[gmx-users] Re: Free Energy Calculations in Gromacs

2013-06-12 Thread JW Gibbs
Thanks Justin and Professor Shirts. The gmxdump on the resulting tpr did
indeed solve a lot of my problems. Thanks again.




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[gmx-users] Re: Free Energy Calculations in Gromacs

2013-06-10 Thread JW Gibbs
Hi,

I have been trying to perform the simulations using the amber forcefield, in
which the [ pairtypes ] directive is not defined explicitly in the
ffnonbonded.itp file, but rather the 1-4 interactions are generated as per
the defaults section in the forcefield.itp file. I was wondering what
happens to these 1-4 interactions at lambda=1 state? 

Suppose 1 corresponds to CA and 4 corresponds to NA at state A (lambda = 0)
and the CA_per and NA_per are the corresponding atomtypes at state B (lambda
= 1). 

It is defined in the topology file that

...
...
[ pairs ]

1  4   1



So does it mean that at state B (lambda = 1), the 1-4 nonbonded interactions
will be calculated between CA_per and  NA_per? 

Although the [ pairs_nb ] section is described in the manual, I would
appreciate if someone elaborates a little more. 



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Free Energy Calculations in Gromacs

2013-06-10 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/10/13 2:50 PM, JW Gibbs wrote:

Hi,

I have been trying to perform the simulations using the amber forcefield, in
which the [ pairtypes ] directive is not defined explicitly in the
ffnonbonded.itp file, but rather the 1-4 interactions are generated as per
the defaults section in the forcefield.itp file. I was wondering what
happens to these 1-4 interactions at lambda=1 state?

Suppose 1 corresponds to CA and 4 corresponds to NA at state A (lambda = 0)
and the CA_per and NA_per are the corresponding atomtypes at state B (lambda
= 1).

It is defined in the topology file that

...
...
[ pairs ]

1  4   1



So does it mean that at state B (lambda = 1), the 1-4 nonbonded interactions
will be calculated between CA_per and  NA_per?

Although the [ pairs_nb ] section is described in the manual, I would
appreciate if someone elaborates a little more.



The actual answer depends on exactly how you're treating the system.  Are you 
using [pairs_nb] in your topology or just [pairs]?  The outcome will be 
different depending on which you're using.  Also note that, as the manual says, 
you don't really need to mess with [pairs_nb] at all; you can achieve unscaled 
internal interactions using couple-intramol = no in the .mdp file.  Without 
seeing the .mdp file, it's even more difficult to know what you're doing and 
what you should expect.


-Justin

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Research Scientist
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Free Energy Calculations in Gromacs

2013-06-10 Thread Michael Shirts
An important final point is that you can always see EXACTLY what
grompp is putting into the B state by running gmxdump on the resulting
tpr.  It's a LOT of information, but all in text all the interactions
are listed explicitly there.

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


 On 6/10/13 2:50 PM, JW Gibbs wrote:

 Hi,

 I have been trying to perform the simulations using the amber forcefield,
 in
 which the [ pairtypes ] directive is not defined explicitly in the
 ffnonbonded.itp file, but rather the 1-4 interactions are generated as per
 the defaults section in the forcefield.itp file. I was wondering what
 happens to these 1-4 interactions at lambda=1 state?

 Suppose 1 corresponds to CA and 4 corresponds to NA at state A (lambda =
 0)
 and the CA_per and NA_per are the corresponding atomtypes at state B
 (lambda
 = 1).

 It is defined in the topology file that

 ...
 ...
 [ pairs ]

 1  4   1
 
 

 So does it mean that at state B (lambda = 1), the 1-4 nonbonded
 interactions
 will be calculated between CA_per and  NA_per?

 Although the [ pairs_nb ] section is described in the manual, I would
 appreciate if someone elaborates a little more.


 The actual answer depends on exactly how you're treating the system.  Are
 you using [pairs_nb] in your topology or just [pairs]?  The outcome will be
 different depending on which you're using.  Also note that, as the manual
 says, you don't really need to mess with [pairs_nb] at all; you can achieve
 unscaled internal interactions using couple-intramol = no in the .mdp
 file.  Without seeing the .mdp file, it's even more difficult to know what
 you're doing and what you should expect.

 -Justin

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 Research Scientist
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
 jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
 http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

 

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