Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-18 Thread Alexander Broekhuis
2014-06-17 23:27 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org:

 Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;)

 Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase!



Thanks!

This gives us enough PMC members to satisfy the board's need. Can I now
start the vote for Celix graduation?

The updated proposal:

=== Board Resolution ==

X. Establish the Apache Celix Project

   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
   the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
   specification.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Celix Project,
   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
   Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
   related to a native implementation of the OSGi
   specification;
   and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Celix be
   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
   of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
   for management of the projects within the scope of
   responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache Celix Project:

 * Alexander Broekhuis   abro...@apache.org
 * Pepijn Noltes  pnol...@apache.org
 * Bjoern Petribpe...@apache.org
 * Erik Jansman ejan...@apache.org
 * Marcel Offermans   ma...@apache.org
ejan...@apache.org
 * Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org
ejan...@apache.org
 * Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org
ejan...@apache.org

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
   be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
   serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
   Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
   death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
   or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
   encourage open development and increased participation in the
   Apache Celix Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Incubator Celix podling; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
   Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
   Project are hereafter discharged.


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Alexander Broekhuis


Re: [VOTE] Retire the S4 podling

2014-06-18 Thread abiola balogun
Hmn.. Just so all You Know, i am not here to dig Some old holes but just 
çooking for the true part of me and am not here to take over.. Am here and back 
now for peace and harmony.

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 On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:02 PM, abiola balogun a_gucc...@me.com wrote:
 
 Why do u say so and who are you?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Retire the S4 polling
 
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 +1 (binding)
 
 LIeGrue,
 strub
 
 
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 +1, binding.
 
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 wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net
 wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Per recent discussions on general@[1] and s4-dev@ [2], I went ahead
 and
 called for a VOTE on the S4 dev@ mailing list [3] about retiring the
 podling. That VOTE has passed with no -1s and 4 (binding) +1s from
 the
 podling PMC/committers. (S4 only has committers, and doesn't
 distinguish
 between PPMC/committer.)
 
 We didn't get a weigh-in from all mentors/PPMC on the retirement
 VOTE,
 so I'm going ahead and asking for a vote here.
 
 This VOTE will be open for at least 72 hours. Please indicate
 (binding)
 or (non-binding) when casting your VOTE.
 
 +1 [ ] Yes, I am in favor of retiring S4 from the Apache Incubator.
 +0 [ ]
 -1 [ ] No, I am not in favor of retiring S4 because...
 
 +1 (binding)
 
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 Roman.
 
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Re: Call for July's Report Manager

2014-06-18 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014, at 04:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:44 AM, John D. Ament john.d.am...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Roman, hope you don't mind me getting this started early...
 
  Anyone interested in being a report manager for next month (July)'s report?
 
 Happily, Joe Brockmeier has already volunteered:

Just confirming, yes - I'm happy to take this on for July. 

Best,

jzb
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Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier

On 16 Jun 2014, at 21:56, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 11:31PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:

On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
This suggests that ASF is being used as a GitHub of sorts. Are we 
comfortable

with this?


It's not really like GitHub. There is a community, at least a few 
people.
It's definitely not about the cool tools, otherwise they would have gone 
to GitHub.
We asked them recently, they declined and wanted to stay as they feel 
the ASF is the right place (see dev@ for reference)


Speaking for myself, no. I'd be uncomfortable having a specific 
deadline

for graduation, but a podling that's not making progress towards
graduation (in general, not pointing a finger specifically at Wave 
here)

should be terminated.


For what it worth, I think you're right: a permanent incubator project 
doesn't

make sense. For once, there's a lot of people mechanics involved into
podlings' mentoring, reporting, etc. And it doesn't feel exactly right 
to

forever handhold something that doesn't have an intention to evolve.


The have the intention, but not the man power.
There were phases with some excitement.

If the IPMC wants to shut down the podling, then I would like to see us
formulating a few rules when we do that. We should not shut a podling
down just because we feel like that. Instead let us define what it means
to evolve or what the intention to evolve means.

Like:

 - no new committer for a year
 - AND no release for a year
 - AND less than 20 emails in a month on dev@
 - AND less than 10 commits in a month
 - AND no way to change this in the next three months (in example: 
hackathon on horizon)


(according to this, Wave would go to attic)

Cheers,
Christian





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Re: Request for mentor assessment

2014-06-18 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
  - no new committer for a year
  - AND no release for a year
  - AND less than 20 emails in a month on dev@
  - AND less than 10 commits in a month
  - AND no way to change this in the next three months (in example: hackathon
 on horizon)

That is completely fair. In fact [as I promised last week]
I am about to start a DISCUSS thread with amendments
to our Incubation policy outlining these very criteria.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP

2014-06-18 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Alexander Broekhuis
a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote:
 2014-06-17 23:27 GMT+02:00 Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org:

 Sure, the more the merrier or so I've been told ;)

 Looking forward to help getting good project to the next phase!



 Thanks!

 This gives us enough PMC members to satisfy the board's need. Can I now
 start the vote for Celix graduation?

I'd say go ahead and lets hope for the best!

I really think you guys would make a great little TLP.

Thanks,
Roman.


 The updated proposal:

 === Board Resolution ==

 X. Establish the Apache Celix Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi
specification.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Celix Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to a native implementation of the OSGi
specification;
and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Celix be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Celix Project:

  * Alexander Broekhuis   abro...@apache.org
  * Pepijn Noltes  pnol...@apache.org
  * Bjoern Petribpe...@apache.org
  * Erik Jansman ejan...@apache.org
  * Marcel Offermans   ma...@apache.org
 ejan...@apache.org
  * Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org
 ejan...@apache.org
  * Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org
 ejan...@apache.org

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis
be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to
serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Celix Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator Celix podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.


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 Alexander Broekhuis

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