Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
providing you can deal with the electical and heat tension On 6/23/05, Matt Donnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the price performance ratio of the Athlon X2 64 might be better than going with Opterons. true, but you cant put two (or four, or eight) of those in the one chassis athlon X2 = current dual oppy dual-dual oppy = two dual oppys it all comes down to rack density and number crunching per RU ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
providing you can deal with the electical and heat tension also true, but its still significantly lower than the Intel offerings. Besides any chassis rated to take dual cores will have suitable cooling. It just requires your rack to have likewise. Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
amd's dual cores don't make any more heat than single cores, actually On 6/23/05, Matt Donnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: providing you can deal with the electical and heat tension also true, but its still significantly lower than the Intel offerings. Besides any chassis rated to take dual cores will have suitable cooling. It just requires your rack to have likewise. Matt -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
amd's dual cores don't make any more heat than single cores, actually I dont know where you read that, but it is incorrect. AMD-DC have a higher heat load than equlivalent clock AMD-SC. Thankfully, its still lower than the Intel prescott single core TDP (and DC as well) which to my mind makes them a very easy choice as a server for almost any function. Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
yeah, you're right and I stand corrected, 89 watts vs 110 watts. I guess what I was thinking of was their heat output didn't prevent them from going in any socket 939 board that's followed AMD's specs all along. Because they still match earlier design specs in that regard. On 6/23/05, Matt Donnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont know where you read that, but it is incorrect. AMD-DC have a higher heat load than equlivalent clock AMD-SC. Thankfully, its still lower than the Intel prescott single core TDP (and DC as well) which to my mind makes them a very easy choice as a server for almost any function. Matt -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
yeah, you're right and I stand corrected, 89 watts vs 110 watts. I guess what I was thinking of was their heat output didn't prevent them from going in any socket 939 board that's followed AMD's specs all along. Because they still match earlier design specs in that regard. heh, it still makes them an incrediably attractive option. Quad CPU performance in a dual CPU chassis, space and thermal design. The price tag does offer a little bit of sticker shock, but thats easily overcome when you look at the equlivalent performance quad-cpu box. I've got a pair of them sitting next to me, hopefully the 1ru chassis with a DC capable BIOS wll be turning up next week. The BIOS in the current 1ru chassis is having a little bit of a freakout at the extra cores ;-( Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
What model Opteron SC are you using currently? What model DC are you upgrading to? Ryan - Original Message - From: Matt Donnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions? yeah, you're right and I stand corrected, 89 watts vs 110 watts. I guess what I was thinking of was their heat output didn't prevent them from going in any socket 939 board that's followed AMD's specs all along. Because they still match earlier design specs in that regard. heh, it still makes them an incrediably attractive option. Quad CPU performance in a dual CPU chassis, space and thermal design. The price tag does offer a little bit of sticker shock, but thats easily overcome when you look at the equlivalent performance quad-cpu box. I've got a pair of them sitting next to me, hopefully the 1ru chassis with a DC capable BIOS wll be turning up next week. The BIOS in the current 1ru chassis is having a little bit of a freakout at the extra cores ;-( Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
I think it is pretty obvious from past threads that at least most of this mailing list agrees that Opterons are the processor of choice for hosting any CS servers. But now with the emergence of the dual core Opterons does anyone have any experience in a server hosting/admining way of how the dual core Opterons handle? I know there is about a 3x price tag for a dual core than of the same frequency single core, but would it be worth the investment? Definately Opterons are, and especially the abiltiy to upgrade to dual core without changing the motherboard. Any comments? I hadn't seen any comments on this so I thought I'd throw it out there and see what the server admins thought. Ryan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
This is something I am curious about myself. I am looking to build a new CS server and I was thinking about getting a dual core machine. The price however...ouch. I don't really expect many responses because I doubt many game server providers can afford the stiff price tag. On 6/22/05, Ryan burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is pretty obvious from past threads that at least most of this mailing list agrees that Opterons are the processor of choice for hosting any CS servers. But now with the emergence of the dual core Opterons does anyone have any experience in a server hosting/admining way of how the dual core Opterons handle? I know there is about a 3x price tag for a dual core than of the same frequency single core, but would it be worth the investment? Definately Opterons are, and especially the abiltiy to upgrade to dual core without changing the motherboard. Any comments? I hadn't seen any comments on this so I thought I'd throw it out there and see what the server admins thought. Ryan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
I think it is pretty obvious from past threads that at least most of this mailing list agrees that Opterons are the processor of choice for hosting any CS servers. But now with the emergence of the dual core Opterons does anyone have any experience in a server hosting/admining way of how the dual core Opterons handle? for all intents and purposes, dual-dual-cores handle like a quad-opteron its compleatly and utterly brilliant I'd suggest the DC can handle almost double the client numbers of the SC procs (as long as you have the ram). Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
I think the price performance ratio of the Athlon X2 64 might be better than going with Opterons. Matt Donnon wrote: I think it is pretty obvious from past threads that at least most of this mailing list agrees that Opterons are the processor of choice for hosting any CS servers. But now with the emergence of the dual core Opterons does anyone have any experience in a server hosting/admining way of how the dual core Opterons handle? for all intents and purposes, dual-dual-cores handle like a quad-opteron its compleatly and utterly brilliant I'd suggest the DC can handle almost double the client numbers of the SC procs (as long as you have the ram). Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Dual core Opteron Opinions?
I think the price performance ratio of the Athlon X2 64 might be better than going with Opterons. true, but you cant put two (or four, or eight) of those in the one chassis athlon X2 = current dual oppy dual-dual oppy = two dual oppys it all comes down to rack density and number crunching per RU ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux