Re: [Gimp-user] The Save dialog box has no response when using tablet pen.

2012-10-01 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:13 AM, minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Alexandre and Jehan:

 My tablet is np10 10.1 tablet PC :
 http://www.yiynova.com/En/proddetails.php?proid=8clsid=4?%3E
 I am a Debian Linux user, the tablet screen and pen was well supported by
 Linux kernel (3.2.0) and Xorg(1.12.1.902), I posted the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 at the end of this mail.


Are you using the linuxwacom X driver (which has some support for
Waltop tablets, I see:
http://linuxwacom.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=linuxwacom/xf86-input-wacom;a=blob;f=src/wcmUSB.c;h=9f327ba6b0210a04933da22861750d304d7edb86;hb=HEAD#l172
and your tablet is apparently a Walcom one sold under another brand)
or the X driver from the vendor itself
(http://www.waltop.com.tw/download.asp?lv=0id=2 which is apparently a
fork off of linuxwacom 0.8.4, according to linuxwacom sources)?
Note that I don't see your device (0x5a) in linuxwacom list. So I
guess the answer is that you are using the vendor driver. Just to be
sure though, would be worth checking.

The problem may indeed come from the driver rather than Gimp,
especially if you use the wrong one (do you use the pen a lot outside
Gimp? Do you have similar issues elsewhere?). Same questions could
apply to GTK: if you have similar issues on other programs, but only
GTK ones, may be a bug in the GTK graphical toolkit.

 I had checked the setting in Input device, the input device (pen) of this
 tablet had been set as Screen mode, and I can drawing with pen pressure,
 So I think the tablet and pen was enabled in Gimp.

For this kind of tablet, you see only a pen input device? Not a pad
too? (I know this is a special type of machine, where the pad is also
the screen. So the question is maybe stupid, but as I cannot test
myself...)

 In Gimp 2.4.7, this No response problem only happened in the second time I
 opened and tried to type filename in Save dialog. The reproduce procedure
 is:
[...]
 Besides, I found, in Gimp-2.6, sometimes the toolbox became unclickable
 for tablet pen, but drawing in the image window with the tablet pen still
 worked fine at the same time. It happened randomly,  I cannot find the rule
 so far. After searching on Google, I guess this gimp-2.6 problem is similar
 to this bug report:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/556670


I see you mention Gimp 2.4.7 and 2.6. Have you tried with 2.8 (last
stable version 2.8.2)? Maybe that's fixed there. That would be worth
installed (or compiled if Debian has no package yet maybe).
I would say that if there is no easy fix to your issue (like a
configuration one that we tried), nor a driver issue, installing the
latter version of Gimp should be the next step to diagnose.

Jehan


 Do I need to offer any information?
 Thank you so much :)

 Regards,
 Minhsien

 ---
 The  following information of this tablet device in /var/log/Xorg.0.log was:
 [14.811] (II) config/udev: Adding input device  WALTOP
 Tablet (/dev/input/event1)
 [14.811] (**)  WALTOP Tablet: Applying
 InputClass evdev tablet catchall
 [14.811] (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for ' WALTOP
 Tablet'
 [14.811] (**)  WALTOP Tablet: always reports
 core events
 [14.811] (**) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Device:
 /dev/input/event1
 [14.811] (--) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Vendor
 0x172f Product 0x5a
 [14.811] (--) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Found 1
 mouse buttons
 [14.811] (--) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Found
 absolute axes
 [14.811] (--) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Found x and
 y absolute axes
 [14.811] (--) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Found
 absolute tablet.
 [14.811] (II) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: Configuring
 as tablet
 [14.811] (**) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet:
 YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
 [14.811] (**) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet:
 EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
 [14.811] (**) Option config_info
 udev:/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/input/input1/event1
 [14.811] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device  WALTOP
 Tablet (type: TABLET, id 10)
 [14.812] (II) evdev:  WALTOP Tablet: initialized
 for absolute axes.
 [14.812] (**)  WALTOP Tablet: (accel) keeping
 acceleration scheme 1
 [14.812] (**)  WALTOP Tablet: (accel)
 acceleration profile 0
 [14.812] (**)  WALTOP Tablet: (accel)
 acceleration factor: 2.000
 [14.812] (**)  WALTOP Tablet: (accel)
 acceleration threshold: 4
 [14.813] (II) config/udev: Adding input device  WALTOP
 Tablet (/dev/input/mouse0)




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Re: [Gimp-user] Features priorities ?

2012-10-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Rastislav Galia wrote:
 Hello everybody, especially the devs :)

 I really enjoy 2.8.2, big thank you ! However, I would like to ask
 about what are the priorities for these features:

 - layer group masks
 - smart objects
 - higher bit depths
 - vector layers

http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Roadmap should answer that :)

OTOH, nobody currently works on masls for layer group, but there's
quite a bit of work on high bit depths support.

Alexandre Prokoudine
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Re: [Gimp-user] Features priorities ?

2012-10-01 Thread br...@buys.net.br

Em 01-10-2012 09:03, Alexandre Prokoudine escreveu:

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Rastislav Galia wrote:

Hello everybody, especially the devs :)

I really enjoy 2.8.2, big thank you ! However, I would like to ask
about what are the priorities for these features:

- layer group masks
- smart objects
- higher bit depths
- vector layers

http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Roadmap should answer that :)

OTOH, nobody currently works on masls for layer group, but there's
quite a bit of work on high bit depths support.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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High bit depth will be deeply appreciated!

;)
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[Gimp-user] [NEEDED ASAP] GIMP 2.8 Not Accepting My ABR Files

2012-10-01 Thread prettypea
I typically use GIMP 2.6. Computer crashed recently so now I've downloaded 2.8. 
When I download ABR files into the brushes folder, the program won't start. It 
wigs out and doesn't work. I copied abr files just fine into my GIMP 2.6. Why 
is this happening?

I even went so far as to find GIMP 2.6 on the web for download. But the same 
problem. There are strange 'VBR' files now that didn't used to be in my old 
brush folder but are suddenly there now.

Can anyone help me out?

(and before anyone blithely tells me 'gimp doesn't accept abr files' my old 2.6 
 accepted them JUST fine. No fancy converter or anything)

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[Gimp-user] Gimp gets to cache then crashes

2012-10-01 Thread prettypea
Same here. I think it has to do with the abr brush files I downloaded, because 
when I took them out it worked just fine again.

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[Gimp-user] [NEEDED ASAP] GIMP 2.8 Not Accepting My ABR Files

2012-10-01 Thread prettypea
I also am repeatedly receiving an APPCRASH error.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The Save dialog box has no response when using tablet pen.

2012-10-01 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:37 AM, minhsien0330 minhsien0...@gmail.com wrote:


 2012/10/1 Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com


 Are you using the linuxwacom X driver (which has some support for
 Waltop tablets, I see:

 http://linuxwacom.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=linuxwacom/xf86-input-wacom;a=blob;f=src/wcmUSB.c;h=9f327ba6b0210a04933da22861750d304d7edb86;hb=HEAD#l172
 and your tablet is apparently a Walcom one sold under another brand)
 or the X driver from the vendor itself
 (http://www.waltop.com.tw/download.asp?lv=0id=2 which is apparently a
 fork off of linuxwacom 0.8.4, according to linuxwacom sources)?
 Note that I don't see your device (0x5a) in linuxwacom list. So I
 guess the answer is that you are using the vendor driver. Just to be
 sure though, would be worth checking.


 Dear Jehan:

 I did not install the driver from the vendor or xserver-xorg-input-wacom, I
 am not sure it's wacom driver or not.
 The dmesg and Xorg.0.log seems not talking about this, do you know how to
 check the driver?

There is this other project, DIGImend, that was linked from
linuxwacom: 
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=DIGImend
This project works in particular to improve non-Wacom tablets.
They don't provide a separate driver, because they prefer to provide
upstream patches to the kernel and the evdev X generic input driver
(and maybe to linuxwacom in the future), which is even better in my
opinion because it means you don't have to install anything else.
Anyway looking again your Xorg logs, it looks like your tablet has
been taken upon directly by the evdev X driver.

Strange thing though is that I did not find your tablet in the
DIGImend list either:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/digimend/index.php?title=Tablet_support_status

It is good that your tablet works well, but I would still suggest you
to contact DIGImend, tell them that your tablet works well out of the
box, though you have no idea why. And give them information about your
tablet (the Xorg output, then whatever they may ask). That may be a
good way to ensure that your tablet support is not an accident and
that it won't disappear in the future.


 The problem may indeed come from the driver rather than Gimp,
 especially if you use the wrong one (do you use the pen a lot outside
 Gimp? Do you have similar issues elsewhere?). Same questions could
 apply to GTK: if you have similar issues on other programs, but only
 GTK ones, may be a bug in the GTK graphical toolkit.


 Similar problem happened in Mypaint, but the problem happened only when
 opening Preference dialog (sometimes), it never happened with Save dialog.
 Except for Mypaint, no other GTK application had this problem, eg. leafpad.


I see, Mypaint looks pretty similar to Gimp though. They may have very
similar piece of codes, so the same bugs. Or maybe that's something in
GTK related to graphical/drawing widgets only.



 For this kind of tablet, you see only a pen input device? Not a pad
 too? (I know this is a special type of machine, where the pad is also
 the screen. So the question is maybe stupid, but as I cannot test
 myself...)


 In Input dialog, there are only 2 device:
 (1) Virtual core xtest pointer
 (2) Waltop Tablet


 I see you mention Gimp 2.4.7 and 2.6. Have you tried with 2.8 (last
 stable version 2.8.2)? Maybe that's fixed there. That would be worth
 installed (or compiled if Debian has no package yet maybe).
 I would say that if there is no easy fix to your issue (like a
 configuration one that we tried), nor a driver issue, installing the
 latter version of Gimp should be the next step to diagnose.

 Jehan


 Thanks for your reminding, I had tested this problem with gimp 2.8.2
 yesterday.
 The pen worked fine with gimp-2.8.2, I have migrated to gimp-2.8.

Good to know it is now fixed!

 Note: this No response to tablet pen problem only happened when meeting
 the About dialog (Help  About).

Do you mean it still happens in 2.8.2, but only in the about dialog?
That's better but probably proves the bug was coming from Gimp code, I
imagine. It must have been fixed in most important parts but not the
about.

 Thanks you.

Enjoy your tablet. :-)

Jehan

 Regards,

 Minshein0330



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