Re: INFRA-6774

[Joseph Schaefer]

Oh snap Daniel nice job with that.  I didn’t
even notice that stanza in the config file
before!

On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:

> Joseph Schaefer wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 23:18:11 -0500:
>> 
>> On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  wrote:
>>> 
 Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
 curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
>>> 
>>> You need to create an .htaccess file at the top-level of your tree with the 
>>> following contents
>>> 
>>> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} curator.incubator.apache.org
>>> RewriteRule (.*)  https://curator.apache.org/
>> 
>> Sorry, that last part needs an $1 tacked onto the end: 
>> https://curator.apache.org/$1
> 
> No htaccess is needed, it happens automagically once the TLP dist area
> is created.  See vhosts/zzzothers.conf on eos.


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INFRA-6774

[Jordan Zimmerman]

Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?

Re: INFRA-6774

[Daniel Shahaf]

Joseph Schaefer wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 23:18:11 -0500:
> 
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  wrote:
> > 
> >> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
> >> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
> > 
> > You need to create an .htaccess file at the top-level of your tree with the 
> > following contents
> > 
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} curator.incubator.apache.org
> > RewriteRule (.*)  https://curator.apache.org/
> 
> Sorry, that last part needs an $1 tacked onto the end: 
> https://curator.apache.org/$1

No htaccess is needed, it happens automagically once the TLP dist area
is created.  See vhosts/zzzothers.conf on eos.

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Re: INFRA-6774

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:05 AM, David Crossley  wrote:
> ...A while ago we added that to the FAQ:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#commit-403
> (although that seems to use old terminology).
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html

I have moved (and linked) the "403 - cannot commit" FAQ from
dev/committers.html to /dev/version-control.html#commit-403 to make
sure the svn FAQ is in one place.

-Bertrand

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Re: INFRA-6774

[David Crossley]

Joseph Schaefer wrote:
>
> Already resolved.  A Forbidden response instead
> of a failed auth request almost always implies
> committing using http.

Great, thanks for following up.

What a committer trap that one is.

A while ago we added that to the FAQ:
Google: site:apache.org/dev committer https
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#commit-403
(although that seems to use old terminology).

http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html#https-svn

Would someone please clarify the docs.

-David

> David Crossley wrote:
> > Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
> >> When I tried to commit the change, I get:
> >> 
> >> svn: E175013: Commit failed (details follow):
> >> svn: E175013: Access to '/repos/asf/!svn/me' forbidden
> > 
> > Are you able to commit to other stuff?
> > e.g. your podling status page
> > or to podlings.xml file.
> > You would have had that access while you were in
> > the Incubator and should still have it AFAIK.
> > 
> > How are you doing this process?
> > e.g. via the CMS
> > or via svn checkout on your workstation
> > or ...
> > 
> > -David
> > 
> >> On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jake Farrell  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Please follow the incubation graduation guide 
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the Transferring 
> >>> resources #3.2 user Websites
> >>> 
> >>> Websites
> >>> Transfer the podling website
> >>> Load the website into its new home. See infra notes.
> >>> Update the incubator/site-publish/.htaccess entry to redirect traffic 
> >>> from the old URLs to the new. (svn location is 
> >>> athttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/.htaccess)
> >>> Delete the podling website from 
> >>> /www/incubator.apache.org/content/${podling-name} on people.apache.org if 
> >>> possible. It won't be possible to remove the ${podling-name} directory 
> >>> (because incubator uses svnpubsub). If the podling also used svnpubsub it 
> >>> won't be possible to delete the files either. File a JIRA ticket under 
> >>> INFRA and ask for the remains to be removed.
> >>> Post an announcement to user and development lists
> >>> When using Maven: update pom.xml for the location of the website, as well 
> >>> as the place where the site plugin will deploy the web site (when 
> >>> applicable).
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -Jake
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
> >>> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?

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Re: INFRA-6774

[David Crossley]

Joseph Schaefer wrote:
> No there’s a difference.  Before he was asking what
> infra was going to do to magically make this happen.
> That request was denied.
> 
> 
> Now we have a better question: what can he do himself
> to make this happen?  Here there are some answers to
> questions that should be addressed in the incubator docs
> but aren’t, because this particular website graduation is
> OUTSIDE of the typical incubator.apache.org/foo sub site.
> 
> Technically this is a non-event by design from infra’s
> standpoint because once DNS is enabled we have done all
> we need to do to start serving up the new traffic, other
> than capture any site source relocations in our svnpubsub
> config file.  All a project like curator needs to do now
> is add an appropriate .htaccess file to the top-level of
> their site with the two RewriteCond / RewriteRule directives
> to move traffic away from their incubator subdomain and to
> their top-level domain.

Would someone please merge Joe and the following docs
so we can get out of these loops.

Jake Farrell wrote:
>
> Please follow the incubation graduation guide
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the Transferring
> resources #3.2 user Website

Thank you!

One wonders why projects are not following these guides.

There is also clear direction here:
http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-graduation

-David

> David Crossley wrote:
> > David Crossley wrote:
> >> Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
> >>> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
> >> 
> >> You asked this a few hours ago on infrastructure@ and were given
> >> complete and additional answers by various separate people.
> >> Now you have more people at infra involved in the same stuff.
> >> And now expaned to include all of Incubator.
> >> What is up?.
> > 
> > Ah, i was answering from the infrastructure@ list. Now i see
> > additional information about svn access in the Incubator thread.
> > However, your question above seemed to be a repeat.
> > 
> > -David
> > 
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> > 
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Re: INFRA-6774

[Joseph Schaefer]

Already resolved.  A Forbidden response instead
of a failed auth request almost always implies
committing using http.

On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:28 AM, David Crossley  wrote:

> Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
>> When I tried to commit the change, I get:
>> 
>> svn: E175013: Commit failed (details follow):
>> svn: E175013: Access to '/repos/asf/!svn/me' forbidden
> 
> Are you able to commit to other stuff?
> e.g. your podling status page
> or to podlings.xml file.
> You would have had that access while you were in
> the Incubator and should still have it AFAIK.
> 
> How are you doing this process?
> e.g. via the CMS
> or via svn checkout on your workstation
> or ...
> 
> -David
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jake Farrell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Please follow the incubation graduation guide 
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the Transferring 
>>> resources #3.2 user Websites
>>> 
>>> Websites
>>> Transfer the podling website
>>> Load the website into its new home. See infra notes.
>>> Update the incubator/site-publish/.htaccess entry to redirect traffic from 
>>> the old URLs to the new. (svn location is 
>>> athttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/.htaccess)
>>> Delete the podling website from 
>>> /www/incubator.apache.org/content/${podling-name} on people.apache.org if 
>>> possible. It won't be possible to remove the ${podling-name} directory 
>>> (because incubator uses svnpubsub). If the podling also used svnpubsub it 
>>> won't be possible to delete the files either. File a JIRA ticket under 
>>> INFRA and ask for the remains to be removed.
>>> Post an announcement to user and development lists
>>> When using Maven: update pom.xml for the location of the website, as well 
>>> as the place where the site plugin will deploy the web site (when 
>>> applicable).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Jake
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  
>>> wrote:
>>> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
>>> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: INFRA-6774

[David Crossley]

Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
> When I tried to commit the change, I get:
> 
> svn: E175013: Commit failed (details follow):
> svn: E175013: Access to '/repos/asf/!svn/me' forbidden

Are you able to commit to other stuff?
e.g. your podling status page
or to podlings.xml file.
You would have had that access while you were in
the Incubator and should still have it AFAIK.

How are you doing this process?
e.g. via the CMS
or via svn checkout on your workstation
or ...

-David

> On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jake Farrell  wrote:
> 
> > Please follow the incubation graduation guide 
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the Transferring 
> > resources #3.2 user Websites
> > 
> > Websites
> > Transfer the podling website
> > Load the website into its new home. See infra notes.
> > Update the incubator/site-publish/.htaccess entry to redirect traffic from 
> > the old URLs to the new. (svn location is 
> > athttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/.htaccess)
> > Delete the podling website from 
> > /www/incubator.apache.org/content/${podling-name} on people.apache.org if 
> > possible. It won't be possible to remove the ${podling-name} directory 
> > (because incubator uses svnpubsub). If the podling also used svnpubsub it 
> > won't be possible to delete the files either. File a JIRA ticket under 
> > INFRA and ask for the remains to be removed.
> > Post an announcement to user and development lists
> > When using Maven: update pom.xml for the location of the website, as well 
> > as the place where the site plugin will deploy the web site (when 
> > applicable).
> > 
> > 
> > -Jake
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  
> > wrote:
> > Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
> > curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
> > 
> 

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Re: INFRA-6774

[Joseph Schaefer]

No there’s a difference.  Before he was asking what
infra was going to do to magically make this happen.
That request was denied.


Now we have a better question: what can he do himself
to make this happen?  Here there are some answers to
questions that should be addressed in the incubator docs
but aren’t, because this particular website graduation is
OUTSIDE of the typical incubator.apache.org/foo sub site.

Technically this is a non-event by design from infra’s
standpoint because once DNS is enabled we have done all
we need to do to start serving up the new traffic, other
than capture any site source relocations in our svnpubsub
config file.  All a project like curator needs to do now
is add an appropriate .htaccess file to the top-level of
their site with the two RewriteCond / RewriteRule directives
to move traffic away from their incubator subdomain and to
their top-level domain.


On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:18 AM, David Crossley  wrote:

> David Crossley wrote:
>> Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
>> 
>>> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
>>> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
>> 
>> You asked this a few hours ago on infrastructure@ and were given
>> complete and additional answers by various separate people.
>> Now you have more people at infra involved in the same stuff.
>> And now expaned to include all of Incubator.
>> What is up?.
> 
> Ah, i was answering from the infrastructure@ list. Now i see
> additional information about svn access in the Incubator thread.
> However, your question above seemed to be a repeat.
> 
> -David
> 
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Re: INFRA-6774

[David Crossley]

David Crossley wrote:
> Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
> > curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
> 
> You asked this a few hours ago on infrastructure@ and were given
> complete and additional answers by various separate people.
> Now you have more people at infra involved in the same stuff.
> And now expaned to include all of Incubator.
> What is up?.

Ah, i was answering from the infrastructure@ list. Now i see
additional information about svn access in the Incubator thread.
However, your question above seemed to be a repeat.

-David

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Re: INFRA-6774

[David Crossley]

Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?

You asked this a few hours ago on infrastructure@ and were given
complete and additional answers by various separate people.
Now you have more people at infra involved in the same stuff.
And now expaned to include all of Incubator.
What is up?.

-David

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Re: INFRA-6774

[Joseph Schaefer]

On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer  wrote:

> 
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  wrote:
> 
>> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
>> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
> 
> You need to create an .htaccess file at the top-level of your tree with the 
> following contents
> 
> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} curator.incubator.apache.org
> RewriteRule (.*)  https://curator.apache.org/

Sorry, that last part needs an $1 tacked onto the end: 
https://curator.apache.org/$1

> 
> HTH. Please if you get this working well go back and document it for others 
> to use.
> 


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Re: INFRA-6774

[Joseph Schaefer]

On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  wrote:

> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?

You need to create an .htaccess file at the top-level of your tree with the 
following contents

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} curator.incubator.apache.org
RewriteRule (.*)  https://curator.apache.org/

HTH. Please if you get this working well go back and document it for others to 
use.


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Re: INFRA-6774

[Jordan Zimmerman]

When I tried to commit the change, I get:

svn: E175013: Commit failed (details follow):
svn: E175013: Access to '/repos/asf/!svn/me' forbidden


On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jake Farrell  wrote:

> Please follow the incubation graduation guide 
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the Transferring 
> resources #3.2 user Websites
> 
> Websites
> Transfer the podling website
> Load the website into its new home. See infra notes.
> Update the incubator/site-publish/.htaccess entry to redirect traffic from 
> the old URLs to the new. (svn location is 
> athttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/.htaccess)
> Delete the podling website from 
> /www/incubator.apache.org/content/${podling-name} on people.apache.org if 
> possible. It won't be possible to remove the ${podling-name} directory 
> (because incubator uses svnpubsub). If the podling also used svnpubsub it 
> won't be possible to delete the files either. File a JIRA ticket under INFRA 
> and ask for the remains to be removed.
> Post an announcement to user and development lists
> When using Maven: update pom.xml for the location of the website, as well as 
> the place where the site plugin will deploy the web site (when applicable).
> 
> 
> -Jake
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman  
> wrote:
> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have 
> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
> 

Re: INFRA-6774

[Jake Farrell]

Please follow the incubation graduation guide
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the
Transferring resources
#3.2 user Websites

Websites

   1. Transfer the podling website
  1. Load the website into its new home. See infra
notes
  .
  2. Update the incubator/site-publish/.htaccess entry to redirect
  traffic from the old URLs to the new. (svn location is at
  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/.htaccess
  )
  3. Delete the podling website from /www/
  incubator.apache.org/content/${podling-name} on people.apache.org if
  possible. It won't be possible to remove the ${podling-name} directory
  (because incubator uses svnpubsub). If the podling also used svnpubsub it
  won't be possible to delete the files either. File a JIRA ticket under
  INFRA and ask for the remains to be removed.
  4. Post an announcement to user and development lists
  5. When using Maven: update pom.xml for the location of the website,
  as well as the place where the site plugin will deploy the web site (when
  applicable).



-Jake



On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman wrote:

> Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have
> curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?
>