RE: [hlds_linux] gearbox directory aka opposing force

2004-03-18 Thread HLDS List
I just copied the .so over from an old linux installation.
Not elegant, but it worked.

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Subject: [hlds_linux] gearbox directory aka opposing force


There is no .so in the dlls folder and the liblist.gam has no linux line yet
I'm allowed to ./steam this to my box.



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[hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread wouter v/d Bergh
http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65878goto=newpost

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Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Clark

an empty server
cpu% mem%
24.7 48.4

metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player management utilities





On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 04:40:25PM +, wouter v/d Bergh wrote:
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Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread dual_bereta_r0x
James Clark wrote:
an empty server
cpu% mem%
24.7 48.4
metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player management utilities
don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D

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Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread Matt Judge
They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.

The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they
have contributed.
They haven't got a fscking clue.

Matt.

dual_bereta_r0x wrote:

James Clark wrote:

an empty server
cpu% mem%
24.7 48.4
metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player management
utilities


don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D

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Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread Matt Judge
I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code with...


Matt Judge wrote:

They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.

The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they
have contributed.
They haven't got a fscking clue.

Matt.

dual_bereta_r0x wrote:

James Clark wrote:

an empty server
cpu% mem%
24.7 48.4
metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player management
utilities


don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D

--
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Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Clark

I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of
stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold
things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what.

a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint
hint =D  the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/



On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote:
 I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
 lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
 contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code with...



 Matt Judge wrote:

 They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.
 
 The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they
 have contributed.
 
 They haven't got a fscking clue.
 
 Matt.
 
 dual_bereta_r0x wrote:
 
 James Clark wrote:
 
 an empty server
 cpu% mem%
 24.7 48.4
 
 metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player management
 utilities
 
 
 
 don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D
 
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 ArenaNetwork Lan House  Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br
 
 
 
 
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RE: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Sykes
I would rather they didn't _WASTE_ time on a Linux client.
If you want to play games then stick to Windows.

My main concern is CPU usage. Two years ago I was running 8 servers on a
machine that is now having problems running 4.

I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where have
all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great
improvements.

/rant




-Original Message-
From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?


I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of
stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold
things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what.

a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint
hint =D  the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/



On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote:
 I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
 lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
 contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code
with...



 Matt Judge wrote:

 They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.
 
 The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they
 have contributed.
 
 They haven't got a fscking clue.
 
 Matt.
 
 dual_bereta_r0x wrote:
 
 James Clark wrote:
 
 an empty server
 cpu% mem%
 24.7 48.4
 
 metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player
management
 utilities
 
 
 
 don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D
 
 --
 dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest
 ArenaNetwork Lan House  Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br
 
 
 
 
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[OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Clark
 If you want to play games then stick to Windows.

No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

I can play these games under linux:
  enemy-territory
  ut2004
  never winter nights
  doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen)
  quake3

There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games,
it's just marketshare guff.  I'd even buy CS again for a client port,
I imagine others would too.  We all also know the steam client works
well under linux aswell.

I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen.

 I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where have
 all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great
 improvements.

It ramped up horribly with voice chat, security modules and in game
hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff.


 /rant




 -Original Message-
 From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?


 I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of
 stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold
 things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what.

 a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint
 hint =D  the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/



 On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote:
  I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
  lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
  contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code
 with...
 
 
 
  Matt Judge wrote:
 
  They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.
  
  The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they
  have contributed.
  
  They haven't got a fscking clue.
  
  Matt.
  
  dual_bereta_r0x wrote:
  
  James Clark wrote:
  
  an empty server
  cpu% mem%
  24.7 48.4
  
  metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player
 management
  utilities
  
  
  
  don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D
  
  --
  dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest
  ArenaNetwork Lan House  Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br
  
  
  
  
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RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Sykes
 No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

It's a waste of developer time.

For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large
enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on
such an aging game. Use Winex or something.


-Original Message-
From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 02:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

 If you want to play games then stick to Windows.

No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

I can play these games under linux:
  enemy-territory
  ut2004
  never winter nights
  doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen)
  quake3

There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games,
it's just marketshare guff.  I'd even buy CS again for a client port,
I imagine others would too.  We all also know the steam client works
well under linux aswell.

I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen.

 I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where
have
 all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great
 improvements.

It ramped up horribly with voice chat, security modules and in game
hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff.


 /rant




 -Original Message-
 From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?


 I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of
 stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold
 things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what.

 a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint
 hint =D  the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/



 On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote:
  I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
  lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
  contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code
 with...
 
 
 
  Matt Judge wrote:
 
  They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.
  
  The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little
they
  have contributed.
  
  They haven't got a fscking clue.
  
  Matt.
  
  dual_bereta_r0x wrote:
  
  James Clark wrote:
  
  an empty server
  cpu% mem%
  24.7 48.4
  
  metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player
 management
  utilities
  
  
  
  don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D
  
  --
  dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest
  ArenaNetwork Lan House  Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br
  
  
  
  
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Re: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Clark
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:45:18AM -, James Sykes wrote:
  No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

 It's a waste of developer time.

Not when it's done from the outset.  It also helps find bugs, that may
not have been found otherwise.

 For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large
 enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on
 such an aging game. Use Winex or something.

Like I said, marketshare guff.

You must have an MSCE  =D




 -Original Message-
 From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 March 2004 02:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

  If you want to play games then stick to Windows.

 No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

 I can play these games under linux:
   enemy-territory
   ut2004
   never winter nights
   doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen)
   quake3

 There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games,
 it's just marketshare guff.  I'd even buy CS again for a client port,
 I imagine others would too.  We all also know the steam client works
 well under linux aswell.

 I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen.

  I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where
 have
  all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great
  improvements.

 It ramped up horribly with voice chat, security modules and in game
 hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff.

 
  /rant
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
 
 
  I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of
  stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold
  things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what.
 
  a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint
  hint =D  the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/
 
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote:
   I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
   lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
   contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code
  with...
  
  
  
   Matt Judge wrote:
  
   They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.
   
   The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little
 they
   have contributed.
   
   They haven't got a fscking clue.
   
   Matt.
   
   dual_bereta_r0x wrote:
   
   James Clark wrote:
   
   an empty server
   cpu% mem%
   24.7 48.4
   
   metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player
  management
   utilities
   
   
   
   don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D
   
   --
   dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest
   ArenaNetwork Lan House  Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br
   
   
   
   
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RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread James Sykes
I think it will be a good few years at LEAST before you start seeing
widespread adoption of Linux clients.

As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take to
develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make.

Market share Guff? Not basic business sense then?


-Original Message-
From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2004 03:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:45:18AM -, James Sykes wrote:
  No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

 It's a waste of developer time.

Not when it's done from the outset.  It also helps find bugs, that may
not have been found otherwise.

 For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large
 enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on
 such an aging game. Use Winex or something.

Like I said, marketshare guff.

You must have an MSCE  =D




 -Original Message-
 From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 March 2004 02:16 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

  If you want to play games then stick to Windows.

 No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?

 I can play these games under linux:
   enemy-territory
   ut2004
   never winter nights
   doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen)
   quake3

 There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games,
 it's just marketshare guff.  I'd even buy CS again for a client port,
 I imagine others would too.  We all also know the steam client works
 well under linux aswell.

 I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen.

  I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where
 have
  all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great
  improvements.

 It ramped up horribly with voice chat, security modules and in game
 hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff.

 
  /rant
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
 
 
  I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner
of
  stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that
hold
  things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what.
 
  a native linux client would breath some more life into the game,
hint
  hint =D  the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/
 
 
 
  On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote:
   I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been
   lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and
   contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code
  with...
  
  
  
   Matt Judge wrote:
  
   They have added nothing to this game since they bought it.
   
   The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little
 they
   have contributed.
   
   They haven't got a fscking clue.
   
   Matt.
   
   dual_bereta_r0x wrote:
   
   James Clark wrote:
   
   an empty server
   cpu% mem%
   24.7 48.4
   
   metamod + amxmod,  cs is unplayable without _real_ player
  management
   utilities
   
   
   
   don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D
   
   --
   dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest
   ArenaNetwork Lan House  Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br
   
   
   
   
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[hlds_linux] Re: linux client

2004-03-18 Thread Ender
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James Sykes wrote:

No.  Fuck that.  Why should I _have_ to?



It's a waste of developer time.

For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large
enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on
such an aging game. Use Winex or something.





This is a pretty stupid statement, If it ran natively on linux/unix,
then there would be more percentage of players using it on linux.
Chicken and egg problem. You got to start somewhere.
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RE: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?

2004-03-18 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of James Sykes:
 I would rather they didn't _WASTE_ time on a Linux client.
 If you want to play games then stick to Windows.

My version of Windows is no longer supported. Can you send me $200 to
upgrade it so I can play my $20 game?

Thanks!

-Mad

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A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a
proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

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[hlds_linux] Hz values ?

2004-03-18 Thread Blobzor
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I stopped admining when i was on cs 1.5 but i am back in bizness, and i would like to 
know what is the exact name for the parameter named hz
like sv_hz 100 ?
and can i add sys_ticrate into server.cfg or it's a command line option ?
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Re: [hlds_linux] Hz values ?

2004-03-18 Thread Maarten van der Zwaart
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:36:43AM +0100, Blobzor wrote:
 and can i add sys_ticrate into server.cfg or it's a command line option ?

sys_ticrate is a normal cvar, you can set it where you want.

Maarten

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