Re: For UK users: Will gnucash get ready for Making Tax, Digital ?

2017-08-15 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I see what you mean now... this seems similar to the copyright
related laws in China (which unfortunatelly make GPL'd software in a state
similar to public domain), there was a debate about this in
libreplanet-discuss
([[https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bsubject%3A%7Bsuggestion%2Fhelp.+GPL+enforcement.%7D&submit=Search%21&idxname=libreplanet-discuss&max=20&result=normal&sort=date%3Alate]]),
and so far, it's considered that, in the case of China, an *inside*
change is needed, although it doesn't turn the software as non-free, it
does pose a problem for GPL enforcement in China.

I guess the same *inside* intervention is needed in the case of those
affected by Making Tax Digital.

I guess the proccess of MTD could be simplified if the signature check
would be made against the accountant's signature (the person responsible
for things like: registering the transactions, checking if the
transactions registered by third-parties are correct, closing the
periodic book, and so on). The files produced by such accountant could
be signed using techniques like GnuPG.

However, I would like to note that it's important to avoid signing
techniques such as CAdES, XAdES and PAdES, because:

- I don't know if there is free/libre firmware that works with signing
  tokens.

- I don't know if there is free/libre module/driver that is able to
  interact with the token's firmware.

- I don't know if there is free/libre software that is able to
  understand how to understand, define and call basic operations
  concerning these standards.

This was indeed a recent debate during FLISoL 2017 Balneário Camboriú
([[https://flisol.info/FLISOL2017/Brasil/BalnearioCamboriu]]), a free
software event that happened in the city of Balneário Camboriú, Santa
Catarina, Brazil, Latin America. In that event, those involved noticed
the lack of knowledge of the existance of free/libre software to deal
with these standards.

Buddha Buck  writes:

> As far as I am aware, there shouldn't be any licensing issues on the FOSS
> side about including a government-granted key in the distribution. There are
> severe technical issues, which may impact licensing, in keeping the
> government-granted key a secret. Since the last bit is the important part, as
> far as the government key-granter is concerned, it becomes a problem. The
> nature of FOSS doesn't prevent people from making derivatives of the software
> and use the same key, which is also a problem as far as the government
> key-granter is concerned.
>
> There are also philosophical issues with creating FOSS software you can't
> change without breaking functionality, which the government-granted
> key-branding of authorized software would do. From the government
> key-grantor's perspective, changing the software invalidates the key, even if
> there isn't any way for them to tell. If it's illegal to use an invalid key
> (or a key from a different software package), then merely doing what FOSS is
> intended to allow you to do is breaking the law. If there's no way to modify
> a piece of FOSS software legally, is it really FOSS? I think not.
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:40 PM Adonay Felipe Nogueira
>  wrote:
>
>  Just to make usre that I'm clear: My last message about keeping *my*
>  mouth closed was a way to tell that *I* won't comment on that for now
>  because I'd still have to study and gather proof. That is: That message
>  was not meant to be harsh towards someone.
>
>  I hope this helps. :)
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Re: Duplicate transactions & OFX imports

2017-08-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 August 2017 at 00:33, David Carlson  wrote:
> Hi Actinistia,
> ...
> Fox (how can I turn SSO off?) import assistant tends to be rather error
> prone during the matching step so double chEC andtriple check before
> accepting.
>
> This will probably be the last time I use the Android version of Gmail to
> compose an email

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punctuation) after a word. If you immediately backspace it will revert
the spelling, then hit space again to carry on.

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Re: Fwd: Re: GNUCash as a maintenance project?

2017-08-15 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, I agree. :)

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Re: Gnucash limitation from accountant perspective

2017-08-15 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 8/14/2017 11:08 AM, seng wrote:

Hi,

I recently let my business's bookkeeping done by Gnucash with the help of an
accountant. She is familiar with Tally (a famous accounting package used
herein India) and new to Gnucash. She feels several key/core functionality
are missing in Gnucash which are found in Tally. I'd like to know whether
they really got missed or she has trouble recognizing those features in
Gnucash.

Trouble recognizing features

1) When I tried to extract Profit and loss report for 1-4-2017 to 31- 03
2017, the end date automatically changes to 02/27/1899

Not knowing how to set begin and end date for the "Income Statement" report

2)Gnu cash mixes everything in a single page, which is not correct from
accounting point of view. Profit and Loss should be disclosed separately and
Balance sheet should be disclosed separately.
Page breaks can be arranged for. I never bother doing this INSIDE 
gnucash as I am always exporting the raw reports so that they can be 
edited << and THERE is where I can make different things different font 
size, make bold, etc. including where I want page breaks >>


3) Profit and loss should show income and expenditure: Balance sheet show
assets and liabilites: Hence Gnu cash is lacking this point, as far as I'm
concerned
Huh? WHAT reports are you running? In any case, P&L should show income 
and expenses. An "expenditure" might not be an expense. I find it very 
hard to believe that an accountant would imagine it had to be.


4) If we want to know the profit for any month, we may find it difficult to
arrive at
No, you can have any start and stop date you specify. Start on the first 
of the month and end on the last of that month.



Michael D Novack

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Re: Duplicate transactions & OFX imports

2017-08-15 Thread Maf. King
On Tuesday, 15 August 2017 00:41:37 BST Actinistia wrote:

> > Presumably I would still classify interest accrued on credit cards as an
> > expense?

Hi,

Yes,  interest charged by the CCard company should be a transfer from 
Liability:CreditCard to Expense:Interest:CardInterest (account names up to 
you, of course)

Cheers,
Maf.
 
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