OT: MFT and posting via gmane (was: Re: 2.x)

2013-12-27 Thread Jens Lechtenboerger 
Hi there,

I’m posting this via gmane with header “Mail-Copies-To: never”,
which should be translated to an MFT header by Gmane (see
http://gmane.org/post.php).

From the Message manual:
For instance, if you're running Gnus and wish to insert a
`Mail-Copies-To' header in all your news articles and all messages
you send to mailing lists, you could do something like the
following:

(defun my-message-header-setup-hook ()
  (let ((group (or gnus-newsgroup-name "")))
(when (or (message-fetch-field "newsgroups")
  (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'to-address)
  (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'to-list))
  (insert "Mail-Copies-To: never\n"

(add-hook 'message-header-setup-hook
  'my-message-header-setup-hook)

Best wishes
Jens


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Re: 2.x

2013-12-23 Thread Uwe Brauer 
>> "Jens" == Jens Lechtenboerger
>>  writes: 

   > On So, Dez 22 2013, Uwe Brauer wrote:
   >> "Jens" == Jens Lechtenboerger
   >> > P.S. Do you know Mail-Followup-To (MFT)?
   >> Do you find this annoying?

   > MFT has benefits: If I reply to a message with MFT, the To header
   > is automatically directed to the list (instead of the From e-mail
   > address).  A small joy ;) Moreover, with MFT I know whether you
   > would like to receive a separate copy for replies or not.

I still don't understand. I am not subscribed to this mailing list and
use the gmane interface.
So this message is sent to a (virtual) newsgroup, and maybe
mail-followup does not make sense there?


I have set message-use-followup-to and message-use-mail-followup-to to
'use, but it does not do a thing.

I could use message-goto-followup-to, but then which what I am supposed
to insert.

regards

Uwe Brauer 


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(OT) Mail-Followup-To or not? (was Re: 2.x)

2013-12-22 Thread Peter Lebbing 
On 22/12/13 19:36, Jens Lechtenboerger wrote:
> Moreover, with MFT I know whether you would like to receive a separate
> copy for replies or not.

You could also interpret the absence of any headers indicating otherwise that
the person might not care enough about that to set headers.

My 2 cents,

Peter.

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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread Jens Lechtenboerger 
On So, Dez 22 2013, Uwe Brauer wrote:

> "Jens" == Jens Lechtenboerger
>> P.S. Do you know Mail-Followup-To (MFT)?
>
> hm, I am reading this group via gmane (and news) I use simply 
> gnus-summary-followup-with-original which results in a mail 
> to  Newsgroups: gmane.comp.encryption.gpg.user

I don’t know about that.

> Do you find this annoying?

MFT has benefits: If I reply to a message with MFT, the To header is
automatically directed to the list (instead of the From e-mail address).
A small joy ;)
Moreover, with MFT I know whether you would like to receive a separate
copy for replies or not.

Best wishes
Jens

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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread Uwe Brauer 
>> "Tristan" == Tristan Santore  writes:

   > On 22/12/13 17:24, Uwe Brauer wrote:
    "K" == K Raven  writes:

   > You being German has nothing to do with the fact you can read it. I am
   > British, I can also read it.
   > ;-p

Correct, but, being German :-D, it would  have been very odd, if I were
not able to read it.. 


PS
And I presume my  name is most likely be an unique German name (it exists
in Scandinavian countries but with different spellings.)


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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread Tristan Santore 
On 22/12/13 17:24, Uwe Brauer wrote:
>>> "K" == K Raven  writes:
>> Hi,
>
>> I'm using Kubuntu (13.10) too and because many packets depend on gnupg,
>> i use the Alternatives system to leave gnupg1 installed and use gnupg2
>> in parallel. You can see that on
>>  (in German, but
>> the commandos are readable). Sure, you must repeat the steps after gnupg
>> updates. Alternatively (at the end of the chapter), you can rename the
>> gnupg1 binaries and make symlinks to gnupg2, but i don't like that.
>
> Thanks, since I am German, I can read this document :-D 
>
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You being German has nothing to do with the fact you can read it. I am
British, I can also read it.
;-p

Regards,

Tristan

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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread Uwe Brauer 
>> "K" == K Raven  writes:

   > Hi,

   > I'm using Kubuntu (13.10) too and because many packets depend on gnupg,
   > i use the Alternatives system to leave gnupg1 installed and use gnupg2
   > in parallel. You can see that on
   >  (in German, but
   > the commandos are readable). Sure, you must repeat the steps after gnupg
   > updates. Alternatively (at the end of the chapter), you can rename the
   > gnupg1 binaries and make symlinks to gnupg2, but i don't like that.

Thanks, since I am German, I can read this document :-D 


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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread Uwe Brauer 
>> "Jens" == Jens Lechtenboerger
>>  writes: 

   > On Sa, Dez 21 2013, Uwe Brauer wrote:

   >> I am on Kubuntu 10.04 and I have both gnupg and gnupg2
   >> installed. Now since 2.x is not affected by the problem mentioned
   >> I prefer to use it. However how can I be sure that gnupg2 is used
   >> for my email correspondence for which I use pgp-mime and not
   >> gnupg? (I am using Xemacs+gnus)

   > You can uninstall or update gnupg :-)

well, no, because then apt-get tells me to uninstall 
roughly 36 package, some of them look pretty much like core programs.

   > Alternatively, for EasyPG you can customize epg-gpg-program.  (The
   > configuration code tries gpg first, gpg2 second.  So uninstall
   > should really help.)

Ok this was the variable I was looking for. I looked up gpg, epa but not
epg! thanks


   > Best wishes
   > Jens


Uwe 
   > P.S. Do you know Mail-Followup-To (MFT)?
   > If you customized message-subscribed-addresses, my reply would
   > automatically get the correct recipient headers, see:
   > 
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Mailing-Lists.html

hm, I am reading this group via gmane (and news) I use simply 
gnus-summary-followup-with-original which results in a mail 
to  Newsgroups: gmane.comp.encryption.gpg.user
Do you find this annoying?


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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread K. Raven 
Hi,

> On Sa, Dez 21 2013, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> 
>> I am on Kubuntu 10.04 and I have both gnupg and gnupg2 installed.
>> Now since 2.x is not affected by the problem mentioned I prefer to
>> use it. However how can I be sure that gnupg2 is used for my email 
>> correspondence for which I use pgp-mime and not gnupg? (I am using 
>> Xemacs+gnus)
> 
> You can uninstall or update gnupg :-)

I'm using Kubuntu (13.10) too and because many packets depend on gnupg,
i use the Alternatives system to leave gnupg1 installed and use gnupg2
in parallel. You can see that on
 (in German, but
the commandos are readable). Sure, you must repeat the steps after gnupg
updates. Alternatively (at the end of the chapter), you can rename the
gnupg1 binaries and make symlinks to gnupg2, but i don't like that.

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Ciao
Kai

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Re: 2.x

2013-12-22 Thread Jens Lechtenboerger 
On Sa, Dez 21 2013, Uwe Brauer wrote:

> I am on Kubuntu 10.04 and I have both gnupg and gnupg2 installed. Now
> since 2.x is not affected by the problem mentioned I prefer to use
> it. However how can I be sure that gnupg2 is used for my email
> correspondence for which I use pgp-mime and not gnupg? (I am using
> Xemacs+gnus)

You can uninstall or update gnupg :-)

Alternatively, for EasyPG you can customize epg-gpg-program.  (The
configuration code tries gpg first, gpg2 second.  So uninstall
should really help.)

Best wishes
Jens

P.S. Do you know Mail-Followup-To (MFT)?
If you customized message-subscribed-addresses, my reply would
automatically get the correct recipient headers, see:
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/message/Mailing-Lists.html

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