Re: [google-appengine] App Engine HRD migration and easier process for people with no data

2012-09-21 Thread Joshua Smith
Oh, well.. yeah. Good point.

I think google is stuck supporting M/S for 3 years after their deprecation 
warning, though. So I'm in no hurry.


On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Kristopher Giesing  wrote:

> Google's messaging about migration is getting stronger, so I assume the "why 
> bother" is "so Google doesn't one day shut down my instance".
> 
> - Kris
> 
> On Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:30:07 PM UTC-7, Joshua Smith wrote:
> I have one such app, and I can tell you that it has had exactly 0 downtime 
> for years. If you don't use the datastore, then whether you are on HR or M/S 
> completely doesn't matter. Even during periodic maintenance, the app will 
> just keep on serving.
> 
> So… why bother?
> 
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Greg Linden  wrote:
> 
>> Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd assume there are a large number of appengine 
>> applications that have stored nothing in the datastore.
>> 
>> It would be fantastic if there was a quick, easy tool to do the migration to 
>> HRD for those applications without the hassle of changing the application 
>> name and other goodies people with a more serious migrations have to do.  
>> Again, I may be wrong, but I'd assume that, if you have no data in your 
>> master/slave datastore, if you are not using your master/slave datastore, 
>> the migration to HRD could be done in place.
>> 
>> Perhaps someone at Google could think about that, whether it would be easy 
>> to do, and how many people fall into this category.  I'm sure you'd have 
>> much higher compliance if you made it easier, and this probably is one easy 
>> way to make it easier for a large number of people.
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Re: [google-appengine] App Engine HRD migration and easier process for people with no data

2012-09-21 Thread Kristopher Giesing
Google's messaging about migration is getting stronger, so I assume the 
"why bother" is "so Google doesn't one day shut down my instance".

- Kris

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:30:07 PM UTC-7, Joshua Smith wrote:
>
> I have one such app, and I can tell you that it has had exactly 0 downtime 
> for years. If you don't use the datastore, then whether you are on HR or 
> M/S completely doesn't matter. Even during periodic maintenance, the app 
> will just keep on serving.
>
> So… why bother?
>
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Greg Linden > 
> wrote:
>
> Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd assume there are a large number of appengine 
> applications that have stored nothing in the datastore.
>
> It would be fantastic if there was a quick, easy tool to do the migration 
> to HRD for those applications without the hassle of changing the 
> application name and other goodies people with a more serious migrations 
> have to do.  Again, I may be wrong, but I'd assume that, if you have no 
> data in your master/slave datastore, if you are not using your master/slave 
> datastore, the migration to HRD could be done in place.
>
> Perhaps someone at Google could think about that, whether it would be easy 
> to do, and how many people fall into this category.  I'm sure you'd have 
> much higher compliance if you made it easier, and this probably is one easy 
> way to make it easier for a large number of people.
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Re: [google-appengine] App Engine HRD migration and easier process for people with no data

2012-09-20 Thread Joshua Smith
I have one such app, and I can tell you that it has had exactly 0 downtime for 
years. If you don't use the datastore, then whether you are on HR or M/S 
completely doesn't matter. Even during periodic maintenance, the app will just 
keep on serving.

So… why bother?

On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Greg Linden  wrote:

> Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd assume there are a large number of appengine 
> applications that have stored nothing in the datastore.
> 
> It would be fantastic if there was a quick, easy tool to do the migration to 
> HRD for those applications without the hassle of changing the application 
> name and other goodies people with a more serious migrations have to do.  
> Again, I may be wrong, but I'd assume that, if you have no data in your 
> master/slave datastore, if you are not using your master/slave datastore, the 
> migration to HRD could be done in place.
> 
> Perhaps someone at Google could think about that, whether it would be easy to 
> do, and how many people fall into this category.  I'm sure you'd have much 
> higher compliance if you made it easier, and this probably is one easy way to 
> make it easier for a large number of people.
> 
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