RE: [Hornlist] Presperation
Michael, if you hold a lacquered horn even your hand sweating acidic a lot, the shiny are does not get dull so quickly as you describe. How long (in weeks) do you have the horn ? A T-shirt is not the right "towel" to wipe away the finger prints, as the T-shirt contains a lot of your sweat perhaps. Get a 2-pack of these micro fibre mini towels at your super market next door for 2.-USD and clean away these finger prints at any "pause" you will have during playing sessions. I doubt, if your horn is lacquered. If it was "mirror looking" & is not now, then the horn is not lacquered. Do not try to delegate sloppiness from yourself to the producers of goods you bought. The (eventual) blame is on you not on them regarding understanding things & changing a certain behaviour & implementing a different attitude. Quite simple. And, as the horn was mirror like at the beginning, it was superbly polished, as to expect from YAMAHA, but perhaps NOT lacquered. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Presperation Hello everyone, I was wondering how you can tell if your presperation is really acidic. My hands sweat alot when I'm playing my horn, and by the time I'm done practicing, the horn goes from nice clean and shiny to ugly grime over it, particularly the hand guard area and the inside of the bell. I wipe it down with a t shirt during playing, but completly wipe down everything with laquer cloth once a week. Im playinng on a Yamaha 668NDII, and I'm assuming its laquered Some spots seem to have a less shiny area and like some dull little specks (i got the horn like that new, could the laquer have been applied thinly to that area? Or just something that makes the metal not so mirror looking?) Best, Mike ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Presperation
Hello everyone, I was wondering how you can tell if your presperation is really acidic. My hands sweat alot when I'm playing my horn, and by the time I'm done practicing, the horn goes from nice clean and shiny to ugly grime over it, particularly the hand guard area and the inside of the bell. I wipe it down with a t shirt during playing, but completly wipe down everything with laquer cloth once a week. Im playinng on a Yamaha 668NDII, and I'm assuming its laquered Some spots seem to have a less shiny area and like some dull little specks (i got the horn like that new, could the laquer have been applied thinly to that area? Or just something that makes the metal not so mirror looking?) Best, Mike ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Valve Oil
I've been satisfied with a 'do it myself' blend of sewing machine oil and Ultra-Pure Unscented Lamp Oil (pure kerosene). I blend them together to get a mix that works well depending on the seasonal temperature. I use this on the bearing ends under the valve caps, and in the gap under the swing-arm for the other bearing ends. I mix the oil in a small bottle that has an eye-dropper lid. Jay Kosta Endwell NY ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Trumpet
All. Being extremely busy this past year (very long story) I'm cross posting instead of finding time to surf the IN. Should there be a website where I can research F E Olds trumpet s/ns I'd be much obliged for the info. Please. No Political Correctness. I haven't the time to spar. Take care. GN NAPUDA ASSOC. Pennsville NJ, G Napuda-owner Management, Technical & TQM Consulting ENGINEERING: ANS,ASQ,DOD,DOE,NRC,IAEA & nat'l-intn'l Power Plant Utilities MUSIC: AFM (Life Member),IHS (NJ Rep),US Army, Grade School-College, & Freelance ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] The dreaded low register.
These long distance analyses don't work very well. If you have a horn teacher, check with him/her. In the meantime get a copy of Randy Gardner's book on low horn playing. I don't recall the exact title, but it should be an awesome help for you. Try sending your message to him at [EMAIL PROTECTED] [He is retired from 2nd horn of Philadelphia orchestra.] CORdially, Paul Mansur On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, at 04:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been a good low horn player since I started playing four years ago, but recently my articulation has gone by the wayside down low, as has my controlled sound. I am having trouble making a noise other than splatters. I can sustain the notes, but they just don't sound good. My articulation is also not great and the notes are just not speaking like they normaly would. I have thought over why it has happened, and it probably has to do with how many auditions, festivals, etc. that I have had in the past two months. It has affected a few of my auditions, especially on things like Beethoven 3 and Til Eulenspiegel. What I want is suggestions on how to repair my low range. As a side note, oddly enough, my high range has been improving much faster than in the past. Just thought that may be a useful piece of info for someone. Michael Scheimer, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, High School Student ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pmansur%40bellsouth.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Practicing with mute
you want a horn that plays as stuffy as the horn plays with a mute in? never heard that one before :) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, all. > >I've been limited to practicing with a mute a > lot, and can't help but notice that it's easier to > play with a mute in. > > Is this because the horn is shorter (meaning the > sound waves go a shorter distance) with the mute in? > > I just wish I could find a horn that played that > way with the mute out! > > Any ideas? > > Bill Lynn > Camp Red Cloud, Korea > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/nafai23%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Valve Oil
I use Binak 495. It is a synthetic that works well on rotors, bearings, and even slides. Old oil must be cleaned out first. The only horns I don't use it on are my baroque horns. Carl Bangs D. Powers wrote: I am a new horn player (switched from 30+ years on the trombone) and am looking for a valve oil that is a little more durable than the Holton rotary oil that came with the horn. I am playing a Conn student model double horn until I can justify moving up in the world. Thanks in advance for your input. Dave Powers ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bangs%40cet.com . ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] re: Practicing with mute
Hi, all. I've been limited to practicing with a mute a lot, and can't help but notice that it's easier to play with a mute in. Is this because the horn is shorter (meaning the sound waves go a shorter distance) with the mute in? I just wish I could find a horn that played that way with the mute out! Any ideas? Bill Lynn Camp Red Cloud, Korea ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] The dreaded low register.
I have been a good low horn player since I started playing four years ago, but recently my articulation has gone by the wayside down low, as has my controlled sound. I am having trouble making a noise other than splatters. I can sustain the notes, but they just don't sound good. My articulation is also not great and the notes are just not speaking like they normaly would. I have thought over why it has happened, and it probably has to do with how many auditions, festivals, etc. that I have had in the past two months. It has affected a few of my auditions, especially on things like Beethoven 3 and Til Eulenspiegel. What I want is suggestions on how to repair my low range. As a side note, oddly enough, my high range has been improving much faster than in the past. Just thought that may be a useful piece of info for someone. Michael Scheimer, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, High School Student ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Valve Oil
I suggest you find the Lawson web site and check out Walter's material concerning Lubrication and lubricants. It would be helpful and can save you needless expense. Cheers, Paul Mansur On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, at 01:17 PM, D. Powers wrote: I am a new horn player (switched from 30+ years on the trombone) and am looking for a valve oil that is a little more durable than the Holton rotary oil that came with the horn. I am playing a Conn student model double horn until I can justify moving up in the world. Thanks in advance for your input. Dave Powers ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pmansur%40bellsouth.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Brass Protectors revisited
I'm puzzled. I always thought that 'brass protectors' were those funny plexiglass things mounted on stands that the tech guys place between me and the bassoon section ... Bob Dickow Lionel Hampton School of Music ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] sympathetic vibes II
Larry J wrote Practicing long tones tonight, I noticed that on finishing a concert B-flat, the tone with overtones continued in the room for the longest time. Something in the room was continuing the tone. Upon checking all the areas and objects in the room, the vibrations were coming from the 27-inch Sony TV and my 17-inch computer monitor (both were off). The computer monitor's fundamental was 3rd line concert B-flat and the Sony TV's was an octave higher. The Monitor's audible vibration lasted for 20 seconds, with some overtones out of tune. I noticed these out of tune harmonics too, Larry. I bet you have a flat screen monitor, like I do. They don't make in tune screen monitors, but you can work around this difficulty by getting one of these puppies: http://www.sharpusa.com/products/TypeLanding/0,1056,s74,00.html Gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Valve Oil
I am a new horn player (switched from 30+ years on the trombone) and am looking for a valve oil that is a little more durable than the Holton rotary oil that came with the horn. I am playing a Conn student model double horn until I can justify moving up in the world. Thanks in advance for your input. Dave Powers ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Sympathetic Vibrations
The strange visual 'waviness' patterns are due to interference between the 30 frames per second of the video horizontal scan frequency and the frequencies of vibration in your head and particularly your eyeballs. No kidding. Your head is strobing the video image. Bob Dickow Lionel Hampton School of Music - Original Message - From: "Hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ghost players & ghost noises ! Or may-be the little Japanese inside your TV has studied horn playing ? Who knows. Horn is vbery popular in Japan. == >I had noticed when the TV and monitor were on, they >would get strange >visual >patterns on the screen in response to some tones of my >horn... ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Sympathetic Vibrations
Ghost players & ghost noises ! Or may-be the little Japanese inside your TV has studied horn playing ? Who knows. Horn is vbery popular in Japan. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Jellison Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Sympathetic Vibrations Practicing long tones tonight, I noticed that on finishing a concert B-flat, the tone with overtones continued in the room for the longest time. Something in the room was continuing the tone. Upon checking all the areas and objects in the room, the vibrations were coming from the 27-inch Sony TV and my 17-inch computer monitor (both were off). The computer monitor's fundamental was 3rd line concert B-flat and the Sony TV's was an octave higher. The Monitor's audible vibration lasted for 20 seconds, with some overtones out of tune. Previously, I had noticed when the TV and monitor were on, they would get strange visual patterns on the screen in response to some tones of my horn... then when we have a full moon... What is happening is really listening and becoming aware. Larry Larry ___ Internet Access, Shared & Dedicated Web Hosting. Colocation and Domain Name Registration at http://www.SharedPoint.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Sympathetic Vibrations
Practicing long tones tonight, I noticed that on finishing a concert B-flat, the tone with overtones continued in the room for the longest time. Something in the room was continuing the tone. Upon checking all the areas and objects in the room, the vibrations were coming from the 27-inch Sony TV and my 17-inch computer monitor (both were off). The computer monitor's fundamental was 3rd line concert B-flat and the Sony TV's was an octave higher. The Monitor's audible vibration lasted for 20 seconds, with some overtones out of tune. Previously, I had noticed when the TV and monitor were on, they would get strange visual patterns on the screen in response to some tones of my horn... then when we have a full moon... What is happening is really listening and becoming aware. Larry Larry ___ Internet Access, Shared & Dedicated Web Hosting. Colocation and Domain Name Registration at http://www.SharedPoint.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
