Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
Brian writes: > On 05/13/2010 05:21 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > >> There's a variant of that attack. Sometimes the attacker changes >> the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the >> rest. There's even a special term for that kind of attack: "reseller" > > I've also seen this as a ploy to use an advanced fee fraud. > > Scammer: I have [stuff I want to buy from | work I need done by] you. > Victim: OK. I can do it. Pay me $PRICE > Scammer: Here is ($PRICE+$3000). Please take what you need and wire me > the difference. > > Victim then is expected to move quickly and wire the difference before > the forged check has been determined to be fraudulent. > > I've seen this scam tried on me twice now. It starts out sounding legit > and quickly becomes obvious. Especially if you ever get the "cashier's > check" which is pretty clearly fake. Thank you for your overpayment. I will apply it to the next contract/order. Or I will return it after the work has been completed. Why wire the results back if they didn't wire the funds in the first place? > Brian -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH warl...@mit.eduPGP key available ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
On 05/13/2010 05:21 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > There's a variant of that attack. Sometimes the attacker changes > the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the > rest. There's even a special term for that kind of attack: "reseller" I've also seen this as a ploy to use an advanced fee fraud. Scammer: I have [stuff I want to buy from | work I need done by] you. Victim: OK. I can do it. Pay me $PRICE Scammer: Here is ($PRICE+$3000). Please take what you need and wire me the difference. Victim then is expected to move quickly and wire the difference before the forged check has been determined to be fraudulent. I've seen this scam tried on me twice now. It starts out sounding legit and quickly becomes obvious. Especially if you ever get the "cashier's check" which is pretty clearly fake. Brian ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
Benjamin Scott writes: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen > wrote: > > Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the > > economy? > > > > e.g.: they pose as a contractor and establish a contract with a client, > > while posing as the client to establish a contract with the contractor; > > the job gets done, and the money gets paid... just into the scammer's > > account rather than the contractor's. > > There's a variant of that attack. Sometimes the attacker changes > the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the > rest. There's even a special term for that kind of attack: "reseller" > > HHOS. AKA: "middle man". But this is the actual news-story that I was remembering: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/08/10/22/1828256/For-3-Years-Scammers-Ran-Truckless-Trucking-Company?art_pos=1 -- "Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr." ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy? > > e.g.: they pose as a contractor and establish a contract with a client, > while posing as the client to establish a contract with the contractor; > the job gets done, and the money gets paid... just into the scammer's > account rather than the contractor's. There's a variant of that attack. Sometimes the attacker changes the prices reported, pockets the difference, and passes along the rest. There's even a special term for that kind of attack: "reseller" HHOS. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
> Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy? Hello, Kindest warm greetings and felicitations; you have not previously been knowing me but I was the personal assistant of Ben Bernanke and I need your help in extracting a large sum of money from the Broadband Stimulus Fund, an undertaking for which you will be generously remunerated ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam?
Warren Luebkeman writes: > > Actually I have seen this before...They are using a legit company and posing > as employees of the organization. I saw one like this a while ago where they > actually cloned a businesses website on a slightly different domain. Clever > clever.. > > Or I am missing out on a huge opportunity... Is this the one where they execute a man-in-the-middle attack on the economy? e.g.: they pose as a contractor and establish a contract with a client, while posing as the client to establish a contract with the contractor; the job gets done, and the money gets paid... just into the scammer's account rather than the contractor's. I guess you'd be seeing the `pose as the client' side of the scam, here; someone else is presumably seeing the other side, or at least would be if you responded affirmatively to the inquiry as a supplier. Actually..., you know all of those `cheap printer supplies!' spams? Maybe that's the other side of this, and you're actually seeing both sides run in parallel on the same pool of potential victims. > - Original Message - > From: "Michael ODonnell" > To: "Warren Luebkeman" > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:28:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # > CII0675) > > > > >What fun! Let us know what you find out. And you're apparently > >not the first: > > > > http://radialmonster.com/blog/archives/2009/07/06/332/ > > ??? > >http://www.inside-cable.net/broadstimulusDEB1009.pdf > >http://www.inside-cable.net/index.htm > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > -- "Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr." ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # CII0675)
Actually I have seen this before...They are using a legit company and posing as employees of the organization. I saw one like this a while ago where they actually cloned a businesses website on a slightly different domain. Clever clever.. Or I am missing out on a huge opportunity... Warren Luebkeman Partner, COO 888.357.9195 www.resara.com - Original Message - From: "Michael ODonnell" To: "Warren Luebkeman" Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:28:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [OT] CableInside possible spam/scam? (was: Purchase order # CII0675) >What fun! Let us know what you find out. And you're apparently >not the first: > > http://radialmonster.com/blog/archives/2009/07/06/332/ ??? http://www.inside-cable.net/broadstimulusDEB1009.pdf http://www.inside-cable.net/index.htm ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
