Re: [gmx-users] Domain Motion => How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-28 Thread XAvier Periole

You should a have good read at the original papers. They are mentioned on the 
web site. They will answer all your questions. 

On May 28, 2011, at 6:03, Chih-Ying Lin  wrote:

> 
> Hi
> I want to get the rotational axis about the protein domain motion. 
> From the DynDom website => "DynDom is a program to determine domains, hinge 
> axes and hinge bending residues in proteins where two conformations are 
> available."
> 
> Questions: 
> 1. Do the hinge axes represent the rotational axis about the protein domain 
> motion ? 
> 2. From its User created database, domains and hinge bending residues, 
> rotation angles and translation are created. 
> => The rotation angles must be defined as the angle of rotation between 
> two domains based on the hinge axes, right ?
> => The vector of the hinge axes is not given by DynDom website, or I did 
> not find it ???
> => Hinge axes could be obtained from hinge bending axes residues, right 
>   If so, How 
> => How can I get the vector of the hinge axes with the results from 
> DynDom ???
> => I found some papers drawing the hinge axes, can Gromacs help me find 
> and draw the hinge axes 
> => From User created database in the DynDom website, it is showing 
> "Sequence". What does sequence represent ???
> 3. Should I install the program of DynDom and then g_dyndom can be functioned 
> ??? 
> (we need to install DSSP before using do_dssp) 
> 4. From Gromacs manual => "The purpose of this program (g_dyndom) is to 
> interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found by DynDom." 
>What does it mean "to interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found by 
> DynDom" ?
> 
> 
> Thank you
> Lin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: [gmx-users] Domain Motion => How do get the rotational axis
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> Hi
> I want to protein's domain motion.
> I use   g_covarandg_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
> How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
> those eigenvectors?
> 
> I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
> motion.
> How did they make it ?
> 
> 
> Thank you
> Lin
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> Hi Lin,
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> You don't get such axes directly from covariance analysis. If you want
> to know which rotations are associated with a certain eigenvector, you
> have to run a routine like dyndom (http://fizz.cmp.uea.ac.uk/dyndom/)
> on the extreme projections of your trajectory onto an eigenvector.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tsjerk
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[gmx-users] Domain Motion => How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-27 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I want to get the rotational axis about the protein domain motion.
*From the DynDom website => "DynDom* is a program to determine domains,
hinge axes and hinge bending residues in proteins where two conformations
are available."

Questions:
1. Do the hinge axes represent the rotational axis about the protein domain
motion ?
2. From its User created database, domains and hinge bending residues,
rotation angles and translation are created.
=> The rotation angles must be defined as the angle of rotation between
two domains based on the hinge axes, right ?
=> The vector of the hinge axes is not given by DynDom website, or I did
not find it ???
=> Hinge axes could be obtained from hinge bending axes residues, right
  If so, How 
=> How can I get the vector of the hinge axes with the results from
DynDom ???
=> I found some papers drawing the hinge axes, can Gromacs help me find
and draw the hinge axes 
=> From User created database in the DynDom website, it is showing
"Sequence". What does sequence represent ???
3. Should I install the program of DynDom and then g_dyndom can be
functioned ???
(we need to install DSSP before using do_dssp)
4. From Gromacs manual => "The purpose of this program (g_dyndom) is to
interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found by DynDom."
   What does it mean "to interpolate and extrapolate the rotation as found
by DynDom" ?


Thank you
Lin






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Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 19:54:29 -0700
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Subject: [gmx-users] Domain Motion => How do get the rotational axis
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Hi
I want to protein's domain motion.
I use   g_covarandg_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
those eigenvectors?

I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
motion.
How did they make it ?


Thank you
Lin
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Hi Lin,

You don't get such axes directly from covariance analysis. If you want
to know which rotations are associated with a certain eigenvector, you
have to run a routine like dyndom (http://fizz.cmp.uea.ac.uk/dyndom/)
on the extreme projections of your trajectory onto an eigenvector.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
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Re: [gmx-users] Domain Motion => How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-26 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Lin,

You don't get such axes directly from covariance analysis. If you want
to know which rotations are associated with a certain eigenvector, you
have to run a routine like dyndom (http://fizz.cmp.uea.ac.uk/dyndom/)
on the extreme projections of your trajectory onto an eigenvector.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Chih-Ying Lin  wrote:
>
> Hi
> I want to protein's domain motion.
> I use   g_covar    and    g_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
> How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
> those eigenvectors?
> I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
> motion.
> How did they make it ?
>
> Thank you
> Lin
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[gmx-users] Domain Motion => How do get the rotational axis from eigenvectors ?

2011-05-26 Thread Chih-Ying Lin
Hi
I want to protein's domain motion.
I use   g_covarandg_anaeig  to get the eigenvectors.
How can i get the rotational axis of which protein do its domain motion from
those eigenvectors?

I found the papers and the authors plot its rotational axis of domain
motion.
How did they make it ?


Thank you
Lin
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