Re: Statement from the Guix maintainers regarding recent events

2022-03-14 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Dear all,

sorry if I comment this thread just today, but I had a very long backlog
of guix-devel messages

Tobias Geerinckx-Rice  writes:

> Maxim wasn't directly involved.  Neither was the CoC.  I was.
>
> If you're really curious about what happened you can read the past
> days' archived threads in which Taylan participated.

OK, now we know that the involved messages was from Taylan and we could
check the archives

> We're not going to rehash them here.

I don't want to rehash them at all, but please consider that the
original statement cannot be understood since it lacks proper references
to the facts that led to the decision, at least for people like me who
does not read each and every thread.

Thankk you for your patience in moderating this list!

[...]

Ciao, Giovanni

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Re: Statement from the Guix maintainers regarding recent events

2022-03-01 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Mark,

Mark H Weaver  writes:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer  writes:
>
>> * The person who lacked judgment and caused hurt by repeatedly pushing
>>   their exclusionary views onto our community have been removed from the
>>   trusted list, meaning each of their messages will now have to go
>>   through moderation.
>
> Can you please cite the specific language in our Code of Conduct[*] that
> you believe justifies this enforcement action, along with the offending
> quotes by the accused person?

Let's not rehash the story yet again.  I think the archived thread
speaks for itself.  If not, you can contact us guix-maintainers
privately if there is really something unclear or which needs further
explaining, and I'll do my best to answer your questions there.

Thank you,

Maxim



Re: Statement from the Guix maintainers regarding recent events

2022-03-01 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Hi Mark,

Maxim wasn't directly involved.  Neither was the CoC.  I was.

If you're really curious about what happened you can read the past days' 
archived threads in which Taylan participated.

We're not going to rehash them here.

Kind regards,

T G-R

Sent on the go.  Excuse or enjoy my brevity.



Re: Statement from the Guix maintainers regarding recent events

2022-03-01 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Maxim,

Maxim Cournoyer  writes:

> * The person who lacked judgment and caused hurt by repeatedly pushing
>   their exclusionary views onto our community have been removed from the
>   trusted list, meaning each of their messages will now have to go
>   through moderation.

Can you please cite the specific language in our Code of Conduct[*] that
you believe justifies this enforcement action, along with the offending
quotes by the accused person?

  Thanks,
Mark

[*] Specifically, the version that was in force at the time of the
alleged violations.
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Re: Statement from the Guix maintainers regarding recent events

2022-03-01 Thread Kaelyn
Hi Maxim and the other Guix maintainers,

As a new-ish Guix user, fledgling contributer, and fairly quiet list member for 
whom those recent discussions hit close to home, I would like to thank you all 
for your handling of the situation. I also thank you for sending the statement 
about the resolution of the events. The threads were emotionally too difficult 
for me to keep following them, and seeing this statement has again re-affirmed 
my faith in the Guix community and the consideration and respect I have 
observed in it over the past nine months. Again, I give you my heart-felt 
thanks.

Cheers,
Kaelyn



Re: Statement from the Guix maintainers regarding recent events

2022-03-01 Thread Ekaitz Zarraga
Hi,

Thanks for the decision you have taken here, it was a difficult one.

>From my side I want to publicly apologize to those who thought
(very accurately) my tone was harsh.

That being said, it looks like we reached some understanding
together and that's a reason for celebration.

I hope we keep in the good direction.

Thanks for handling this.

Ekaitz