Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work? On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can send those details directly to me. - Alfred Lubo wrote: I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send them to him, to add protection against them to VAC? __ http://sport.sme.sk - Najkomplexnejšie informácie zo športu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
My response: I hope you have many many admins. There would be at least one cheater a day on my server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Luckow Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work? On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can send those details directly to me. - Alfred Lubo wrote: I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send them to him, to add protection against them to VAC? __ http://sport.sme.sk - Najkomplexnejšie informácie zo športu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
I have to agree exactly 100% what Dan just said. Lots of active admins keeps cheaters away. VAC only keeps the already banned off. -ics Dan E kirjoitti: My response: I hope you have many many admins. There would be at least one cheater a day on my server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Luckow Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work? On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can send those details directly to me. - Alfred Lubo wrote: I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send them to him, to add protection against them to VAC? __ http://sport.sme.sk - Najkomplexnejšie informácie zo športu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
So you know how VAC works? It does _delayed_ ban on the player, if cheating is detected. This can be anywhere from 3 days from now to week afaik (if at all, cheat = VAC-proof, not detected by VAC). I myself, i trust my admins. They dont need to take demo from speedhackers because they are so obvious. Aimbotters are too. They cant mask that horrible crosshair jumping or shaking depending from the cheat at hand. From wallhackers, i demand demo's and then they can ban. If someone comes to complain, the demo comes in handy but usually no one comes. Guilty as charged. -ics René Luckow kirjoitti: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So VAC don't update that regularly? Is there anything new to watch for or jst the regular wallhack/aimbot stuff? Any website ressources to pull from? At the moment I only have about 10 admins that game maybe a couple of times a week, as the server has just been started again. How do you deal with bans/complaints, are your admins required to record cheaters for later inspection, maybe? On 8/3/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree exactly 100% what Dan just said. Lots of active admins keeps cheaters away. VAC only keeps the already banned off. -ics Dan E kirjoitti: My response: I hope you have many many admins. There would be at least one cheater a day on my server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Luckow Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work? On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can send those details directly to me. - Alfred Lubo wrote: I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send them to him, to add protection against them to VAC? __ http://sport.sme.sk - Najkomplexnejšie informácie zo športu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
Active and experienced admins are your best weapon against cheaters. I would also recomend joining an anti-cheat organisation which verify and sync bans. Here in Norway, several large communities has joined forces against cheaters via an organisation named Radar. All members of Radar share their bans (after radar-admins have approved the demos) - giving us a much more efficient way of dealing with cheaters. The most common cheats are still WH, aimbot and no-recoil. Though most are quite easy to spot, a few designer cheats has emerged the last year or so, with much more possibilites for the user to tweak. These are alot more sophisticated, and the usual give-aways are more subtle. One of the most common mistakes a skilled cheater does, is to often forget to check dangerous spots as long as there is noe real danger there - since they of course already know this. This may be a sign for admins to start recording a few demos of the player. To analyze demos, I have a nice config here that might help you: // F1 10% speed // F2 50% speed // F3 100% speed // F4 500% speed // F5 pause/resume demo // F6 DEMOUI console // F7 Wireframe // F8 Wallhack // F9 Mat_Proxy WH cycle on/off (alternative wh, press 2x) // F10 Sound ESP (ukjent purpose) // F11 minimodels on/off (for admin wh - used in combination with a 3. party WH for demoanlyze) // F12 Interpolate impacts on/off (for aimbot detection) echo F1 10% hastighet; echo F2 50% hastighet; echo F3 100% hastighet; echo F4 500% hastighet; echo F5 resume/pause demo echo F6 DEMOUI console echo F7 Wireframe echo F8 Wallhack echo F9 Mat_Proxy WH cycle on/off echo F10 Sound ESP echo F11 minimodels on/off echo F12 Interpolate on/off + impacts on (for aimbot detection) sv_cheats 1; // Developer meldinger alias devoff developer -1; con_notifytime 0 alias devon con_notifytime 4; developer 1 contimes 4 alias interpolate interon; alias interon sv_cheats 1; sv_client_interpolate 0; cl_interpolate 0; sv_showimpacts 1; devon; echo ** cl_interpolate off **; devoff; alias interpolate interoff;; alias interoff sv_client_interpolate 1; cl_interpolate 1; show_showimpacts 0; devon; echo ** cl_interpolate on **; devoff; alias interpolate interon;; bind F12 interpolate; alias minmod minon; alias minon cl_minmodels 1; cl_min_ct 1; cl_min_t 1; alias minmod minoff; devon; echo ** cl_minmodels on (1) **; devoff; alias minoff cl_min_ct 2; cl_min_t 3; alias minmod minalloff; devon; echo ** cl_minmodels on (2/3) **; devoff; alias minalloff cl_minmodels 0; alias minmod minon; devon; echo ** cl_minmodels off **; devoff; bind F11 minmod; bind F1 demo_timescale 0.1; devon; echo ** 10% hastighet **; devoff; bind F2 demo_timescale 0.5; devon; echo ** 50% hastighet **; devoff; bind F3 demo_timescale 1; devon; echo ** 100% hastighet **; devoff; bind F4 demo_timescale 5; devon; echo ** 500% hastighet **; devoff; bind F6 demoui; alias demorun demoresume; alias demoresume demo_resume; alias demorun demopause; devon; echo ** Demo resumed **; devoff; alias demopause demo_pause; alias demorun demoresume; devon; echo ** Demo paused **; devoff; bind F5 demorun; // mat proxy: alias water00 mat_proxy 2; alias waterUp water01 alias water01 mat_proxy 1; alias waterUp water00 alias waterUp water00 bind F9 waterUp //example sound esp: alias sndesp00 snd_show 1;snd_visualize 1;alias sndespUp sndesp01 alias sndesp01 snd_show 1;snd_visualize 1;snd_showmixer 1;alias sndespUp sndesp02 alias sndesp02 snd_show 0;snd_visualize 0;snd_showmixer 0;alias sndespUp sndesp00 alias sndespUp sndesp00 bind F10 sndespUp // example wirefame: alias wireframe00 mat_measurefillrate 0;mat_luxels 0;alias wireUp wireframe09 alias wireframe09 mat_wireframe 0;mat_measurefillrate 1;mat_luxels 0;alias wireUp wireframe00 alias wireUp wireframe00 bind F7 wireUp // example wallhack: alias wall00 mat_depthbias_normal 0;mat_luxels 0;r_drawopaquerenderables 1;mat_reversedepth 0;alias wallUp wall01 alias wall01 mat_depthbias_normal 1;alias wallUp wall02 alias wall02 mat_depthbias_normal 1;mat_luxels 1;alias wallUp wall03 alias wall03 wa6;mat_depthbias_normal 1;mat_reversedepth 1;mat_luxels 0;alias wallUp wall04 alias wall04 wa6;mat_depthbias_normal 0;mat_reversedepth 1;mat_luxels 0;alias wallUp wall05 alias wall05 wa6;mat_depthbias_normal 0;mat_reversedepth 1;mat_luxels 1;alias wallUp wall06 alias wall06 r_drawopaquerenderables 0;alias wallUp wall00 alias wallUp wall00 bind F8 wallUp From: René Luckow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:33:14 +0200 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So VAC don't update that regularly? Is there anything new to watch for or jst the regular wallhack/aimbot stuff? Any website ressources to pull from? At the moment I only have about 10 admins that game maybe a couple of times a week, as the server has just been started again. How do you deal with bans
Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So VAC don't update that regularly? Is there anything new to watch for or jst the regular wallhack/aimbot stuff? Any website ressources to pull from? At the moment I only have about 10 admins that game maybe a couple of times a week, as the server has just been started again. How do you deal with bans/complaints, are your admins required to record cheaters for later inspection, maybe? On 8/3/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree exactly 100% what Dan just said. Lots of active admins keeps cheaters away. VAC only keeps the already banned off. -ics Dan E kirjoitti: My response: I hope you have many many admins. There would be at least one cheater a day on my server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Luckow Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:37 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SInce I've been out of the loop for three years or so, could any of you guys tell me how effective VAC is nowadays? I mean, should I still look for cheaters or just rest safely knowing that VAC will do my dirty work? On 7/30/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can send those details directly to me. - Alfred Lubo wrote: I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send them to him, to add protection against them to VAC? __ http://sport.sme.sk - Najkomplexnejšie informácie zo športu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [VAC] Cheats
You can send those details directly to me. - Alfred Lubo wrote: I have a question. Too many working cheats get to me theese days. Is there somebody in Valve, who is interested in theese, so I can send them to him, to add protection against them to VAC? __ http://sport.sme.sk - Najkomplexnejšie informácie zo športu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
