Re: [hlds] ClipRayToVPhysics crash and other related crash
And here's another crash trace probably related: #0 0xf5c3785e in VectorTransform () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #1 0xf5c388bf in TransformAABB () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #2 0xf5ba1e1e in CTFProjectile_Arrow::PositionArrowOnBone () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #3 0xf5ba33e2 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #4 0xf5ba2c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #5 0xf5533062 in CBaseEntity::Touch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #6 0xf576f8be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #7 0xf577180f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #8 0xf5771b7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #9 0xf5771be4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #10 0xf576929e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so Maybe somehow some variables (origin, angles, etc.) are getting set to invalid/NaN values which is messing with these functions? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:33 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Cc: 'Eric Smith' Subject: [hlds] ClipRayToVPhysics crash and other related crash Lately, I've been getting crashes in the ClipRayToVPhysics function and other physics related functions. It's been occurring on more than one server and seems to happen more often recently. The increasing frequency leads me to believe that it could be some kind of exploit. I do not run SourceMod. Here are some sample stack traces. #0 0xf771310c in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToVPhysics () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so #1 0xf77148f3 in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToCollideable () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so #2 0xf7715005 in CEngineTrace::TraceRay () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so #3 0xf5b67c04 in CTFSniperRifle::UpdateSniperDot () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #4 0xf5b6a8a2 in CTFSniperRifle::ItemPostFrame () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #5 0xf55735ce in CBasePlayer::ItemPostFrame () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #6 0xf5af971c in CTFPlayer::ItemPostFrame () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #7 0xf57aeef8 in CBasePlayer::PostThink () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #8 0xf5ae1dba in CTFPlayer::PostThink () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #9 0xf57c6872 in CPlayerMove::RunPostThink () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #10 0xf57c83ba in CPlayerMove::RunCommand () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so ... #0 0xf5b7fe06 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::PositionArrowOnBone () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #1 0xf5b813e2 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #2 0xf5b80c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #3 0xf5511062 in CBaseEntity::Touch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #4 0xf574d8be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #5 0xf574f80f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #6 0xf574fb7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #7 0xf574fbe4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #8 0xf574729e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #9 0xf575546e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsToss () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #10 0xf5755da2 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsSimulate () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #11 0xf5748b29 in Physics_SimulateEntity () ... This one doesn't make it to PositionArrowOnBone: #0 0xf5b55901 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #1 0xf5b54c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #2 0xf54e5062 in CBaseEntity::Touch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #3 0xf57218be in CBaseEntity:
[hlds] ClipRayToVPhysics crash and other related crash
Lately, I've been getting crashes in the ClipRayToVPhysics function and other physics related functions. It's been occurring on more than one server and seems to happen more often recently. The increasing frequency leads me to believe that it could be some kind of exploit. I do not run SourceMod. Here are some sample stack traces. #0 0xf771310c in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToVPhysics () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so #1 0xf77148f3 in CEngineTrace::ClipRayToCollideable () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so #2 0xf7715005 in CEngineTrace::TraceRay () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/bin/engine_i486.so #3 0xf5b67c04 in CTFSniperRifle::UpdateSniperDot () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #4 0xf5b6a8a2 in CTFSniperRifle::ItemPostFrame () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #5 0xf55735ce in CBasePlayer::ItemPostFrame () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #6 0xf5af971c in CTFPlayer::ItemPostFrame () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #7 0xf57aeef8 in CBasePlayer::PostThink () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #8 0xf5ae1dba in CTFPlayer::PostThink () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #9 0xf57c6872 in CPlayerMove::RunPostThink () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #10 0xf57c83ba in CPlayerMove::RunCommand () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so ... #0 0xf5b7fe06 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::PositionArrowOnBone () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #1 0xf5b813e2 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #2 0xf5b80c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #3 0xf5511062 in CBaseEntity::Touch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #4 0xf574d8be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #5 0xf574f80f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #6 0xf574fb7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #7 0xf574fbe4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #8 0xf574729e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #9 0xf575546e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsToss () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #10 0xf5755da2 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsSimulate () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #11 0xf5748b29 in Physics_SimulateEntity () ... This one doesn't make it to PositionArrowOnBone: #0 0xf5b55901 in CTFProjectile_Arrow::StrikeTarget () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #1 0xf5b54c0b in CTFProjectile_Arrow::ArrowTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #2 0xf54e5062 in CBaseEntity::Touch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #3 0xf57218be in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #4 0xf572380f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #5 0xf5723b7a in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #6 0xf5723be4 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsImpact () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #7 0xf571b29e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsPushEntity () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #8 0xf572946e in CBaseEntity::PhysicsToss () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #9 0xf5729da2 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsSimulate () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #10 0xf571cb29 in Physics_SimulateEntity () from /home/srcds/tf2server/orangebox/tf/bin/server_i486.so #11 0xf571d0a6 in Physics_RunThinkFunctions () ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
This is correct, but if you find a program or attack that gets past the plugin, I'd be happy to add a block for it. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:12 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Dunken Fools DDOS program cant protect against all DDOS attacks. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Violent Crimes < violentcri...@convictgaming.com> wrote: > Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server > owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our > servers. > > > AJ King wrote: > > I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > > they are not violating their TOS... > > > > Just sayin... > > > > I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE > CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alex King > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: hldsl...@taberprame.com > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > >> > >> That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will > >> take it down. > >> We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our > >> servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down. > >> They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. > >> So just report it to steam. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz > >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > >> > >> I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > >> they are not violating their TOS... > >> > >> Just sayin... > >> > >> > >> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >> f0rkz > >> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > _ > > Share your memories online with anyone you want. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
it helps tho atleast your server wont lagg plus it frotects against some console commands that when spammed can lagg and even crash the server On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, DontWannaName! wrote: > Dunken Fools DDOS program cant protect against all DDOS attacks. > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Violent Crimes < > violentcri...@convictgaming.com> wrote: > > > Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server > > owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our > > servers. > > > > > > AJ King wrote: > > > I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > > > they are not violating their TOS... > > > > > > Just sayin... > > > > > > I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE > > CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Alex King > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: hldsl...@taberprame.com > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700 > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > > >> > > >> That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they > will > > >> take it down. > > >> We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash > our > > >> servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down. > > >> They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. > > >> So just report it to steam. > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz > > >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > > >> > > >> I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > > >> they are not violating their TOS... > > >> > > >> Just sayin... > > >> > > >> > > >> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > > >>> ___ > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >>> archives, please visit: > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > >> f0rkz > > >> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > > > > _ > > > Share your memories online with anyone you want. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Dunken Fools DDOS program cant protect against all DDOS attacks. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Violent Crimes < violentcri...@convictgaming.com> wrote: > Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server > owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our > servers. > > > AJ King wrote: > > I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > > they are not violating their TOS... > > > > Just sayin... > > > > I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE > CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alex King > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: hldsl...@taberprame.com > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > >> > >> That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will > >> take it down. > >> We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our > >> servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down. > >> They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. > >> So just report it to steam. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz > >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > >> > >> I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > >> they are not violating their TOS... > >> > >> Just sayin... > >> > >> > >> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>> archives, please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >> f0rkz > >> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > > _ > > Share your memories online with anyone you want. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Just think about it this way. They are making it easier for server owners like us to ban them before they even have a chance to hack in our servers. AJ King wrote: > I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > they are not violating their TOS... > > Just sayin... > > I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE CONTROL. > ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED > > > Thanks, > > Alex King > > > > > > >> From: hldsl...@taberprame.com >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You >> >> That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will >> take it down. >> We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our >> servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down. >> They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. >> So just report it to steam. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz >> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You >> >> I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus >> they are not violating their TOS... >> >> Just sayin... >> >> >> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: >> >> >>> Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> f0rkz >> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > _ > Share your memories online with anyone you want. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus they are not violating their TOS... Just sayin... I DONT AGREE, VALVE IS THE CREATOR. SO THEY DO AND THEY WILL HAVE CONTROL. ALSO THANKS FOR THE INFO ON THAT, MUCH APPRECIATED Thanks, Alex King > From: hldsl...@taberprame.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:35:15 -0700 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > > That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will > take it down. > We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our > servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down. > They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. > So just report it to steam. > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > > I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus > they are not violating their TOS... > > Just sayin... > > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: > > > Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > f0rkz > f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
That's not really true. If you report the steam group to steam they will take it down. We've done it before. There was a group dedicated to trying to crash our servers. We reported the group to steam and they took it down. They also tool the person's ability away from creating groups. So just report it to steam. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:56 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus they are not violating their TOS... Just sayin... On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: > Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds f0rkz f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I don't think valve has much control over who makes what group. Plus they are not violating their TOS... Just sayin... On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:16 PM, shorec...@comcast.net wrote: > Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds f0rkz f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
If you're having problems with DDOS attacks then report them to their ISP If you manage to get a hold of their IP that is. Michael Krasnow wrote: > Drunken F00l made a plugin that stops ddos attacks > > http://sourceop.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=9 > > it really works! > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:16 PM, wrote: > > >> Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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because they can't be bothered to police Steam Groups. I would personally rather have them focus on other things, such as releasing Episode 3 and updates to games. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:16:15 + > From: shorec...@comcast.net > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You > > Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Search, add, and share the web’s latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Drunken F00l made a plugin that stops ddos attacks http://sourceop.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=9 it really works! On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:16 PM, wrote: > Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Why does Valve allow these Steam groups to continue to exist? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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How do they even do that... Theres no use to ban them from sourcebans because their IPs can still DDOS. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Donnie Newlove wrote: > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mayicrashyoursourceserver > > The members are hidden but can be found with some help from my little > friend if you're persistent enough. > > http://www.google.com/search?q=site:steamcommunity.com+ > "May+I+crash+your+Source+server%3F" > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Donnie Newlove > wrote: > > Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using A2C_PRINT. > > > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb > > > > And some pirate groups but since these guys don't even own the game > > it's pretty much a total waste of time and if they do buy and end up > > already being banned... well, look at it as a bonus. > > > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shadowofl4d > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/torrent_lt > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GHETTOKING > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Donnie Newlove > > wrote: > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackersunite > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gtpclan > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cshackerz > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EH > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MP-Hacks > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/darkcheats > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PureHackZ > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackorz > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Donnie Newlove > >> wrote: > >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Get-legit Cheating site > >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gHzOwnzUNigga Appears to be > >>> associated with the group above > >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nsgwp Nazi group with multiple > >>> members from the cheating group above > >>> > >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Donnie Newlove > >>> wrote: > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove > wrote: > > Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most > > active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything > > about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, > > there are a few "hater" groups like this, chrisaster got one as well > > and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan > > club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC > > banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no > > one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those > > groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the > > wrong ones. > > > > And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) > > > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper > wrote: > >> Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question > on a > >> few of them though that I did not add: > >> > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa > >> Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an > >> offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling > "hacks" to > >> me for them. > >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol > >> Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see > >> anything in particularly wrong with this group. > >> > >> Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of > that > >> nature? > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: > >>> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I > would > >>> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking > >>> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite > >>> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of > >>> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to > >>> dream about people being this dumb). > >>> > >>> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and > checking > >>> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active > ones, > >>> groups with many VAC banned members, members t
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/mayicrashyoursourceserver The members are hidden but can be found with some help from my little friend if you're persistent enough. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:steamcommunity.com+"May+I+crash+your+Source+server%3F"; On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Donnie Newlove wrote: > Cracking/hacking groups, same people that spam servers using A2C_PRINT. > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csrinru > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dz-community > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warez-bb > > And some pirate groups but since these guys don't even own the game > it's pretty much a total waste of time and if they do buy and end up > already being banned... well, look at it as a bonus. > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/shadowofl4d > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/torrent_lt > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GHETTOKING > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Donnie Newlove > wrote: >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackersunite >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gtpclan >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cshackerz >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/EH >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MP-Hacks >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/darkcheats >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PureHackZ >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hackorz >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Donnie Newlove >> wrote: >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Get-legit Cheating site >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gHzOwnzUNigga Appears to be >>> associated with the group above >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nsgwp Nazi group with multiple >>> members from the cheating group above >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Donnie Newlove >>> wrote: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove wrote: > Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most > active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything > about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, > there are a few "hater" groups like this, chrisaster got one as well > and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan > club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC > banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no > one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those > groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the > wrong ones. > > And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper wrote: >> Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a >> few of them though that I did not add: >> >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa >> Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an >> offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling "hacks" to >> me for them. >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol >> Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see >> anything in particularly wrong with this group. >> >> Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that >> nature? >> >> >> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: >>> Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would >>> ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking >>> around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite >>> useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of >>> known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to >>> dream about people being this dumb). >>> >>> I started off simply by searching for "hacking" and such and checking >>> admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, >>> groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many >>> suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted >>> cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S >>> players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful >>> links if you find any. Peace out. >>> >>> >>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike >>> http://stea
