RE: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread ironchef
Cream wrote:
> and damnit, let us use UDP ports for rcon again, i cant find any IRC
> admin bots for CS:S.

On that note, could you find a suitable one for HLDS? Any of the buggers
I've tested leave quite a bit to be desired. I'm talking about
standalone bots, not a Mirc script or HLSW. If you've got any (aside
from CSBot, that is), I'd love to hear about it. TKers are real bastards
in DOD.

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Re: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread Cream
Scott wrote:
Has anyone heard if VAC2 is going to be for the Source engine only?
Considering that source is based on a completely new game engine*, i
seriously doubt VAC2 will be backwards compatible.
*painfully witnessed by the missing functions in the server engine.
and damnit, let us use UDP ports for rcon again, i cant find any IRC
admin bots for CS:S.
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Re: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread Whisper
Doh

You're right

I mis-interpreted something I read

The Atlantic Ocean will become larger than the Pacific (supposedly) at
some time in the future

Thats assuming the Mid-Atlantic Ridge doesn't rise high enough to
split it in half :)

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:15:43 -0500, StealthMode
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whisper...
>
> Your geology is correct but your geological history is not. The continents
> are SEPERATING not coming together. 8)
>
> Far as Valve and VAC 1&2...they are at least letting us know they ARE
> working on it. That's a lot better then practices last year and prior years.
> Far as I am concerned any news is good news. Even if it is a vague
> announcement that its coming. But I don't think they would have mentioned it
> if it wasn't close to release.
>
> I just hope its as good as the rumors I am hearing of it are. Adaptive
> script detections...if what I have heard about this is true no hack will
> ever be safe updating again. 8)
>
> StealthMode
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Re: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread Simon Garner
On 16/02/2005 10:44 a.m., Scott wrote:
Has anyone heard if VAC2 is going to be for the Source engine only?
I'd be very surprised if it weren't. HL already has VAC (for what it's
worth). I imagine they won't be spending much more time supporting a
legacy product.
-Simon
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Re: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread Simon Garner
On 16/02/2005 7:15 a.m., StealthMode wrote:
Your geology is correct but your geological history is not. The continents
are SEPERATING not coming together. 8)
In that case the west coast better watch out, because Asia is coming :)
I just hope its as good as the rumors I am hearing of it are. Adaptive
script detections...if what I have heard about this is true no hack will
ever be safe updating again. 8)
I'll believe it when I see it...
-Simon
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RE: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread Scott
Has anyone heard if VAC2 is going to be for the Source engine only?

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

Whisper...

Your geology is correct but your geological history is not. The continents
are SEPERATING not coming together. 8)

Far as Valve and VAC 1&2...they are at least letting us know they ARE
working on it. That's a lot better then practices last year and prior years.
Far as I am concerned any news is good news. Even if it is a vague
announcement that its coming. But I don't think they would have mentioned it
if it wasn't close to release.

I just hope its as good as the rumors I am hearing of it are. Adaptive
script detections...if what I have heard about this is true no hack will
ever be safe updating again. 8)

StealthMode
#LoTgaming
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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread Steven Hartland
The fact that have multiple threads are running doesn't make an
app strictly "multi threaded" in that those threads may execute
menial tasks such as the odd DNS lookup as I know is the case
for UT.
For an app to take real benefit of multi threads it would need for
two or more threads to be doing a real quantity of "work" for the
majority of the time.
e.g. a processing thread per player or connection like a threaded
webserver.
I believe the SRC server primary processing loop to be done
in a single thread hence it gains little.
You can get an impression of the work a thread is doing by
using Process Explorer available from:
www.sysinternals.com
   Steve / K
- Original Message -
From: "StealthMode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In reply to the threads and multithreaded games...
I just checked the process manager on our win2k3 std (OT: sounds like some
kinda sex virus). Srcds has 3 threads for each instance. Dunno if they are
idle threads or not. I find that odd though. Didn't someone state that hlds
and srcds were not made for hyperthreading/multithreading? I think the
process manager contradicts that statement.
But anyway. Good to hear that the reinstall helped snagu. I am curious what
the other installs issue was that caused the lag.


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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread StealthMode
In reply to the threads and multithreaded games...

I just checked the process manager on our win2k3 std (OT: sounds like some
kinda sex virus). Srcds has 3 threads for each instance. Dunno if they are
idle threads or not. I find that odd though. Didn't someone state that hlds
and srcds were not made for hyperthreading/multithreading? I think the
process manager contradicts that statement.

But anyway. Good to hear that the reinstall helped snagu. I am curious what
the other installs issue was that caused the lag.

StealthMode
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Re: [hlds] So I hear VAC2 is coming...

2005-02-15 Thread StealthMode
Whisper...

Your geology is correct but your geological history is not. The continents
are SEPERATING not coming together. 8)

Far as Valve and VAC 1&2...they are at least letting us know they ARE
working on it. That's a lot better then practices last year and prior years.
Far as I am concerned any news is good news. Even if it is a vague
announcement that its coming. But I don't think they would have mentioned it
if it wasn't close to release.

I just hope its as good as the rumors I am hearing of it are. Adaptive
script detections...if what I have heard about this is true no hack will
ever be safe updating again. 8)

StealthMode
#LoTgaming
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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread Saint K.
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- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

HD speed is the question here.
P4 3.0 Ghz 1024MB DDR 400 win2k3.
Servers run wc3x. But it should not form a problem as we've done it
before.
We also tested without plugins, same effect.
- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

Default HLDS installs?
Hardware Config? What is it?
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:09:36 +0100, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Right,
We've changed all servers to win2k3 and everything seems to work quite
allright now.
No more that weird vnc/lag thingy.
Only one more thing. We run 2 32max servers per box. CPU load _never_
go's
over 75%, but still its lag spyking on heavy maps such as aztec and
inferno.
The inet line is 100mbit, so there aint the problem either.
Any suggestions ?
Saint K.
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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread starkiller
HD speed is the question here.

> P4 3.0 Ghz 1024MB DDR 400 win2k3.
>
> Servers run wc3x. But it should not form a problem as we've done it
> before.
> We also tested without plugins, same effect.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem
>
>
>> Default HLDS installs?
>>
>> Hardware Config? What is it?
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:09:36 +0100, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>> Right,
>>> We've changed all servers to win2k3 and everything seems to work quite
>>> allright now.
>>> No more that weird vnc/lag thingy.
>>>
>>> Only one more thing. We run 2 32max servers per box. CPU load _never_
>>> go's
>>> over 75%, but still its lag spyking on heavy maps such as aztec and
>>> inferno.
>>> The inet line is 100mbit, so there aint the problem either.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions ?
>>>
>>> Saint K.
>>>
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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread Saint K.
P4 3.0 Ghz 1024MB DDR 400 win2k3.
Servers run wc3x. But it should not form a problem as we've done it before.
We also tested without plugins, same effect.
- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

Default HLDS installs?
Hardware Config? What is it?
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:09:36 +0100, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Right,
We've changed all servers to win2k3 and everything seems to work quite
allright now.
No more that weird vnc/lag thingy.
Only one more thing. We run 2 32max servers per box. CPU load _never_
go's
over 75%, but still its lag spyking on heavy maps such as aztec and
inferno.
The inet line is 100mbit, so there aint the problem either.
Any suggestions ?
Saint K.
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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread Whisper
Default HLDS installs?

Hardware Config? What is it?

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:09:36 +0100, Saint K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right,
> We've changed all servers to win2k3 and everything seems to work quite
> allright now.
> No more that weird vnc/lag thingy.
>
> Only one more thing. We run 2 32max servers per box. CPU load _never_ go's
> over 75%, but still its lag spyking on heavy maps such as aztec and inferno.
> The inet line is 100mbit, so there aint the problem either.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> Saint K.
>
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Re: [hlds] Odd lag problem

2005-02-15 Thread Saint K.
Right,
We've changed all servers to win2k3 and everything seems to work quite
allright now.
No more that weird vnc/lag thingy.
Only one more thing. We run 2 32max servers per box. CPU load _never_ go's
over 75%, but still its lag spyking on heavy maps such as aztec and inferno.
The inet line is 100mbit, so there aint the problem either.
Any suggestions ?
Saint K.

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