Re: Inventory system design: proposal:

2007-10-10 Thread Josh Sled
Lianto Ruyang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 - how to make the select-dialog can show items quickly (i imagine if the
 items are in thousands the tree-view will be very slow)

I'd not worry about this.  As a anecdotal data-point, GPMC [¹] handles 16k
items in my full playlist without even blinking an eye.

[¹] http://sarine.nl/gmpc

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Inventory system design: proposal:

2007-10-09 Thread Lianto Ruyang
Hello Everyone,

I want to add an inventory system to gnucash. After looking at the code and
considering how i want it to be, i come up with the following design:

inventory-system:
* core
 - Item { name, sell-price, buy-price, quantity, description, item_group,
asset-account, expense-account,
   income-account }
 - Item_group { name, list_of_item }

* ui
 - input-dialog
 - select-dialog (A tree-view of Item_groups, and inside each Item_group
are the Items)
 - invoice (Press Enter in the description register will pop-up the
select-dialog)

* report (profit of each item, qty of each item, etc)
* backend (xml??)

The Item and Item_group object will be derived from QofInstance, so they
will be queryable. Above are informations which i think is needed most for
those objects.
The 'asset-account', 'expense-account', and 'income-account' will be useful
in filling the invoice. After a user select an Item from select-dialog,
the account columns and price columns can be automatically filled.
The dialogs can be created using glade.

There are a lot of problems which i choose to put aside for now (because it
gives me too much headache :) such as
- how to make the select-dialog can show items quickly (i imagine if the
items are in thousands the tree-view will be very slow)
- is it allright to modify the current invoice, or is it better to make
another special invoice for inventory?
and lots lots of other things which hasn't occured to me just now. Not to
mention how to write the code :)

Please tell me your opinion (any opinion!!) and thoughts. I've never
involved in opensource software development before, lot of stuff to learn.
Hope it 's ok.
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RE: Inventory system design: proposal:

2007-10-09 Thread rboyd

Two quick comments.  Maybe include a SKU # field, and change buy-price
to cost (cost of goods sold), since manufactured items could be in
inventory.



  Original Message 
 Subject: Inventory system design: proposal:
 From: Lianto Ruyang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, October 09, 2007 9:15 am
 To: gnucash developer gnucash-devel@gnucash.org
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I want to add an inventory system to gnucash. After looking at the code and
 considering how i want it to be, i come up with the following design:
 
 inventory-system:
 * core
  - Item { name, sell-price, buy-price, quantity, description, item_group,
 asset-account, expense-account,
income-account }
  - Item_group { name, list_of_item }
 
 * ui
  - input-dialog
  - select-dialog (A tree-view of Item_groups, and inside each Item_group
 are the Items)
  - invoice (Press Enter in the description register will pop-up the
 select-dialog)
 
 * report (profit of each item, qty of each item, etc)
 * backend (xml??)
 
 The Item and Item_group object will be derived from QofInstance, so they
 will be queryable. Above are informations which i think is needed most for
 those objects.
 The 'asset-account', 'expense-account', and 'income-account' will be useful
 in filling the invoice. After a user select an Item from select-dialog,
 the account columns and price columns can be automatically filled.
 The dialogs can be created using glade.
 
 There are a lot of problems which i choose to put aside for now (because it
 gives me too much headache :) such as
 - how to make the select-dialog can show items quickly (i imagine if the
 items are in thousands the tree-view will be very slow)
 - is it allright to modify the current invoice, or is it better to make
 another special invoice for inventory?
 and lots lots of other things which hasn't occured to me just now. Not to
 mention how to write the code :)
 
 Please tell me your opinion (any opinion!!) and thoughts. I've never
 involved in opensource software development before, lot of stuff to learn.
 Hope it 's ok.
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Re: Inventory system design: proposal:

2007-10-09 Thread Beth Leonard
Hi,

I'm hoping to answer your question by giving you some use-case
scenarios.

I am not an accountant, but I do have a friend who is going through
accounting school, and I have a small business for which my
accountant asks me every April how much inventory of raw materials
I had in stock on December 31st, and how much it cost me to buy.
(I bought several years worth a few years ago when it was being
discontinued.)  This has always been a very difficult question
for me to answer, and I can hope that GnuCash could one day help
with it.

I buy raw DVD blanks and cases, and I sell finished DVDs.  When
I make a finished DVD I decrease the number of blanks
and cases by 1 (sometimes more if there was a mis-burn) and I
increase the number of finished DVDs to sell.  When I sell
a finished DVD, I decrease the number of finished DVDs by 1.
My accountant seems to care about the dollar value of blanks
and cases, but not the dollar value of unsold finished DVDs.
I'm sure there exists a scenario where someone would need a
report that cared about the value of the unsold finished ones.

There are several ways to account for inventory, and my friend
describes them here:
http://ricevermicelli.livejournal.com/202793.html
http://ricevermicelli.livejournal.com/203247.html

Right now it's making my head hurt, but I think it means that
inventory needs to be associated with a date as well.  And that
there needs to somewhere be a way to have an annual inflation
index for the use of the reports.  (Perhaps stored in the priceDB?)

--Beth
Beth Leonard
http://www.LeonardFamilyVideos.com

On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:15:10PM +0700, Lianto Ruyang wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I want to add an inventory system to gnucash. After looking at the code and
 considering how i want it to be, i come up with the following design:
 
 inventory-system:
 * core
  - Item { name, sell-price, buy-price, quantity, description, item_group,
 asset-account, expense-account,
income-account }
  - Item_group { name, list_of_item }
 
 * ui
  - input-dialog
  - select-dialog (A tree-view of Item_groups, and inside each Item_group
 are the Items)
  - invoice (Press Enter in the description register will pop-up the
 select-dialog)
 
 * report (profit of each item, qty of each item, etc)
 * backend (xml??)
 
 The Item and Item_group object will be derived from QofInstance, so they
 will be queryable. Above are informations which i think is needed most for
 those objects.
 The 'asset-account', 'expense-account', and 'income-account' will be useful
 in filling the invoice. After a user select an Item from select-dialog,
 the account columns and price columns can be automatically filled.
 The dialogs can be created using glade.
 
 There are a lot of problems which i choose to put aside for now (because it
 gives me too much headache :) such as
 - how to make the select-dialog can show items quickly (i imagine if the
 items are in thousands the tree-view will be very slow)
 - is it allright to modify the current invoice, or is it better to make
 another special invoice for inventory?
 and lots lots of other things which hasn't occured to me just now. Not to
 mention how to write the code :)
 
 Please tell me your opinion (any opinion!!) and thoughts. I've never
 involved in opensource software development before, lot of stuff to learn.
 Hope it 's ok.
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Re: Inventory system design: proposal:

2007-10-09 Thread Lianto Ruyang
Thanks for the inputs.
I guess i'll have to look more at the engine about pricedb and lots

On 10/10/07, Beth Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm hoping to answer your question by giving you some use-case
 scenarios.

 I am not an accountant, but I do have a friend who is going through
 accounting school, and I have a small business for which my
 accountant asks me every April how much inventory of raw materials
 I had in stock on December 31st, and how much it cost me to buy.
 (I bought several years worth a few years ago when it was being
 discontinued.)  This has always been a very difficult question
 for me to answer, and I can hope that GnuCash could one day help
 with it.

 I buy raw DVD blanks and cases, and I sell finished DVDs.  When
 I make a finished DVD I decrease the number of blanks
 and cases by 1 (sometimes more if there was a mis-burn) and I
 increase the number of finished DVDs to sell.  When I sell
 a finished DVD, I decrease the number of finished DVDs by 1.
 My accountant seems to care about the dollar value of blanks
 and cases, but not the dollar value of unsold finished DVDs.
 I'm sure there exists a scenario where someone would need a
 report that cared about the value of the unsold finished ones.

 There are several ways to account for inventory, and my friend
 describes them here:
 http://ricevermicelli.livejournal.com/202793.html
 http://ricevermicelli.livejournal.com/203247.html

 Right now it's making my head hurt, but I think it means that
 inventory needs to be associated with a date as well.  And that
 there needs to somewhere be a way to have an annual inflation
 index for the use of the reports.  (Perhaps stored in the priceDB?)

 --Beth
 Beth Leonard
 http://www.LeonardFamilyVideos.com

 On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:15:10PM +0700, Lianto Ruyang wrote:
  Hello Everyone,
 
  I want to add an inventory system to gnucash. After looking at the code
 and
  considering how i want it to be, i come up with the following design:
 
  inventory-system:
  * core
   - Item { name, sell-price, buy-price, quantity, description,
 item_group,
  asset-account, expense-account,
 income-account }
   - Item_group { name, list_of_item }
 
  * ui
   - input-dialog
   - select-dialog (A tree-view of Item_groups, and inside each
 Item_group
  are the Items)
   - invoice (Press Enter in the description register will pop-up the
  select-dialog)
 
  * report (profit of each item, qty of each item, etc)
  * backend (xml??)
 
  The Item and Item_group object will be derived from QofInstance, so
 they
  will be queryable. Above are informations which i think is needed most
 for
  those objects.
  The 'asset-account', 'expense-account', and 'income-account' will be
 useful
  in filling the invoice. After a user select an Item from
 select-dialog,
  the account columns and price columns can be automatically filled.
  The dialogs can be created using glade.
 
  There are a lot of problems which i choose to put aside for now (because
 it
  gives me too much headache :) such as
  - how to make the select-dialog can show items quickly (i imagine if the
  items are in thousands the tree-view will be very slow)
  - is it allright to modify the current invoice, or is it better to make
  another special invoice for inventory?
  and lots lots of other things which hasn't occured to me just now. Not
 to
  mention how to write the code :)
 
  Please tell me your opinion (any opinion!!) and thoughts. I've never
  involved in opensource software development before, lot of stuff to
 learn.
  Hope it 's ok.
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