[h-cost] Victorian Embellishments exhibit
The University of New Hampshire has an exhibit - Embellishments: Constructing Victorian Detail http://www.izaak.unh.edu/museum/index.htm The picture on the page *rotates*, so you can see every detail of this incredible, asymetrical gown... Anne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !
In my neighborhood (in NYC) some of the little mom and pop ethnic convenience stores still sell Argo. Hard to find Linit, though (the liquid starch I used to get and use for a number of things...) Anne On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:49 AM, wrote: > > Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: > > Those &*%$$! bxstards at the &#@^$! supermarket have stopped > stocking %(&#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. > You bxstards! > > -C. > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] (no subject)
It is not actually a head covering. It is worn under a veil, sort of a swathe of fabric, covering the throat (and sometimes the base of the chin.) It was worn in Europe in the 14th and 15th centuries, generally by married women. It then became part of the habit of some orders of nuns - those that were founded at that time - which is what many modern people think about when they hear the term. (Orders usually based their habits on the ordinary clothing of a matron or widow of their time.) Now - it seems quite possible that the author *meant* the veil, not the wimple... which would itself indicate just how trustworthy this is as a source... The veil is the part that covers the head. They are two different pieces, even when worn together, sometimes of two different fabrics. (The veil is worn without the wimple in many periods - the wimple is not generally worn without the veil, which may cause the confusion.) Veils were worn by many women in many cultures. Ancient Greek and Roman women usually wore something over their heads when they went out in public... it's not just a Judeo/Christian thing. Anne On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Becky wrote: > What is a wimple? I assume it is a head/hair covering. Any images of one? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Anne Murphy wrote: > >> Given that the "Earliest Christians" didn't wear wimples... that >> sounds like nonsense to me. >> >> Wimples developed late in the Middle Ages - when it started getting >> colder, for one thing. And I do remember someone (possibly on this >> list, years ago) commenting that it did indeed keep her much warmer. >> >> Anne >> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Laurie Taylor >> wrote: >>> Greetings all, >>> >>> I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. >>> I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or >>> documentation for this information. >>> >>> "Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that >>> the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well >>> had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed >>> female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a >>> woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple." >>> >>> Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. "Part II, Behavior." The Best, Worst, and >>> Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every >>> Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. >>> >>> So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? >>> Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate >>> based on available documentation? >>> >>> >>> Laurie Taylor >>> Phoenix >>> >>> ___ >>> h-costume mailing list >>> h-costume@mail.indra.com >>> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] (no subject)
Given that the "Earliest Christians" didn't wear wimples... that sounds like nonsense to me. Wimples developed late in the Middle Ages - when it started getting colder, for one thing. And I do remember someone (possibly on this list, years ago) commenting that it did indeed keep her much warmer. Anne On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Laurie Taylor wrote: > Greetings all, > > I've been mulling this bit of trivia around in my head for the longest time. > I think I need to share it and see if any of you know of any support or > documentation for this information. > > "Most Unusual Concession to Modesty: The earliest Christians believed that > the Virgin Mary was impregnated through her ear and that other women as well > had used their ears as reproductive organs. For that reason, an exposed > female ear was considered no less an outrage than an exposed thigh, and a > woman would not appear in public unless clad in a tight-fitting wimple." > > Felton, Bruce, and Mark Fowler. "Part II, Behavior." The Best, Worst, and > Most Unusual: Noteworthy Achievements, Events, Feats and Blunders of Every > Conceivable Kind. New York: Galahad, 1994. 428. Print. > > So, the wimple had to develop for some reason. Is this reason believable? > Documentable? Are there any other reasons that would be more legitimate > based on available documentation? > > > Laurie Taylor > Phoenix > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I'm finding this fascinating - and *extremely* well timed, for me! I joined the list in... 1997, I think? I believe I found it from a reference on alt.stagecraft (speaking of changes in social media - remember usenet?) I was a theatrical costume designer, with an interest in historic costume. I was on and off a bit the first few years - depended on internet access... when I got my own computer in 2000, this was the first list I subbed to. I read regularly and was active for a number of years, but then I had an attack of life, designed less, and had less time - stayed subscribed, so I can look things up, but rarely read and never posted. Life has calmed down a bit, and I'm trying to get back into some of my interests and activities. I just started looking at the list again, and the first thing I noticed was how slow it is... it used to be almost overwhelmingly busy. But yes - almost all of my textile lists (I also spin and weave) have really slowed down - as indeed, have all my lists. (I do still recognize quite a few of you - but there are also some names I don't remember - which might be faulty memory on my part, but might be new blood...) I agree with Fran that a value of this list is the wide range of interests - I'm *not* just interested in any one time or place. And I may or may not be actually making anything - so the dress diary format is of limited use to me. And I think we started losing people when the Yahoo lists became popular - everyone got used to just looking there, and some, I know, resisted any other format. (In fact, most non-Yahoo lists I knew of died altogether - we've really done quite well.) I know that it doesn't work to just stand there insisting "People *ought* to do it the way they always have! It worked, after all!" I spent enough time 10 years ago arguing the value of email lists to people who "just picked up the phone and called" - and couldn't see that calling never reached enough people... So now, I'll continue to enjoy this list (which is still busier than many, and has people I remember as knowledgeable) but also start looking to find where other people actually are. Is there a costuming presence on Ravelry? Even though it was specifically founded for knitters, I've found a lot of other textile people have migrated there... For many, it seems to be because the format allows them to keep track of many interests in one place. (I'm not active there - see attack of life, lack of energy - but it's another place I want to start reading again, now that I'm recovering.) In some ways, for me, that fact that the list is slower makes it easier to rejoin - my inbox won't be flooded if I can't read for a day or two. It means less information, though... Anne On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:08 AM, wrote: > So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And > what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have > found it. > > I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. > > Penny Ladnier, owner > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
