Re: [gmx-users] Ligand_charges

2007-04-11 Thread David van der Spoel

pkmukher wrote:

Hi,


  I am a new user of GROMCAS.I would like to estimate the
partial charges of my ligand using the ChelpG option of the
gaussian program. Could you kindly guide me as to how i
should carry out this calculation. If there are any online
tutorials one this could you kindly direct me to it. Any
other suggestions is also welcome. Thanking you in
anticipation.Prasenjit 


Prasenjit Kumar Mukherjee
Graduate Student
Department of Medicinal Chemistry
School of Pharmacy
University of Mississippi
USA

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[gmx-users] Ligand_charges

2007-04-11 Thread pkmukher
Hi,


  I am a new user of GROMCAS.I would like to estimate the
partial charges of my ligand using the ChelpG option of the
gaussian program. Could you kindly guide me as to how i
should carry out this calculation. If there are any online
tutorials one this could you kindly direct me to it. Any
other suggestions is also welcome. Thanking you in
anticipation.Prasenjit 

Prasenjit Kumar Mukherjee
Graduate Student
Department of Medicinal Chemistry
School of Pharmacy
University of Mississippi
USA

Cell   - 662 380 0146
Office - 662 915 1286 







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[gmx-users] Prot_prep_query

2007-04-11 Thread pkmukher
Hi,

  Thanks for your suggestions. I was using the 0 option
gromos FF in pdb2gmx. As you said the behavior is strange.
However i found a fix. I was using  a 2 step procedure

1) strip hydrogen > output pdb
2) input pdb > write output pdb with -inter flag

instead i used 

1) strip hydrogen > output pdb
2) input pdb > write pdb gro top using -inter flag (gro has
hydrogens, pdb does not)
3) use gro as input > take pdb output (pdb has hydrogens)

Thanks

Prasenjit Kumar Mukherjee
Graduate Student
Department of Medicinal Chemistry
School of Pharmacy
University of Mississippi
USA

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[gmx-users] wall_atomtype

2007-04-11 Thread Manuel Valera
Greetings to All

I have a question about a new feature in the cvs code
and I was wondering if there was anybody who could
give
me a hand of a bit of help.
Thanks in advanced.

I am working on a project that involves simulation of
confined water between two hydrophobic surfaces.
I noticed that recently there was an addition to the
gromacs source code that would allow for this kind of
simulations

I downloaded the cvs source code to try out this new
feature, ran a small simulation of water with pbc=xy
and no surfaces and could see the water evaporate as
was expected

The problems occurs when I need to add surfaces to the

simulation. There are some new variables that I don't
know how to set and I have not been able to figure
this out from the source code.

What are the appropriate values for wall_atomtype?
I want to have a LJ interaction between the wall and
the oxygen atom in
the water molecule.
How can I do this with this new feature?

In the function do_walls we have (file wall.c)

if (ir->wall_type == ewt93) {
  fac_d[w] = ir->wall_density[w]*M_PI/6;
  fac_r[w] = ir->wall_density[w]*M_PI/45;
} else if (ir->wall_type == ewt104) {
  fac_d[w] = ir->wall_density[w]*M_PI/2;
  fac_r[w] = ir->wall_density[w]*M_PI/5;
}

Where are these factor coming from, is there a
reference that I can look at?

What would be appropriate values for the variable
wall_density?

Would these be the appropriate changes to my
grompp.mpd file to get
this feature working of is there anything else that I
need to add?

pbc=xy
nwall=2
wall_type=9-3
wall_atomtype = ? ?
wall_density = ? ?

I apologized if these are too many questions!!

I realized this a very new feature and probably it is
not well tested, yet I would like to try it out and
see if I can use this for my project

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks a lot.
Kind regards,

Manuel Valera






   

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[gmx-users] soft-core potential in combination with PME (sorry, again)

2007-04-11 Thread Jeroen van Bemmelen
Hi all,

After reading several posts on this subject on the mailing list, I'm 
still a bit confused.

In http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2005-
October/017691.html it is more or less suggested that the 
implementation of the soft-core potential for free energy 
calculations in combination with PME is relatively straightforward, 
and is comparable to its implementation when using other treatments 
of long range electrostatics. In addition, the GROMACS manual does 
not mention any differences or problems when using this combination. 
So from this I cautiously conclude that it's fine to use soft-core 
together with PME, that it takes care of the singularity problem (as 
soft-core should), and that it does not lead to additional problems 
(at least not compared to its use with other electrostatic 
treatments).

However, from several discussions on this mailing list (e.g. 
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-June/022388.html) I 
understand there are indeed problems when using this combination of 
parameters. Not only could it lead to convergence problems (which 
could be prevented by using a 3-stage strategy), but it could also 
lead to stability problems because of the singularity at r=0 (for 
which the soft-core potential was invented in the first place). 
Moreover, reference was made to an article by Anwar (J. Chem. Phys., 
122, 224117 (2005)), according to which soft-core in combination with 
PME is still a no-go (unless you use Anwars method, which is 
significantly different from the standard GROMACS soft-core 
implementation). So from this I conclude that the soft-core potential 
for PME has NOT been implemented into GROMACS yet, or at least not in 
a way that solves the singularity problem sufficiently, which is 
contradicting my earlier conclusion.

Obviously, I'm missing or misinterpreting something here. But could 
someone please clear up this subject for me?

Thanks,
Jeroen
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[gmx-users] Re:overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Michael Shirts

How about total energy? In tends to be constant in NVE simulations. I
don't know what the conserved property would be in an NVT simulation.
David.


For most algorithms that give correct ensembles, there are
pseudo-energy properties that are conserved.  For NVE, it's obviously
the energy.  For Nose-Hoover NPT, there's a term involving the "mass"
of the coupling to the heat reservoir that, when added to the scaled
energy term produces a quantity that will be conserved.  For
Parrinello-Rahman dynamics, there's a similar term involving the
coupling to the pressure bath.


It would.
Although I would still argue that when using a thermostat there
is in most cases no "useful" quantity that would be affected
by the current, very small, velocity inaccuracies.
Berk


I think algorithmic self-consistency could generally be justified as
useful.  If one is applying a certain algorithm, it's good to have a
measure of how well that algorithm is being implemented, so one can be
sure that any errors are negligible.  I agree with Berk that such
inaccuracies are small.  But it's good to have a measure of how small
they are built in, just to be sure! :)

Best,
Michael
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Re: [gmx-users] Prot_prep_query

2007-04-11 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
.514398.414389.9
> > -50.5129   -1715.95 Potential  -46818.1
> >   20524.520248.7-341.91-11614.9
> > Kinetic-En.   0  0
> > 0   0  0
> > Total-Energy 0  0  0
> >   0  0
> > Temperature 0  0  0
> >  0  0
> >
> > Why the Total-energy is not the sum of Potential and
> Kinetic-En.?  Thanks!
>
> In a minimization, you have no kinetic energy. Thus the
> potential energy  is the total energy and nobody bothered
> copying over the value.
>
> Mark
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:39:45 +0200
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> I am new to Gromacs.
> I would like to simulate oligoether branched polysiloxanes
> in gromacs. I have the force field availble for the same
> Whether gromacs will support force filed for polymers
> containing hetreo atmos like silicon?
> If so how can I incoroprate this into gromacs?
> and also
> How to get the starting configuration for the
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> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem
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> users  >Subject: Re: [gmx-users]
> overcome the integration problem (installing CVS) >Date:
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> >Yang Ye wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:
> >>>Shalom all,
> >>>
> >>>To my best understanding, there is a correction to the
> single precision >>>integration problem ("A common,
> avoidable source of error in molecular >>>dynamics
> integrators" >>>J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the
> CVS. >>>
> >>>I want to know were can I get it and how to install it.
> First, the >>>GROMACS site is down now. Second from the
> bit I have read, it is not >>>clear to me how to install
> the stable CVS and not an experimentally  >>>version.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Stable version:
> >>cvs -z3 -d
> :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login >>cvs
> -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co
> -r  >>release-3-3-patches gmx
> >>
> >>HEAD Branch
> >>cvs -z3 -d
> :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login >>cvs
> -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co
> gmx >>
> >>>Best,
> >>>Itamar
> >>>
> >The stable version does not have the fix (because it will
> change results). >
> >--
> >David.
>
> I would like to add that for a constant temperature
> ensemble the effect of this fix is neglegible.
> It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.
>
> Berk.
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> > Hi
> >
> > I am new to Gromacs.
> > I would like to simulate oligoether branched
> > polysiloxanes in gromacs. I  have the force field
> > availble for the same Whether gromacs will support force
> > filed for polymers containing hetreo  atmos like
> silicon?
>
> Yes - this information is part of the force field.
>
> > If so how can I incoro

Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Berk Hess





From: "Michael Shirts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:15:08 -0400

Hi, all-


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

Berk.


I think this might need some qualifications. If the constant
temperature dynamics are based inherently on NVE dynamics, they must
be affected similarly.  For example, for Nose-Hoover thermostats,
there exists a conserved quantity.  I would expect that this fix would
also improve that conserved quantity, wouldn't it?



It would.
Although I would still argue that when using a thermostat there
is in most cases no "useful" quantity that would be affected
by the current, very small, velocity inaccuracies.


One feature that would be useful is that for any algorithm that has a
"conserved energy-like" quantity, there should be an entry in the .edr
file with that quantity.  It would be a useful check for algorithmic
consistency.  I don't think this is yet in GROMACS, though I could be
wrong -- I haven't examined the CVS that recently.


It is not (yet) in Gromacs, but it would indeed be useful to have it.

Berk.

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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread David van der Spoel

Michael Shirts wrote:

Hi, all-


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

Berk.


I think this might need some qualifications. If the constant
temperature dynamics are based inherently on NVE dynamics, they must
be affected similarly.  For example, for Nose-Hoover thermostats,
there exists a conserved quantity.  I would expect that this fix would
also improve that conserved quantity, wouldn't it?

One feature that would be useful is that for any algorithm that has a
"conserved energy-like" quantity, there should be an entry in the .edr
file with that quantity.  It would be a useful check for algorithmic
consistency.  I don't think this is yet in GROMACS, though I could be
wrong -- I haven't examined the CVS that recently.


How about total energy? In tends to be constant in NVE simulations. I 
don't know what the conserved property would be in an NVT simulation.


--
David.

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Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,  75124 Uppsala, Sweden
phone:  46 18 471 4205  fax: 46 18 511 755
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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Michael Shirts

Hi, all-


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

Berk.


I think this might need some qualifications. If the constant
temperature dynamics are based inherently on NVE dynamics, they must
be affected similarly.  For example, for Nose-Hoover thermostats,
there exists a conserved quantity.  I would expect that this fix would
also improve that conserved quantity, wouldn't it?

One feature that would be useful is that for any algorithm that has a
"conserved energy-like" quantity, there should be an entry in the .edr
file with that quantity.  It would be a useful check for algorithmic
consistency.  I don't think this is yet in GROMACS, though I could be
wrong -- I haven't examined the CVS that recently.

Best,
Michael Shirts
Research Fellow
Department of Chemistry
Columbia University
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[gmx-users] Prot_prep_query

2007-04-11 Thread pkmukher
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> Yang Ye wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:
> >> Shalom all,
> >>
> >> To my best understanding, there is a correction to the
> single precision >> integration problem ("A common,
> avoidable source of error in molecular >> dynamics
> integrators" >> J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the
> CVS. >>
> >> I want to know were can I get it and how to install it.
> First, the >> GROMACS site is down now. Second from the
> bit I have read, it is not >> clear to me how to install
> the stable CVS and not an experimentally  >> version.
> >>
> >>
> > Stable version:
> > cvs -z3 -d
> > :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login cvs
> -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co
> > -r  release-3-3-patches gmx
> >
> > HEAD Branch
> > cvs -z3 -d
> > :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login cvs
> -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co
> > gmx
> >> Best,
> >> Itamar
> >>
> The stable version does not have the fix (because it will
> change results).
>
> --
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> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:14:55 +1000
> From: Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] question about the total-energy
> of energy
> minimization
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
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> >
> > I run an energy minization, then calculated the energy,
> > obtained the  following results:
> >
> > LJ-(SR)-4431.621905.29
> > 1886.7 -27.08-919.923
> > Coulomb-(SR)  - 35926.514398.414389.9
> > -50.5129   -1715.95 Potential  -46818.1
> >   20524.520248.7-341.91-11614.9
> > Kinetic-En.   0  0
> > 0   0  0
> > Total-Energy 0  0  0
> >   0  0
> > Temperature 0  0  0
> >  0  0
> >
> > Why the Total-energy is not the sum of Potential and
> Kinetic-En.?  Thanks!
>
> In a minimization, you have no kinetic energy. Thus the
> potential energy  is the total energy and nobody bothered
> copying over the value.
>
> Mark
>
>

Re: [gmx-users] Prot_prep_problem

2007-04-11 Thread andrea spitaleri
I apology for the incorrect spelling of your name ...
I have an automatic reply format which sometimes does weird stuff ...
Sorry  Prasenjit, really.

Regards

andrea

andrea spitaleri wrote:
> HI Pkmukher,
> I use to use opls for nmr structures in order to keep the all-hydrogen in the 
> protein and ligand
> too. However if you want to be sticked with gromos ff I do as follow:
> 1. prepare my system with -ignh option in pdb2gmx
> 2. run the simulation
> 3. use protonate over the pdb and the final trr in order to analyze for 
> instance the violated NOE.
> Skip last question, sorry :)
> 
> Regards
> 
> andrea
> 
> pkmukher wrote:
>> Hello gromacs users,
>>
>>
>>   I am facing a particular problem in the preparation of my
>> protein.I have a NMR derived structure with hydrogens. To
>> prepare my protein i thought of a two step procedure
>> 1)stripping the protein of the hydrogens using -ignh and
>> saving pdb output
>> 2)submitting the pdb output file from stage 1 using the
>> -inter flag to get my final .top .gro and .pdb files
>>
>> I find that at the end of step 1 the pdb output is stripped
>> of hydrogens.
>> In the second stage I find that the .top file has the
>> hydrogens listed (only polar hydrogens) but the pdb output
>> is still without any hydrogens.
>>
>> I want to follow the gromacs tutorial titled
>> GROMACS Tutorial for Drug – Enzyme Complex.
>> http://www2.umdnj.edu/~kerrigje/pdf_files/trp_drug_tutor.pdf
>>
>> here they have used a prepared protein pdb file while
>> merging the ligand coordinates to form the final complex.
>>
>> My questions are
>>
>> 1) why the pdb file written in step two does not contain the
>> hydrogens and how can i solve this issue?
>>
>> 2) Is there any other way to prepare the ligand-protein
>> complex without using the protein .pdb output?
>>
>> 3) This is a slightly unrelated question. Could some body
>> guide me to any tutorials etc where they have shown how to
>> calculate gausssian charges for the ligand and then
>> incorporate into the gromacs ligand file?
>>
>> I can provide the protein structure file. I couldnt load it
>> to the group mail because of size limitations
>>
>> Thanking you in anticipation
>>
>> Prasenjit Kumar Mukherjee
>> Graduate Student
>> Department of Medicinal Chemistry
>> School of Pharmacy
>> University of Mississippi
>> USA
>>
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>> Office - 662 915 1286 
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Re: [gmx-users] Prot_prep_problem

2007-04-11 Thread andrea spitaleri
HI Pkmukher,
I use to use opls for nmr structures in order to keep the all-hydrogen in the 
protein and ligand
too. However if you want to be sticked with gromos ff I do as follow:
1. prepare my system with -ignh option in pdb2gmx
2. run the simulation
3. use protonate over the pdb and the final trr in order to analyze for 
instance the violated NOE.
Skip last question, sorry :)

Regards

andrea

pkmukher wrote:
> Hello gromacs users,
> 
> 
>   I am facing a particular problem in the preparation of my
> protein.I have a NMR derived structure with hydrogens. To
> prepare my protein i thought of a two step procedure
> 1)stripping the protein of the hydrogens using -ignh and
> saving pdb output
> 2)submitting the pdb output file from stage 1 using the
> -inter flag to get my final .top .gro and .pdb files
> 
> I find that at the end of step 1 the pdb output is stripped
> of hydrogens.
> In the second stage I find that the .top file has the
> hydrogens listed (only polar hydrogens) but the pdb output
> is still without any hydrogens.
> 
> I want to follow the gromacs tutorial titled
> GROMACS Tutorial for Drug – Enzyme Complex.
> http://www2.umdnj.edu/~kerrigje/pdf_files/trp_drug_tutor.pdf
> 
> here they have used a prepared protein pdb file while
> merging the ligand coordinates to form the final complex.
> 
> My questions are
> 
> 1) why the pdb file written in step two does not contain the
> hydrogens and how can i solve this issue?
> 
> 2) Is there any other way to prepare the ligand-protein
> complex without using the protein .pdb output?
> 
> 3) This is a slightly unrelated question. Could some body
> guide me to any tutorials etc where they have shown how to
> calculate gausssian charges for the ligand and then
> incorporate into the gromacs ligand file?
> 
> I can provide the protein structure file. I couldnt load it
> to the group mail because of size limitations
> 
> Thanking you in anticipation
> 
> Prasenjit Kumar Mukherjee
> Graduate Student
> Department of Medicinal Chemistry
> School of Pharmacy
> University of Mississippi
> USA
> 
> Cell   - 662 380 0146
> Office - 662 915 1286 
> 
> 
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[gmx-users] Prot_prep_problem

2007-04-11 Thread pkmukher
Hello gromacs users,


  I am facing a particular problem in the preparation of my
protein.I have a NMR derived structure with hydrogens. To
prepare my protein i thought of a two step procedure
1)stripping the protein of the hydrogens using -ignh and
saving pdb output
2)submitting the pdb output file from stage 1 using the
-inter flag to get my final .top .gro and .pdb files

I find that at the end of step 1 the pdb output is stripped
of hydrogens.
In the second stage I find that the .top file has the
hydrogens listed (only polar hydrogens) but the pdb output
is still without any hydrogens.

I want to follow the gromacs tutorial titled
GROMACS Tutorial for Drug – Enzyme Complex.
http://www2.umdnj.edu/~kerrigje/pdf_files/trp_drug_tutor.pdf

here they have used a prepared protein pdb file while
merging the ligand coordinates to form the final complex.

My questions are

1) why the pdb file written in step two does not contain the
hydrogens and how can i solve this issue?

2) Is there any other way to prepare the ligand-protein
complex without using the protein .pdb output?

3) This is a slightly unrelated question. Could some body
guide me to any tutorials etc where they have shown how to
calculate gausssian charges for the ligand and then
incorporate into the gromacs ligand file?

I can provide the protein structure file. I couldnt load it
to the group mail because of size limitations

Thanking you in anticipation

Prasenjit Kumar Mukherjee
Graduate Student
Department of Medicinal Chemistry
School of Pharmacy
University of Mississippi
USA

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Re: [gmx-users] Hi all

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Abraham

ann rose wrote:

Hi

I am new to Gromacs.
I would like to simulate oligoether branched polysiloxanes in gromacs. I 
have the force field availble for the same
Whether gromacs will support force filed for polymers containing hetreo 
atmos like silicon?


Yes - this information is part of the force field.


If so how can I incoroprate this into gromacs?


You will need a thorough working knowledge of at least chapter 5 of the 
manual, and plenty from earlier sections. This will also let you assess 
whether the range of functions computed by gromacs is suitable for your 
forcefield.



and also
How to get the starting configuration for the poysiloxanes? ( like .gro, 
.top, .itp files)


.gro files are structure files... you're responsible for generating 
them. Search the mailing list for suggestions.


.top files can be generated by pdb2gmx if you can generate suitable .rtp 
monomers, but life may be messy here for branched polymers... you may 
need to make these by hand.


.itp files are included by .top files and include your basic force field 
files as well as regularly recycled units like solvents... you need to 
make these.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Berk Hess





From: David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:13:13 +0200

Yang Ye wrote:



On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:

Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem ("A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators"
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally 
version.




Stable version:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


HEAD Branch
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co gmx


Best,
Itamar


The stable version does not have the fix (because it will change results).

--
David.


I would like to add that for a constant temperature ensemble the effect
of this fix is neglegible.
It is only useful for constant NVE simulations.

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[gmx-users] Hi all

2007-04-11 Thread ann rose

Hi

I am new to Gromacs.
I would like to simulate oligoether branched polysiloxanes in gromacs. I
have the force field availble for the same
Whether gromacs will support force filed for polymers containing hetreo
atmos like silicon?
If so how can I incoroprate this into gromacs?
and also
How to get the starting configuration for the poysiloxanes? ( like .gro,
.top, .itp files)

Thanking you in advance

ann
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Re: [gmx-users] question about the total-energy of energy minimization

2007-04-11 Thread Mark Abraham

Qiao Baofu wrote:

Hi all,

I run an energy minization, then calculated the energy, obtained the 
following results:


LJ-(SR)-4431.621905.29 1886.7 -27.08   
-919.923

Coulomb-(SR)  - 35926.514398.414389.9   -50.5129   -1715.95
Potential  -46818.120524.520248.7-341.91   
-11614.9
Kinetic-En.   0  0  0  
0  0
Total-Energy 0  0  0  
0  0
Temperature 0  0  0  
0  0


Why the Total-energy is not the sum of Potential and Kinetic-En.?  Thanks!


In a minimization, you have no kinetic energy. Thus the potential energy 
is the total energy and nobody bothered copying over the value.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread David van der Spoel

Yang Ye wrote:



On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:

Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem ("A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators"
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally 
version.


  

Stable version:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


HEAD Branch
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co gmx


Best,
Itamar


The stable version does not have the fix (because it will change results).

--
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Re: [gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Yang Ye



On 4/11/2007 5:52 PM, Dr Itamar Kass wrote:

Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem ("A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators"
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally version.

  

Stable version:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co -r 
release-3-3-patches gmx


HEAD Branch
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs login
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/gmx/cvs co gmx


Best,
Itamar

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[gmx-users] overcome the integration problem (installing CVS)

2007-04-11 Thread Dr Itamar Kass
Shalom all,

To my best understanding, there is a correction to the single precision
integration problem ("A common, avoidable source of error in molecular
dynamics integrators"
J. Chem. Phys. 126, 046101 (2007).) at the CVS.

I want to know were can I get it and how to install it. First, the
GROMACS site is down now. Second from the bit I have read, it is not
clear to me how to install the stable CVS and not an experimentally version.

Best,
Itamar

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization error

2007-04-11 Thread Yang Ye

Check your trajectory to visually check whether it has exploded. This
may lead you to check all your input files, especially the mdp files.

This error may happen even in good settings, but Variable ci shall not
differ much from the desired range. In that case, I will turn Pressure
coupling off nd restart the simulation from an earlier time.

On 4/11/2007 5:13 PM, ?? wrote:

hello,everyone

I am new of gromacs. I am running a sample following the Tutorial for Drug -
Enzyme Complex,which was written by John E.Kerrigan,Ph.D.

When I run the energy minimization ,it has error as followed. 


Range checking error:
Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some
coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
energy seems reasonable before trying again.
  
  
Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been within [ 0 .. 11500 ]

Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users@gromacs.org)


I don't know Why it has such error? What should I do?  Can you help me?


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[gmx-users] energy minimization error

2007-04-11 Thread 李睿
hello,everyone

I am new of gromacs. I am running a sample following the Tutorial for Drug -
Enzyme Complex,which was written by John E.Kerrigan,Ph.D.

When I run the energy minimization ,it has error as followed. 

Range checking error:
Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some
coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
energy seems reasonable before trying again.

  
  
Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been within [ 0 .. 11500 ]
Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users@gromacs.org)


I don't know Why it has such error? What should I do?  Can you help me?


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[gmx-users] question about the total-energy of energy minimization

2007-04-11 Thread Qiao Baofu

Hi all,

I run an energy minization, then calculated the energy, obtained the
following results:

LJ-(SR)-4431.621905.29 1886.7 -27.08   -
919.923
Coulomb-(SR)  -35926.514398.414389.9   -50.5129   -1715.95
Potential  -46818.120524.520248.7-341.91   -
11614.9
Kinetic-En.   0  0  0
0  0
Total-Energy 0  0  0  0
0
Temperature 0  0  0  0
0

Why the Total-energy is not the sum of Potential and Kinetic-En.?  Thanks!
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