Re: [google-appengine] App Engine HRD migration and easier process for people with no data
Oh, well.. yeah. Good point. I think google is stuck supporting M/S for 3 years after their deprecation warning, though. So I'm in no hurry. On Sep 21, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Kristopher Giesing wrote: > Google's messaging about migration is getting stronger, so I assume the "why > bother" is "so Google doesn't one day shut down my instance". > > - Kris > > On Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:30:07 PM UTC-7, Joshua Smith wrote: > I have one such app, and I can tell you that it has had exactly 0 downtime > for years. If you don't use the datastore, then whether you are on HR or M/S > completely doesn't matter. Even during periodic maintenance, the app will > just keep on serving. > > So… why bother? > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Greg Linden wrote: > >> Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd assume there are a large number of appengine >> applications that have stored nothing in the datastore. >> >> It would be fantastic if there was a quick, easy tool to do the migration to >> HRD for those applications without the hassle of changing the application >> name and other goodies people with a more serious migrations have to do. >> Again, I may be wrong, but I'd assume that, if you have no data in your >> master/slave datastore, if you are not using your master/slave datastore, >> the migration to HRD could be done in place. >> >> Perhaps someone at Google could think about that, whether it would be easy >> to do, and how many people fall into this category. I'm sure you'd have >> much higher compliance if you made it easier, and this probably is one easy >> way to make it easier for a large number of people. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/VpNv04_Nr1YJ. >> To post to this group, send email to google-a...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> google-appengi...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/4TM_AH3o8JkJ. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine HRD migration and easier process for people with no data
Google's messaging about migration is getting stronger, so I assume the "why bother" is "so Google doesn't one day shut down my instance". - Kris On Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:30:07 PM UTC-7, Joshua Smith wrote: > > I have one such app, and I can tell you that it has had exactly 0 downtime > for years. If you don't use the datastore, then whether you are on HR or > M/S completely doesn't matter. Even during periodic maintenance, the app > will just keep on serving. > > So… why bother? > > On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Greg Linden > > wrote: > > Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd assume there are a large number of appengine > applications that have stored nothing in the datastore. > > It would be fantastic if there was a quick, easy tool to do the migration > to HRD for those applications without the hassle of changing the > application name and other goodies people with a more serious migrations > have to do. Again, I may be wrong, but I'd assume that, if you have no > data in your master/slave datastore, if you are not using your master/slave > datastore, the migration to HRD could be done in place. > > Perhaps someone at Google could think about that, whether it would be easy > to do, and how many people fall into this category. I'm sure you'd have > much higher compliance if you made it easier, and this probably is one easy > way to make it easier for a large number of people. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/VpNv04_Nr1YJ. > To post to this group, send email to google-a...@googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengi...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/4TM_AH3o8JkJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] App Engine HRD migration and easier process for people with no data
I have one such app, and I can tell you that it has had exactly 0 downtime for years. If you don't use the datastore, then whether you are on HR or M/S completely doesn't matter. Even during periodic maintenance, the app will just keep on serving. So… why bother? On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Greg Linden wrote: > Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd assume there are a large number of appengine > applications that have stored nothing in the datastore. > > It would be fantastic if there was a quick, easy tool to do the migration to > HRD for those applications without the hassle of changing the application > name and other goodies people with a more serious migrations have to do. > Again, I may be wrong, but I'd assume that, if you have no data in your > master/slave datastore, if you are not using your master/slave datastore, the > migration to HRD could be done in place. > > Perhaps someone at Google could think about that, whether it would be easy to > do, and how many people fall into this category. I'm sure you'd have much > higher compliance if you made it easier, and this probably is one easy way to > make it easier for a large number of people. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/VpNv04_Nr1YJ. > To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.