Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-23 Thread davidbrown.rdps
A quick question regards "Save As"   I find that there is quite a delay
in the SaveAs dialog box appearing and the main window shows "Not
Responding".  Is that a normal delay all users find?

Regards

David


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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-22 Thread Kalpesh Patel
Few years back I imported about 20+ years' worth of Quicken data that had
been accumulated over time that was in Quicken 2017 on Windows. There were
number of lessons I had learned and shared here for others in the past
(google search terms: "site:lists.gnucash.org quicken"). 

While I do not know particulars about Quicken 2002 (is that a typo?), here
are general guidelines I recommend following which is what I formulated for
Quicken 2017:

- Clean up the Quicken file first --- In Quicken validate first followed by
create copy, followed by validation of that copied file and continue doing
so until no errors are in the file for at least two rounds.
- Don't try to export/import anything other than transactions from Quicken
(exception below).
- Reset your security price history if you can as event (buy, sell, etc.)
related prices will come over no problem. You can always import historical
prices into GNC by other means afterwards.
- Create your account hierarchy manually in GNC or by other means before
importing (I did not go with the method of account list export from Quicken
and import it into GNC so YMMV).
- Import securities as part of the import as-is, bulk create them during
import  and then modify after all transactions have imported correctly.
- Order of export/import to maintain: largest to smallest account size with
investment account first, banking accounts second, and lastly credit card
and/or loan accounts. If you can break it up into smaller chunks (one year
worth then better, or best is to create a year-end file in Quicken and then
perform import from that new year file with this stated order)
- Export one account at a time from Quicken then import that single account
into Quicken; never export all accounts in one qif file!  Follow Liz's
divide-&-conquer (binary split) approach on fixing a qif file if it errors
out but don't change the order from what is mentions in the previous step.
- Make a backup copy every time an import has worked. This will allow you to
go back if there is large set of incorrect import on the next account
without the loss of work up to the point it has worked. This will let you
build upon it until all have been moved over.
- Don't expect everything to look correctly after import is completed. In
GNC transactions, account and many other things can be moved around and
re-parented without much complex work that otherwise would be needed in
Quicken so get transactions over into an accounts in GNC and move on to
importing/exporting next account.
- Pay attention to the way dates are formatted for years before 2000, and
years 2000 and after if you are on Windows Quicken. Make them consistent
(programmatically) before importing them if you see them differently
formatted. GNC likes only one and consistent format throughout qif file.

 Hope this helps.


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Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 10:22:10 -0500
From: jhoe...@googlemail.com
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Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last
    message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"
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Good idea! Thanks, Jan

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
On Behalf Of Liz Dodd
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 4:14 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message
"Transaction with no or only one associated account"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:12:23 -0500
Jan via gnucash-user  wrote:

> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only 
> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends 
> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last 
> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one 
> associated account".

One method of approaching this is the binary split method.
Instead of all 2022, split it into two parts, try importing one.
If it fails, ignore it, and try the other one.
Split the one that fails...

Repeat until you find the problem, then deal with the problem.


We do suggest importing small files sequentially to train the importer, so
you may choose to stick with small files until 2022 is finished.


Liz
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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-22 Thread Jan via gnucash-user
Good idea! Thanks, Jan

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
On Behalf Of Liz Dodd
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 4:14 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message
"Transaction with no or only one associated account"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:12:23 -0500
Jan via gnucash-user  wrote:

> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only 
> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends 
> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last 
> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one 
> associated account".

One method of approaching this is the binary split method.
Instead of all 2022, split it into two parts, try importing one.
If it fails, ignore it, and try the other one.
Split the one that fails...

Repeat until you find the problem, then deal with the problem.


We do suggest importing small files sequentially to train the importer, so
you may choose to stick with small files until 2022 is finished.


Liz
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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-21 Thread Liz Dodd
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:12:23 -0500
Jan via gnucash-user  wrote:

> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only
> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends
> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last
> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one
> associated account". 

One method of approaching this is the binary split method.
Instead of all 2022, split it into two parts, try importing one.
If it fails, ignore it, and try the other one.
Split the one that fails...

Repeat until you find the problem, then deal with the problem.


We do suggest importing small files sequentially to train the
importer, so you may choose to stick with small files until 2022 is
finished.


Liz
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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-21 Thread R Losey
I think windows keeps a console log file somewhere, but it may not be easy
to find.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 8:50 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:

> On windows you might not get console output, which might make it harder to
> debug this.
>
> See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile about the Trace File.
>
> -derek
>
> On Sat, January 21, 2023 9:40 am, jhoe...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Thanks, Derek.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm using a brand new laptop on Windows 10 with all updates and GnuCash
> > 4.13. I’ve copied below the last screenshot (but it may not come
> through).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The only files with “trace” in my GnuCash Folders are from June 2020 – so
> > won’t have anything to do with my problem. I currently have zero data in
> > GnuCash  - didn’t even go past the initial three options screen (set up
> > account …).
> >
> > Can you provide more details what to look for where or any suggestions
> > regarding below three questions?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again, Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Derek Atkins 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:20 AM
> > To: jhoe...@googlemail.com
> > Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message
> > "Transaction with no or only one associated account"
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > What OS/Distro are you using?
> >
> > What version of GnuCash?
> >
> >
> >
> > There are two places to look for output:  the command-line (stdout) and
> > your GnuCash Trace file.  I would look in both places for signs of a
> stack
> > trace.
> >
> >
> >
> > -derek
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, January 21, 2023 9:12 am, Jan via gnucash-user wrote:
> >
> >> Happy Weekend, guys!
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only
> >
> >> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends
> >
> >> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last
> >
> >> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one
> >
> >> associated account". This may be related to an earlier message
> >
> >> "Investment action: Unrecognized action 'XAus'" which comes from an
> >
> >> unusual way to post some stock transfers in Quicken.
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Questions:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> 1.Should I work on eliminating / changing the transactions in
> >> Quicken
> >
> >> so that they don't lead to an error in GnuCash - or is that just
> >
> >> likely a wasted effort as the upload will probably continue to fail?
> >
> >> 2.I exported everything (accounts, categories = subaccounts,
> >
> >> transactions, scheduled transactions .) to the QIF file. Should I
> >
> >> import one after the other?
> >
> >> 3.Any other suggestions? (Maybe also regarding Quicken 2002
> >> German
> >
> >> Version - there seems to be some Windows update that makes Quicken not
> >
> >> start any more. It happened to me on two separate laptops and I now
> >
> >> only have Quicken running on one single machine that I disconnected
> >
> >> from the internet
> >
> >> ;-)
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Thanks for any help, Jan
> >
> >>
> >
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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-21 Thread Derek Atkins
On windows you might not get console output, which might make it harder to
debug this.

See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile about the Trace File.

-derek

On Sat, January 21, 2023 9:40 am, jhoe...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Thanks, Derek.
>
>
>
> I'm using a brand new laptop on Windows 10 with all updates and GnuCash
> 4.13. I’ve copied below the last screenshot (but it may not come through).
>
>
>
>
>
> The only files with “trace” in my GnuCash Folders are from June 2020 – so
> won’t have anything to do with my problem. I currently have zero data in
> GnuCash  - didn’t even go past the initial three options screen (set up
> account …).
>
> Can you provide more details what to look for where or any suggestions
> regarding below three questions?
>
>
>
> Thanks again, Jan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Derek Atkins 
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2023 9:20 AM
> To: jhoe...@googlemail.com
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message
> "Transaction with no or only one associated account"
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> What OS/Distro are you using?
>
> What version of GnuCash?
>
>
>
> There are two places to look for output:  the command-line (stdout) and
> your GnuCash Trace file.  I would look in both places for signs of a stack
> trace.
>
>
>
> -derek
>
>
>
> On Sat, January 21, 2023 9:12 am, Jan via gnucash-user wrote:
>
>> Happy Weekend, guys!
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only
>
>> tried to upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends
>
>> abruptly (program vanishes completely) at the import step. The last
>
>> message I see on the screen is "Transaction with no or only one
>
>> associated account". This may be related to an earlier message
>
>> "Investment action: Unrecognized action 'XAus'" which comes from an
>
>> unusual way to post some stock transfers in Quicken.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Questions:
>
>>
>
>> 1.Should I work on eliminating / changing the transactions in
>> Quicken
>
>> so that they don't lead to an error in GnuCash - or is that just
>
>> likely a wasted effort as the upload will probably continue to fail?
>
>> 2.I exported everything (accounts, categories = subaccounts,
>
>> transactions, scheduled transactions .) to the QIF file. Should I
>
>> import one after the other?
>
>> 3.Any other suggestions? (Maybe also regarding Quicken 2002
>> German
>
>> Version - there seems to be some Windows update that makes Quicken not
>
>> start any more. It happened to me on two separate laptops and I now
>
>> only have Quicken running on one single machine that I disconnected
>
>> from the internet
>
>> ;-)
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Thanks for any help, Jan
>
>>
>
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Re: [GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-21 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

What OS/Distro are you using?
What version of GnuCash?

There are two places to look for output:  the command-line (stdout) and
your GnuCash Trace file.  I would look in both places for signs of a stack
trace.

-derek

On Sat, January 21, 2023 9:12 am, Jan via gnucash-user wrote:
> Happy Weekend, guys!
>
>
>
> I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only tried
> to
> upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends abruptly (program
> vanishes completely) at the import step. The last message I see on the
> screen is "Transaction with no or only one associated account". This may
> be
> related to an earlier message "Investment action: Unrecognized action
> 'XAus'" which comes from an unusual way to post some stock transfers in
> Quicken.
>
>
>
> Questions:
>
> 1.Should I work on eliminating / changing the transactions in Quicken
> so that they don't lead to an error in GnuCash - or is that just likely a
> wasted effort as the upload will probably continue to fail?
> 2.I exported everything (accounts, categories = subaccounts,
> transactions, scheduled transactions .) to the QIF file. Should I import
> one
> after the other?
> 3.Any other suggestions? (Maybe also regarding Quicken 2002 German
> Version - there seems to be some Windows update that makes Quicken not
> start
> any more. It happened to me on two separate laptops and I now only have
> Quicken running on one single machine that I disconnected from the
> internet
> ;-)
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help, Jan
>
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[GNC] QIF upload ends abruptly at import step, last message "Transaction with no or only one associated account"

2023-01-21 Thread Jan via gnucash-user
Happy Weekend, guys!

 

I do have 20+ years of Quicken 2002 data (German Version), but only tried to
upload 2022 to GnuCash via a QIF down-/upload. It ends abruptly (program
vanishes completely) at the import step. The last message I see on the
screen is "Transaction with no or only one associated account". This may be
related to an earlier message "Investment action: Unrecognized action
'XAus'" which comes from an unusual way to post some stock transfers in
Quicken.

 

Questions:

1.  Should I work on eliminating / changing the transactions in Quicken
so that they don't lead to an error in GnuCash - or is that just likely a
wasted effort as the upload will probably continue to fail?
2.  I exported everything (accounts, categories = subaccounts,
transactions, scheduled transactions .) to the QIF file. Should I import one
after the other?
3.  Any other suggestions? (Maybe also regarding Quicken 2002 German
Version - there seems to be some Windows update that makes Quicken not start
any more. It happened to me on two separate laptops and I now only have
Quicken running on one single machine that I disconnected from the internet
;-)

 

Thanks for any help, Jan  

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