Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye
Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.
 
Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none. 
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation 
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ? 
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


= 
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China 

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O) 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.
 
Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=


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Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye
- Original Message 
From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

 It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
 usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
 COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if Linear works for 
 you, you may use it.

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN

Sorry, but I have to ask some more questions. I have just started to perform 
simulations in vacuum. I can understand not using of PME in vacuum simulations; 
however, I can not understand the sentence you wrote :
'rotation is recomended.' COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible.
Is it related to conservation of angular momentum?

Thank you very much!

Oz.
-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

- Original Message 
From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

 It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
 usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
 COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if Linear works for 
 you, you may use it.

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=


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Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye

Hi,

It's about geometry.

Be pragmatic. By inspecting the trajectory, you can which one works. if 
Linear works for your system, use it; otherwise, use rotation. Although 
I prefer to use Rotation for simulations in vacuum in the first place, 
and for first few ns simulation for big protein with explicit solvent.


Regards,
Yang Ye

On 10/15/2007 12:24 AM, OZGE ENGIN wrote:

Sorry, but I have to ask some more questions. I have just started to perform 
simulations in vacuum. I can understand not using of PME in vacuum simulations; 
however, I can not understand the sentence you wrote :
'rotation is recomended.' COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible.
Is it related to conservation of angular momentum?

Thank you very much!

Oz.
-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

- Original Message 
From: OZGE ENGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum simulations.  


Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

  

It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if Linear works for 
you, you may use it.
  


Thanks in advance 


Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gmx-users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass. Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=




  


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