Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proper exception handling
If you want to guarantee safety, you can use an MVar () to force serialization; put something in the MVar inside of catchDyn, and take from it immediately after starting the thread & after throwing each exception. -- ryan On Feb 10, 2008 11:49 AM, Thomas DuBuisson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cafe, > Fact 1: ghc{,i} does not crash when executing this code. > Fact 2: I do not want this to crash. > Question: Is there some theoretical window between the 'catchDyn' exception > handling and the recursive call to 'catchThatDamnError' that could result in > an unhandled exception? (of type 'DynError', of coarse) > > I suppose I am looking for an answer to this question from a language > standpoint as well as a compiler pov. > > As an aside: I see at least one way to be certain of the safty by wrapping > the call to forkIO in 'catchDyn', reforking if an exception is caught, and > passing the new ThreadId to throwConstantly via shared mutable state - I'd > like to avoid all this if my current example is safe. > > Thomas > > > import Control.Exception (catchDyn, throwDynTo) > > import Control.Concurrent (forkIO, threadDelay) > > import Control.Monad (forever) > > import Data.Dynamic > > > > main = do > > tid <- forkIO catchThatDamnError > > forever $ throwConstantly tid > > > > catchThatDamnError = catchDyn start (\DynError -> catchThatDamnError) > > > > start = do > > threadDelay 5000 > > start > > > > throwConstantly tid = do > > throwDynTo tid DynError > > > > data DynError = DynError deriving (Eq, Ord, Show, Typeable) > > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proper exception handling
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 02:49:39PM -0500, Thomas DuBuisson wrote: > Cafe, > Fact 1: ghc{,i} does not crash when executing this code. > Fact 2: I do not want this to crash. > Question: Is there some theoretical window between the 'catchDyn' exception > handling and the recursive call to 'catchThatDamnError' that could result in > an unhandled exception? (of type 'DynError', of coarse) > > I suppose I am looking for an answer to this question from a language > standpoint as well as a compiler pov. > > As an aside: I see at least one way to be certain of the safty by wrapping > the call to forkIO in 'catchDyn', reforking if an exception is caught, and > passing the new ThreadId to throwConstantly via shared mutable state - I'd > like to avoid all this if my current example is safe. > > Thomas Asynchronous exceptions are blocked in handlers, so there is no window - infact all exceptions after the first won't be delivered at all. However, you could be unlucky enough to throw the first error before the first catchDyn, so more synchronisation might be needed. Stefan > > > import Control.Exception (catchDyn, throwDynTo) > > import Control.Concurrent (forkIO, threadDelay) > > import Control.Monad (forever) > > import Data.Dynamic > > > > main = do > > tid <- forkIO catchThatDamnError > > forever $ throwConstantly tid > > > > catchThatDamnError = catchDyn start (\DynError -> catchThatDamnError) > > > > start = do > > threadDelay 5000 > > start > > > > throwConstantly tid = do > > throwDynTo tid DynError > > > > data DynError = DynError deriving (Eq, Ord, Show, Typeable) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Proper exception handling
Cafe, Fact 1: ghc{,i} does not crash when executing this code. Fact 2: I do not want this to crash. Question: Is there some theoretical window between the 'catchDyn' exception handling and the recursive call to 'catchThatDamnError' that could result in an unhandled exception? (of type 'DynError', of coarse) I suppose I am looking for an answer to this question from a language standpoint as well as a compiler pov. As an aside: I see at least one way to be certain of the safty by wrapping the call to forkIO in 'catchDyn', reforking if an exception is caught, and passing the new ThreadId to throwConstantly via shared mutable state - I'd like to avoid all this if my current example is safe. Thomas > import Control.Exception (catchDyn, throwDynTo) > import Control.Concurrent (forkIO, threadDelay) > import Control.Monad (forever) > import Data.Dynamic > > main = do > tid <- forkIO catchThatDamnError > forever $ throwConstantly tid > > catchThatDamnError = catchDyn start (\DynError -> catchThatDamnError) > > start = do > threadDelay 5000 > start > > throwConstantly tid = do > throwDynTo tid DynError > > data DynError = DynError deriving (Eq, Ord, Show, Typeable) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe