Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-28 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, mark.dodge wrote:


I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to. What
is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical research
sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
can or can't be run.


Multiple methods, if you can fit all of the websites into the Don't use a 
proxy for these sites line in the internet explorer proxy settings you 
can setup a dummy proxy and use that line to whitelist your sites.


I wouldn't just do it at the client, I would add it as a group policy and 
make it so they can't change the proxy server.


Probably the best way of doing this is removing their default gateway and 
setting up an actual content filtering proxy server.


The Cyclope Filter I recommended previously works well, but costs per 
user.  You can quickly and easilly add and remove sites from the whitelist 
and blacklist in the proxy, and it can be configured in either mode 
(Whitelist or Blacklist).  It doesn't have individual user settings, so 
you'd need something a bit more powerful if you're looking for allowing 
different users to access different sites.



It all depends on how determined your users are to get past the filter. 
If you allow access out to the internet on other ports, they can always 
install an SSH server somewhere, use an SSH client and tunnel all their 
HTTP requests to a proxy server they setup elsewhere, and bypass.  That's 
what removing their default gateway fixes.





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[H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread mark.dodge
I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to. What
is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical research
sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
can or can't be run.

 

Mark

MD Computers, Houston, TX

 



Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread Joe User
Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 9:24:57 AM, you wrote:

 I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to. What
 is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
 business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical research
 sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
 can or can't be run.

You mean the HOSTS file?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread Alex
Use a proxy PAC file and enforce the policy on all the machines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config


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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:53 PM
To: mark.dodge
Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 9:24:57 AM, you wrote:

 I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to.
What
 is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
 business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical
research
 sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
 can or can't be run.

You mean the HOSTS file?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...




Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread mark.dodge
Yes the hosts file, that's it. I tried content advisor but it seemed like
every time you needed to log in to a site or going to any other part of the
site you had to allow content advisor with the password again.

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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:53 PM
To: mark.dodge
Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 9:24:57 AM, you wrote:

 I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to.
What
 is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
 business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical
research
 sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
 can or can't be run.

You mean the HOSTS file?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread mark.dodge
Using this and I allowed Google for example, they could go to every site
that Google comes up with in a search?

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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:36 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Use a proxy PAC file and enforce the policy on all the machines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:53 PM
To: mark.dodge
Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 9:24:57 AM, you wrote:

 I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to.
What
 is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
 business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical
research
 sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
 can or can't be run.

You mean the HOSTS file?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...




Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread Joe User
Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 3:55:12 PM, you wrote:

 Using this and I allowed Google for example, they could go to every site
 that Google comes up with in a search?

Ohh that's pretty complex, you may want a surfwatch type of thing.
Maybe a sonicwall content filter?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread DHSinclair

JoeUser,
I though a SonicWall was big bucks? Thought Mark was trying to do this
w/o an external hdw solution?
Anyway, it is bigger than my operation... :)
Duncan

At 17:51 09/27/2008 -0600, you wrote:

Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 3:55:12 PM, you wrote:

 Using this and I allowed Google for example, they could go to every site
 that Google comes up with in a search?

Ohh that's pretty complex, you may want a surfwatch type of thing.
Maybe a sonicwall content filter?

--
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...




Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread Alex
not really, you get to define exactly where you allow the browser to go.

if you allow google.com and they click on the local google cached copy
link, it will be permitted because you allowed *.google.com - not the
actual link itself (say www.cnn.com)

quite a few ways to restrict using the pac file, via IP and domain name. The
possibilities are vast with inclusion/exclusion parameters.

here's my simple one, which basically bypass my proxy for all local browser
traffic, otherwise it gets pushed through the proxy.

function FindProxyForURL(url, host) { 

if (shExpMatch(url,192.168.*/*)) {return DIRECT;}
if (shExpMatch(url, 192.168.*:*/*)) {return DIRECT;}

return PROXY 192.168.1.250:9876; DIRECT;
}


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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Using this and I allowed Google for example, they could go to every site
that Google comes up with in a search?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:36 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Use a proxy PAC file and enforce the policy on all the machines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config


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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:53 PM
To: mark.dodge
Subject: Re: [H] White list or black list?

Hello mark.dodge,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 9:24:57 AM, you wrote:

 I need to limit which web pages multiple business computers can go to.
What
 is the file that does this? I want to limit IE to around 12 sites the
 business needs for insurance and their page and a couple of medical
research
 sites.  I've done a google on whitelist but it comes up with programs that
 can or can't be run.

You mean the HOSTS file?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...




Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread Joe User
Hello DHSinclair,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 4:57:06 PM, you wrote:

 JoeUser,
 I though a SonicWall was big bucks? Thought Mark was trying to do this
 w/o an external hdw solution?
 Anyway, it is bigger than my operation... :)
 Duncan


Oh maybe so...


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] White list or black list?

2008-09-27 Thread DHSinclair

LOL! For certain sure :)
Duncan

At 18:44 09/27/2008 -0600, you wrote:

Hello DHSinclair,

Saturday, September 27, 2008, 4:57:06 PM, you wrote:

 JoeUser,
 I though a SonicWall was big bucks? Thought Mark was trying to do this
 w/o an external hdw solution?
 Anyway, it is bigger than my operation... :)
 Duncan


Oh maybe so...

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