company
> > > rebuild their home page before the donation?
> > >
> > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese),
> > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1
> > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat.
> > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered
> > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could
> > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done,
> > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like
> > > TanCloud do.
> > >
> > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the
> > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company'
> > > legal part?
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道：
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道：
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to
> > > >> indicate that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source
> > > >> community organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does
> > > >> not own the copyright of projects.
> > > >>
> > > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to
> > > >> the re
