Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would tag it as building=construction. These kinds of buildings are seen commonly all over Africa (we see them in other countries as well but everywhere in Africa I have mapped has had similar features to these). They are buildings which are not yet finished, the walls are up but no roof on it so you are looking down into the rooms. The shadows are the key things to look at. You always want to start by looking for some trees or something nearby and then looking at the direction the shadows go and then look at the feature you are wondering about. In this example the shadows go almost directly south (a bit to the west as well) and you can see that in addition to the north/south lines on the edges there are 3 walls running east/west which cast shadows. The length of the shadows gives the height of the walls. All three are the same height and are around the same height as a typical tree and comparable to the other buildings in the area. - -AndrewBuck On 02/02/2016 05:23 PM, althio wrote: > I would guess: a building under construction, with no roof yet. > > It could be something slightly different, like a collapsed roof, or > a specific kind of building intended with no roof. > > Anyway, building=yes would suffice for me, except for very > specific mapping tasks. > > - althio -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWsZ1hAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbazYQAKgFd47BHglouZaMhQLGDq/l IQek9lwVPu36ZMjq+iGD5KceffXW3Mz9B7OHuYLRdppnpJfVQNS4rVM5Ba+M6xoL 2PDiIOJJs70CGMKiSey3V1M8DQhO2yXdCPiM95mfg6dYJdA4+Mmrq4GIHEvXXQQ0 vaXw4diI9yVfeWjsFWFfhKyyqkwpLeRql8W3N7o7BPbjZE9jx1Rj8qSTWrdvtUPq 4hZ2CH2mBB2/LUiiYBsXKX8ssNqCOHED9xeWPHUd51gge+VSKHRdVSUxPUFs5Akp Jf+ELPPLYsHgNnvlpoIrG/x+EFjg5IJXRFJt9/eWf0T4iwMh9ScaavVotHOwZo4I tNWfLhSeoqg5HHOqy8z/m8oAYy9VXwUaLJrccKVZqpmigC0/lZzDtoWBjQ+ClVBC gWqk/YJpYGsvjY6lor0poo/5oXWX/nwPRQJsvM9U7PFhfNjsKCzRCKxbaX3gChvo KaHLuUQmJT2lsSJlsPbmJKkBBMLOD/Q5rgBcJVxJYbNq/6jRshubRRMpObFy85I4 5uBCzJZCQSHlrgSE3tqeM1fzXhcptz8IIJjYR2H29aD5LRJmDi+5q5oh98JgnnFA SIbdnejNKmg8E67VZbDUSlpZ8v542MS2pzTBL+2jngCEPr9zqXTzsNg9iUvMOsDZ VUS/m2IaXbhy/weavCxa =KqCg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
I would guess: a building under construction, with no roof yet. It could be something slightly different, like a collapsed roof, or a specific kind of building intended with no roof. Anyway, building=yes would suffice for me, except for very specific mapping tasks. - althio On 2 February 2016 at 23:46, Mike Thompson wrote: > Here is another example: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394671191 > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, althio wrote: >>> >>> fences/walls. >> >> there are two continuous parallel linear features about three meters >> apart running more or less North-South. Based on the shadows these are the >> same height as the three features that run more or less East-West. >>> >>> >>> Are you looking with a high zoom? It can be quite blurry and pixelated. >> >> I have looked at it from several different zoom levels on both Bing and >> Mapbox. >> > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
Here is another example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394671191 On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, althio wrote: > >> fences/walls. >> > there are two continuous parallel linear features about three meters > apart running more or less North-South. Based on the shadows these are the > same height as the three features that run more or less East-West. > >> >> Are you looking with a high zoom? It can be quite blurry and pixelated. >> > I have looked at it from several different zoom levels on both Bing and > Mapbox. > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, althio wrote: > fences/walls. > there are two continuous parallel linear features about three meters apart running more or less North-South. Based on the shadows these are the same height as the three features that run more or less East-West. > > Are you looking with a high zoom? It can be quite blurry and pixelated. > I have looked at it from several different zoom levels on both Bing and Mapbox. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
> looking at the picture i would guess: not one building, but three round huts > in a row next to each other at very close distance. Same for me. 3 small round structures, I do not see fences/walls. Are you looking with a high zoom? It can be quite blurry and pixelated. I personally find it easier to recognise the features from further away and zoom in for tracing. - althio ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
Henning, Robert, Thanks for your input. If there are three separate huts, they are connected by two north-south running fences/walls. I am still of the opinion that it is the ruins of an old building whose roof has collapsed. Mike On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Henning Bolz wrote: > Hi Mike, Hi Robert, > looking at the picture i would guess: not one building, but three round > huts in a row next to each other at very close distance. > A similar hut can be seen 50m SE. > > Henning (hebolz) > > > > > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 02. Februar 2016 um 07:06 Uhr > *Von:* "Robert Banick" > *An:* "Mike Thompson" , HOT > *Betreff:* Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or? > Hi Mike. I don’t know Swaziland very well but it doesn’t look like a > building to me. A livestock pen perhaps but it’s a bit far from anything > else and very small besides. Perhaps chicken houses? Or a waste pit? > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:32 AM Mike Thompson wrote: > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394119391 >> >> Looks to me like something that was a building once, but whose roof has >> since collapsed. Perhaps someone on this list has on the ground experience >> in a country like this (Swaziland) and can give us some insight. >> >> Mike >> ___ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
Hi Mike, Hi Robert, looking at the picture i would guess: not one building, but three round huts in a row next to each other at very close distance. A similar hut can be seen 50m SE. Henning (hebolz) Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Februar 2016 um 07:06 Uhr Von: "Robert Banick" An: "Mike Thompson" , HOT Betreff: Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or? Hi Mike. I don’t know Swaziland very well but it doesn’t look like a building to me. A livestock pen perhaps but it’s a bit far from anything else and very small besides. Perhaps chicken houses? Or a waste pit? On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:32 AM Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394119391 Looks to me like something that was a building once, but whose roof has since collapsed. Perhaps someone on this list has on the ground experience in a country like this (Swaziland) and can give us some insight. Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
Hi Mike. I don’t know Swaziland very well but it doesn’t look like a building to me. A livestock pen perhaps but it’s a bit far from anything else and very small besides. Perhaps chicken houses? Or a waste pit? On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:32 AM Mike Thompson wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394119391 > > Looks to me like something that was a building once, but whose roof has > since collapsed. Perhaps someone on this list has on the ground experience > in a country like this (Swaziland) and can give us some insight. > > Mike > ___ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394119391 Looks to me like something that was a building once, but whose roof has since collapsed. Perhaps someone on this list has on the ground experience in a country like this (Swaziland) and can give us some insight. Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
