[Hornlist] Re: fingering

2002-11-07 Thread JKosta
Prof.Hans Pizka writes:

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If the player plays on the knee or leans on his horn, no wonder that the high register gets flat.
...


I would like to hear more about Hans' comment - is this a well known problem
with playing on-the-knee(leg)?  What posture and/or righthand technique is
used for good high register intonation by on-the-leg players? Do OFF-the-leg
players adjust their upper-body posture for the range they are playing?

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA
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[Hornlist] Re Winston Horns

2002-11-07 Thread Wright, Jim
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 Does anyone ever play, or has anyone ever played, a Winston horn?  I'm

 currently playing an Elkhart M-series 8D, and looking for a backup
horn
 to use when mine is in the shop (annual cleanout, etc.).  How do
Winston
 horns compare with the 8D?  Any help appreciated - thanks!

Don't know about the Winstons, but for the purpose you mention, why not
look at the current Atkinson A800 made in U.S.A.? www.atkinsonhorns.com.
Talk with Mark Atkinson. I'm playing one (as a devoted amateur) and
think it's great. I had been playing a Conn 11D. For the rest of this
year the price is $1,650. Nickel plated. Bell copy of pre-war Kruspe,
which I think is similar to your M-series.

Jim Wright

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Re: [Hornlist] Gugel Finger Buster

2002-11-07 Thread rjmartz . lists
Actually, Gugel called it a wrist buster.
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 Yep. I fingered through it at home and haven't taken it to a practice room
 yet.

 Its a finger buster but I have seen worse.

 Just try doing any of the latter Kopprash etudes in E... as fast as
 possible...

 -William

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2002-11-07 Thread updates
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[Hornlist] Re: Horn on leg

2002-11-07 Thread Brent Shires
Jay Kosta wrote:

I would like to hear more about Hans' comment - is this a well
known problem with playing on-the-knee(leg)?  What posture
and/or righthand technique is used for good high register intonation
by on-the-leg players? Do OFF-the-leg players adjust their upper-
body posture for the range they are playing?



Jay, the biggest issue has to do with face-to-mouthpiece angle,
and subsequent pressure on the top lip.  Many players I deal with
at the high school and college level have never been exposed to the
idea that proper basic embouchure requires no top lip pressure, at
least not beyond what it takes to seal the airflow inside the
mouthpiece. These students often started out on horn being told to
put the bell on the leg for practical reasons of weight and effort.
Many have their heads lowered, digging into the top mouthpiece
rim and pressing as hard as possible, often in spite of the pain.
They can achieve high range this way, but no stamina or quality
tone.

As they grow older, and their torsos expand, their posture doesn't
accommodate the change which occurs in the leadpipe angle.  As
a result, these students are seen playing leaning forward, bells
planted on the leg, still with the top lip deeply anchored on the top
rim.  Albeit with no endurance, these players still manage to play
high and impress people, allowing them to survive in municipal
bands and community orchestras where sometimes tenure is only
about seniority and politics.

I always point my students to this great book I've found, offred
through the Carles Colin Conference for Brass Scholarships, called
Chops.  You can clearly see all these professional gigging brass
players and their embouchures.  About 90% of the hornists have
the proper angle for great range, flexibility and endurance -
somewhere around a 45° downward angle or so.  I ask them, If
this is the standard in New York, and it's working for all of them,
can you really argue against it?

I'll leave it to someone else to answer about the right hand--

Hope it helps more than hurts-
Brent


Brent A. Shires, Instructor of Horn
University of Central Arkansas:  Conway, AR  72035
Phone: 501-450-5768
Fax:   501-450-5773
Web: http://www.uca.edu/divisions/academic/arts/music/faculty/bshires.htm
3rd Horn Arkansas Symphony Orchestra;
Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp Horn Instructor;
IHS Regional Workshop Coordinator  Arkansas Area Rep.;
Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia Province 4 Governor
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[Hornlist] Concerto Competitions, etc.

2002-11-07 Thread Valkhorn
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I would like to know which local or regional symphony orchestras or anything
will be hosting Concerto or Solo competitions, preferably in the Southeast US
anytime from now until next year.

Any help is appreciated!

-William
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