[IAEP] NYT: Two Billion Laptops? It May Not Be Enough

[Sean DALY]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/business/18digi.html?ref=technology

No mention of Sugar, just "laptops".
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Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Caryl;

I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
* I requested and downloaded a developer key
* disabled security (very important!)
* installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc

This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish)

In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
 su
 yum install liveusb-creator

liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)

  >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
   It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900

The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
(Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown 
and restart.)
I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1 
plus on the EeePC900.
(A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on 
the XO-1)

This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's


Tom Gilliard
satellit






Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that, but 
> not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.
>
> Sounds like a "piece of cake." 
>
> Caryl
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
> From: satel...@bendbroadband.com
> To: cbige...@hotmail.com
> CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
> support-g...@laptop.org
> Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>   Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
>
> In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember that 
> while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these fancy 
> work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with  and training 
> other educators who are very shy about using computers. 
>
> For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a 
> "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is 
> doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy, 
> and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
>
> Bert wrote:
>
> The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a. "CDFS 
> (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs, which is 
> read-only.
>
> So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately the 
> live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the usb 
> stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine. 
>
> Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
>
> And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
>
> I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an early 
> version of Strawberry.  I think the Virtual Box would be a deal breaker for a 
> lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd should be 
> quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get a usb 
> version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
>
> After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC 900 
> with Windows XP today.  It will arrive Monday.  I chose to get one with 
> Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route 
> to success... sort of "SoaS for Dummies!"
>
> So... according to the instructions at 
>  you download the 
> blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator.  Rather than downloading all 
> over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on the 
> Mac) and use it?  Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it there?  
> What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this? 
>
>   
>
> Caryl;
>
> YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this:
>
> * Copy-paste the file from the SugarCreation Kit
> CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC
>
> * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the
> EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop.
>
>
>
> * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows:  (See attached .png file)
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
>
> * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with it. 
>
> * Do not do a Download again. use left  select box (use existing live
> CD/ Browse) to find the blueberry.iso on the XP Desktop
>
> * Insert a new target USB  (2GB fat16) into EeePC900 ad see it appear
> in Target Device window
>
> * move slider to set persistence storage (Max it )
>
> *Create Live USB: )
>
> Very simple 
>
>
>
> You can repeat this process for as many USB sticks that you want.
>
>
>
> Tom Gilliard
>
> satellit
>
> -
>

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Gerald Ardito]

I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a
school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our
software from the official build.
How do I "disable security?"

Many thanks.
Gerald

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard <
satel...@bendbroadband.com> wrote:

> Caryl;
>
> I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
> * I requested and downloaded a developer key
> * disabled security (very important!)
> * installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc
>
> This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
> that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and spanish)
>
> In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
>  su
>  yum install liveusb-creator
>
> liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
> 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
> 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)
>
>  >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
>   It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
> This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900
>
> The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
> but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
> (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown
> and restart.)
> I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1
> plus on the EeePC900.
> (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on
> the XO-1)
>
> This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
> while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's
>
>
> Tom Gilliard
> satellit
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> > Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that,
> but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.
> >
> > Sounds like a "piece of cake."
> >
> > Caryl
> >
> > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
> > From: satel...@bendbroadband.com
> > To: cbige...@hotmail.com
> > CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org;
> support-g...@laptop.org
> > Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> >
> >   Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
> >
> > In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember
> that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these
> fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with  and
> training other educators who are very shy about using computers.
> >
> > For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a
> "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is
> doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy,
> and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
> >
> > Bert wrote:
> >
> > The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a. "CDFS
> (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs, which is
> read-only.
> >
> > So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately
> the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run the
> usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine.
> >
> > Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
> >
> > And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
> >
> > I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an
> early version of Strawberry.  I think the Virtual Box would be a deal
> breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper cd
> should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get
> a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
> >
> > After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC
> 900 with Windows XP today.  It will arrive Monday.  I chose to get one with
> Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest route
> to success... sort of "SoaS for Dummies!"
> >
> > So... according to the instructions at <
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS_Blueberry_Instructions> you download the
> blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator.  Rather than downloading all
> over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on
> the Mac) and use it?  Or could I download it to the eeePC once and use it
> there?  What would be the easiest, most fool-proof way to do this?
> >
> >
> >
> > Caryl;
> >
> > YOU DO NOT NEED external CD to do this:
> >
> > * Copy-paste the file from the SugarCreation Kit
> > CD onto an empty USB inserted in your MAC
> >
> > * transfer the .iso to your EeePC900 by inserting that USB into the
> > EeePC900 and (drag - drop/copy-paste) the .iso to the XP Desktop.
> >
> >
> >
> > * Install Liveusb-creator for Windows:  (See attached .png file)
> >
> > https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
> >
> > * Use Liveusb-creator for windows to make a soas USB with

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Dave Bauer]

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Gerald Ardito  wrote:
> I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a
> school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our
> software from the official build.
> How do I "disable security?"
>

Check out this page:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop

You need to open Browse, click "get developer key" from the OLPC home
page (if your build is new enough) or type file:///home/.devkey.html
in the address bar. Then there are further instructions to disable
security on that wiki page

You need a key for every XO so this might be time consuming.

Dave

> Many thanks.
> Gerald
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard
>  wrote:
>>
>> Caryl;
>>
>> I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
>> * I requested and downloaded a developer key
>> * disabled security (very important!)
>> * installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc
>>
>> This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
>> that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and
>> spanish)
>>
>> In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
>>  su
>>  yum install liveusb-creator
>>
>> liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
>> 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
>> 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)
>>
>>  >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
>>       It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
>> This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900
>>
>> The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
>> but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
>> (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown
>> and restart.)
>> I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1
>> plus on the EeePC900.
>> (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on
>> the XO-1)
>>
>> This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
>> while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's
>>
>>
>> Tom Gilliard
>> satellit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>> > Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that,
>> > but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.
>> >
>> > Sounds like a "piece of cake."
>> >
>> > Caryl
>> >
>> > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
>> > From: satel...@bendbroadband.com
>> > To: cbige...@hotmail.com
>> > CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org;
>> > support-g...@laptop.org
>> > Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>> >
>> >   Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
>> >
>> > In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember
>> > that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these
>> > fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with  and
>> > training other educators who are very shy about using computers.
>> >
>> > For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a
>> > "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is
>> > doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy,
>> > and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
>> >
>> > Bert wrote:
>> >
>> > The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a. "CDFS
>> > (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs, which is
>> > read-only.
>> >
>> > So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but unfortunately
>> > the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to run 
>> > the
>> > usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine.
>> >
>> > Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
>> >
>> > And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
>> >
>> > I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an
>> > early version of Strawberry.  I think the Virtual Box would be a deal
>> > breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot helper 
>> > cd
>> > should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping to get
>> > a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
>> >
>> > After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished eeePC
>> > 900 with Windows XP today.  It will arrive Monday.  I chose to get one with
>> > Windows XP because the Fedora Live USB Creator seems to be the easiest 
>> > route
>> > to success... sort of "SoaS for Dummies!"
>> >
>> > So... according to the instructions at
>> >  you download the
>> > blueberry image while in the LiveUSB Creator.  Rather than downloading all
>> > over again, can I just plug in one of my usb sticks with SoaS (created on
>> > th

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Gerald Ardito]

Dave,

Thanks. I will probably train my 20 Tech Team students to do this, which
will empower them and help the process.

Gerald

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Dave Bauer  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Gerald Ardito 
> wrote:
> > I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a
> > school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade
> our
> > software from the official build.
> > How do I "disable security?"
> >
>
> Check out this page:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop
>
> You need to open Browse, click "get developer key" from the OLPC home
> page (if your build is new enough) or type file:///home/.devkey.html
> in the address bar. Then there are further instructions to disable
> security on that wiki page
>
> You need a key for every XO so this might be time consuming.
>
> Dave
>
> > Many thanks.
> > Gerald
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Caryl;
> >>
> >> I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
> >> * I requested and downloaded a developer key
> >> * disabled security (very important!)
> >> * installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
> >> http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc
> >>
> >> This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
> >> that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and
> >> spanish)
> >>
> >> In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
> >>  su
> >>  yum install liveusb-creator
> >>
> >> liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
> >> 1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
> >> 2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)
> >>
> >>  >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
> >>   It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
> >> This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900
> >>
> >> The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
> >> but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
> >> (Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown
> >> and restart.)
> >> I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1
> >> plus on the EeePC900.
> >> (A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on
> >> the XO-1)
> >>
> >> This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
> >> while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom Gilliard
> >> satellit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> >> > Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that,
> >> > but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.
> >> >
> >> > Sounds like a "piece of cake."
> >> >
> >> > Caryl
> >> >
> >> > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
> >> > From: satel...@bendbroadband.com
> >> > To: cbige...@hotmail.com
> >> > CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org;
> >> > support-g...@laptop.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> >> >
> >> >   Hi Bert, Tom, and All,
> >> >
> >> > In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy,
> remember
> >> > that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all
> these
> >> > fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with
>  and
> >> > training other educators who are very shy about using computers.
> >> >
> >> > For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a
> >> > "plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it
> is
> >> > doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be
> easy,
> >> > and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.
> >> >
> >> > Bert wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The iso file is a "CD image". ISO is short for "ISO 9660", a.k.a.
> "CDFS
> >> > (Compact Disc File System)". It is a file system designed for CDs,
> which is
> >> > read-only.
> >> >
> >> > So, I could save money and just use an image on a cd, but
> unfortunately
> >> > the live CD will not boot on a MacBook. It needs a boot helper cd to
> run the
> >> > usb stick version and there is only one optical drive on the machine.
> >> >
> >> > Probably about 50% of the teachers will have Macs.
> >> >
> >> > And, Tom suggested using Virtual Box:
> >> >
> >> > I really didn't want to use the Virtual Box again. I did that with an
> >> > early version of Strawberry.  I think the Virtual Box would be a deal
> >> > breaker for a lot of teachers, whereas a usb version with the boot
> helper cd
> >> > should be quite acceptable and easy to use. That is why I was hoping
> to get
> >> > a usb version that could be used on both PCs and Macs.
> >> >
> >> > After all the advice I got from you folks, I ordered a refurbished
> eeePC
> >> > 900 with Windows XP today.  It will arrive 

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Look at:

IAEP Digest, Vol 25 Issue 23 Message #1
Plus
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions
http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4768.0 ( part copied
below:)

Tom Gilliard
satellit


  
  
  

  


 
 April 15, 2010, 10:46:40 PM 

 

  

  
   HOWTO: Install
To install this awesome OS image, you will need to do several things.
  
Step One.
Get a developer key.
  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop
  
Step Two.
Copy all important files to a USB stick or SD card.
  
Step Three.
  
On another computer, download two files onto a USB stick or SD card.
Place these files in the root directory of the card.
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc
  
Step Four.
  
Boot your XO. Hold down Escape while booting. This is the key on the
upper left of the keyboard.
  
Step 5.
  
You are now hopefully at an "OpenFirmware" prompt.
Type in "disable-security" and press Enter.
Let it do what it wants to do.
  
Step 6.
  
Move
the SD card or USB stick with the files you downloaded into the XO.
Reboot while holding down Escape, to get to another OpenFirmware prompt.
  
Step 7.
If the files were downloaded onto a USB stick:
type "probe-usb", press Enter, then type "copy-nand usb:\os140py.img"
and press Enter.
  
Step 8.
If the files were downloaded onto a SD card:
Type "copy-nand sd:\os140py.img" and press Enter.
  
Step 9.
Reboot.
  
Step 10.
  
  
Step 11.
  Profit! Whoops, OLPC won't let us profit. Oh well...
  
Step 12. Enjoy the new OS image!



Dave Bauer wrote:

  On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Gerald Ardito  wrote:
  
  
I am excited about trying this. I manage a deployment of 140 XO-1's in a
school in Westchester County, New York and have really wanted to upgrade our
software from the official build.
How do I "disable security?"


  
  
Check out this page:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Getting_a_developer_key_for_your_running_XO_laptop

You need to open Browse, click "get developer key" from the OLPC home
page (if your build is new enough) or type file:///home/.devkey.html
in the address bar. Then there are further instructions to disable
security on that wiki page

You need a key for every XO so this might be time consuming.

Dave

  
  
Many thanks.
Gerald

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Thomas C Gilliard
 wrote:


  Caryl;

I just bought a G1G1 XO-1 on e-bay for testing.
* I requested and downloaded a developer key
* disabled security (very important!)
* installed f11-xo-1-py  (fedora 11 gnome and sugar)
http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc

This is great software and expands the capabilities of the OLPC XO-1
that bernie has developed for the Paraguay deployment (english and
spanish)

In the Gnome desktop terminal program on the XO-1:
 su
 yum install liveusb-creator

liveusb-creator runs using 2 USB sticks:
1-) Target USB 2GB or larger
2-) USB with Blueberry/strawberry.iso's (downloaded on another PC)

 >DO NOT DOWNLOAD soas.iso's to the XO-1<
      It has too small a working solid state HD to do this.
This is very similar to running a 3 stick solution on a EeePC900

The XO-1 is much slower (50min for Blueberry soas) than the EeePC900;
but it makes Soas Live USB's fine.
(Plus they boot on the XO-1, just leave them inserted and do a shutdown
and restart.)
I just did this with the soas-2-blueberry.iso and it boots on the XO-1
plus on the EeePC900.
(A EeePC900 livecd-iso-to-disk script created live usb will not boot on
the XO-1)

This could be a nice way to demonstrate sugar and the OLPC XO-1
while it makes and runs Soas Live USB's


Tom Gilliard
satellit






Caryl Bigenho wrote:
  
  
Thanks Tom for the confirmation!  I suspected it might work like that,
but not being a PC person, I wasn't sure.

Sounds like a "piece of cake."

Caryl

Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:08:38 -0700
From: satel...@bendbroadband.com
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org;
support-g...@laptop.org
Subject: Re: [SoaS] "SoaS For Dummies?"













Caryl Bigenho wrote:

  Hi Bert, Tom, and All,

In case you are all wondering why I want to make this so easy, remember
that while I am sort of a "closet techie" and could learn to do all these
fancy work-arounds, I also have many years experience working with  and
training other educators who are very shy about using computers.

For most of them it has to be very simple and work almost as a
"plug-'n-play." Even the boot-helper disk is a stretch, but I think it is
doable with some very clear step-by-step instructions. It needs to be easy,
and hopefully fun, with a high probability of success.

Bert wrote:

The iso file is a "CD image".

[IAEP] Quake Catcher Network

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi...

Here is something intriguing I heard about on NPR yesterday.  It is a Seismic 
Monitoring program that can run in the background on computers that have 
built-in accelerometers (newer Macs) or PCs with an external one with usb 
connection.  The hope is to have a world wide network of computers sensing 
quakes, especially in places where there are many quakes.  

It is designed to be an educational project with schools involved doing 
"citizen science" (sort of like CoCoRaHS).  They have interactive/educational 
software and seismic monitoring software.

Disclaimer... I haven't tried the software yet so I can't recommend it one way 
or the other until I do.

Does the XO have an accelerometer? No matter if it doesn't because it has usb 
ports to spare.  Any chance of someone getting a version of the software to 
work on the XOs?  Maybe one of our developers who knows what would have to be 
done to get it to work on the XO could contact the Quake Catcher Network and 
ask it they could do it?

Here is a link to the site:

http://qcn.stanford.edu/downloads/

Looks like it is based at Stanford.

Caryl ___
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IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Quake Catcher Network

[Yamandu Ploskonka]

Caryl,

I think it is wonderful you do share about this.  It is always 
interesting to see how some idea can have unreached effects and become a 
wish for more


I have been quite involved in seismic monitoring in my day, and to 
imagine personal computers could be used for that, beats everything else 
this week as to wishful thinking turned into vaporware, even though I 
spent a lot of time reading so called evaluations of ICT for education, 
and there was that revival of the crank...


Now, if you can, and abusing a lot on your patience, please do not see 
what I said as a criticism to you, or that you should not share with us 
this kind of stuff.


Actually, for someone like me it is extremely valuable to be aware of 
what is going on out there, and in the absence of things that make sense 
completely, it does help me hugely to, well, hear about this kind of 
things, because at some level these do reflect real dreams and desires 
which are perfectly true and valid, even though their put into effect is 
not.


I guess I could go into detail, but the basic reason this cannot work is 
separating "real" seismic data from any other, from steps close to the 
machine, to a car rolling outside...  This of course will not stop a 
skilled grantwriter, who would offer to prepare software that can 
discriminate data.  However, the nearly mathematically unsolvable 
problem is in separating *overlapping* data, which is the real reason 
they forbid cellphones on planes.


That is why real seismeters are set underground, as far away from human 
activity as possible.



On 04/18/2010 05:31 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

Hi...

Here is something intriguing I heard about on NPR yesterday.  It is a 
Seismic Monitoring program that can run in the background on computers 
that have built-in accelerometers (newer Macs) or PCs with an external 
one with usb connection.  The hope is to have a world wide network of 
computers sensing quakes, especially in places where there are many 
quakes.


It is designed to be an educational project with schools involved 
doing "citizen science" (sort of like CoCoRaHS).  They have 
interactive/educational software and seismic monitoring software.


Disclaimer... I haven't tried the software yet so I can't recommend it 
one way or the other until I do.


Does the XO have an accelerometer? No matter if it doesn't because it 
has usb ports to spare.  Any chance of someone getting a version of 
the software to work on the XOs?  Maybe one of our developers who 
knows what would have to be done to get it to work on the XO could 
contact the Quake Catcher Network and ask it they could do it?


Here is a link to the site:

http://qcn.stanford.edu/downloads/

Looks like it is based at Stanford.

Caryl


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[IAEP] [SLOBS] Notes SLOBS Trademark Discussion 4-12-10

[John Tierney]

Typed Copy of John Tierney written Notes of Key Points from 

SLOBs Trademark Discussion Monday night April 12th 2010 at 

OLPC Offices-Cambridge, MA. 


I believe I have cc'd everyone who was at meeting

plus Bernie, sorry if I missed someone.
(Please understand these were not minutes but personal notes, 

so please add comments or clarifications) 

 

Sean Daly

-Tech PR
-Build Brand



Logo/Symbol-Meaning
What Does it Stand For
Values
Discrimination/Exclusion-Means this, not that
-Platform


Ecosystem Activities
-Example


Adobe Labeling Program
Intel Labeling Program
-Which Allows for


Revenue Stream From OEM
Control Shaping of Brand
Chris Ball
-Agreement


Label O.K.
Revenue O.K.
Smaller Set
-Distribution of Code


Unmodified Sugar Code Being Used By Someone-O.K.
Unmodified Sugar Code with Slight Modifications-Translation, etc.-O.K.
Modified Code-Must Ask
-Example


Ziff.org-Write Codecs
GPL-Mention License Author Source
Areas of Agreement on Cases where potential partner must ask for Trademark use


0. Encouraging Phrases**
1. Websites-Must Ask

2. Modified Versions-Must Ask
3. Reserved Names("Sugar on a Stick")-Must Ask
4. Logo Program-Must Ask
5. Mostly Unmodified-Must Ask
**(This zero point was mentioned by Chris Ball actually last I didn't record 
what he might of actually titled this, this was the words I was using)

A few themes I took away from the meeting are as follows: 



Encourage vs. Discourage

Unmodified vs. Modified

Logo Program-With Gradations of involvement(Possibly 3 to 4 Different Logos for 
Partners depending on
level of involvement. Possible to have one Logo to show partners with 
Modified Sugar Code)

My thought would be if we can focus on the Encourage and Logo Program Themes, I 
think it will help us come 
up with final wording that displays Sugar Labs as a Proactive/ 
Inclusive/Collaborative Partner.

A suggestion to achieve this would be to:


 Quickly come up with the names for the labeling program along
with what level of involvement and/or unmodified/modified Sugar Code that 
involves.
We in turn need to work on Logo's but are not necessary to written copy
**Sean can you post a draft outline of Labeling Program to begin discussion**
 

With a Labeling/Logo Description in place by default those definitions will 
answer many of the use cases. We can then take
the January 15 2010 Draft and build that language around Labeling Program with 
an aim to use encouraging/inclusive
and clearer language. 

 

These two portions in particular seem somewhat contradictory in language after 
reading them and

comparing them to notes and meeting discussion. Hopefully Labeling Program can 
absorb these two

parts and allow for a clear differentiation in use cases and proper interaction 
with Sugar Labs to

benefit the parties involved.

 

2a.

To refer to the Sugar Labs software in substantially unmodified form 
"substantially unmodified" means built from 

the source code provided by the Sugar Labs project, possibly with minor 
modifications including but not limited to: 

the enabling or disabling of certain features by default, translations into 
other languages, changes required for 

compatibility with a particular operating system distribution, or the inclusion 
of bug-fix patches). All such minor 

modifications must be released under an approved license.

 

**It seems to say you can use with some minor modifications but then says all 
minor modifications must be

released with approved license***

 

3.

You may use the Sugar Labs Marks as part of the name of a product designed to 
work with Sugar Labs, so long 

as the name as a whole (via its other components) clearly and unambiguously 
distinguishes the product from Sugar 

Labs software itself, and the general presentation of the product does not 
imply any official association or identity 

with Sugar Labs. Because it would be awkward to attach a trademark symbol to a 
portion of a larger name whose 

other portions might themselves be trademarked, the requirement to display the 
symbol is waived for this circumstance. 

 

***It would seem if the Sugar Labs Marks were part of the name of a product 
that would indicate that there is a

perceived official relationship or identity to Sugar Labs which then 
contradicts with the next statement***

 

Example: If I trademark "JT Linux" and then sell a product "JT Linux with Sugar 
on Board" from the reading above

I'm confused if I could do that or not. From the meeting my understanding is 
that I could.

 

Since many of the individuals who end up redistributing Sugar may very well be 
of the non-technical nature(in a writing/

coding/distributing Software sense) we must try to use language that encourages 
them and shy away from technical/legal 

language that may discourage/intimidate a potential deployer of the Sugar 
Learning Platform.

 

Again please fill in areas of importance that I have missed.

 

Appreciate the Chance to Participate!

 

John Tierney

  

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Quake Catcher Network

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the link to the Science For Citizens site.  Sounds like most of 
these projects are for the US only.  I wonder if there are similar projects in 
other countries? Some really nice lessons could be developed for students to do 
with their XOs with web access.  Does anyone know of others?

Caryl

> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:18:15 -0400
> From: ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edu
> To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org
> CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Quake Catcher Network
> 
> The accuracy of an individual sensor, yes, is suspect.  But that's why
> Stanford is asking for many sensors to be registered -- a thousand or
> laptops moving simultaneously (or in outgoing waves) could triangulate the
> location of an earthquake before the waves even register at the main USGS
> seismometers.
> 
> These projects also connect the kids to science in a direct way.  Most
> volunteer science projects are a bit more hands-on and a little less
> hardware-intensive.  I've been interested for awhile in seeing the laptops
> connected to a project such as this -- see
> http://www.scienceforcitizens.net/ for some more examples =)
> 
> Regards,
> Nick Doiron
> 
> On Sun, April 18, 2010 8:04 pm, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
> > Caryl,
> >
> >
> > I think it is wonderful you do share about this.  It is always
> > interesting to see how some idea can have unreached effects and become a
> > wish for more
> >
> > I have been quite involved in seismic monitoring in my day, and to
> > imagine personal computers could be used for that, beats everything else
> > this week as to wishful thinking turned into vaporware, even though I
> > spent a lot of time reading so called evaluations of ICT for education,
> > and there was that revival of the crank...
> >
> > Now, if you can, and abusing a lot on your patience, please do not see
> > what I said as a criticism to you, or that you should not share with us
> > this kind of stuff.
> >
> > Actually, for someone like me it is extremely valuable to be aware of
> > what is going on out there, and in the absence of things that make sense
> > completely, it does help me hugely to, well, hear about this kind of
> > things, because at some level these do reflect real dreams and desires
> > which are perfectly true and valid, even though their put into effect is
> > not.
> >
> > I guess I could go into detail, but the basic reason this cannot work is
> > separating "real" seismic data from any other, from steps close to the
> > machine, to a car rolling outside...  This of course will not stop a
> > skilled grantwriter, who would offer to prepare software that can
> > discriminate data.  However, the nearly mathematically unsolvable problem
> > is in separating *overlapping* data, which is the real reason they forbid
> > cellphones on planes.
> >
> > That is why real seismeters are set underground, as far away from human
> > activity as possible.
> >
> >
> > On 04/18/2010 05:31 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> >
> >> Hi...
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is something intriguing I heard about on NPR yesterday.  It is a
> >> Seismic Monitoring program that can run in the background on computers
> >> that have built-in accelerometers (newer Macs) or PCs with an external
> >> one with usb connection.  The hope is to have a world wide network of
> >> computers sensing quakes, especially in places where there are many
> >> quakes.
> >>
> >> It is designed to be an educational project with schools involved
> >> doing "citizen science" (sort of like CoCoRaHS).  They have
> >> interactive/educational software and seismic monitoring software.
> >>
> >> Disclaimer... I haven't tried the software yet so I can't recommend it
> >> one way or the other until I do.
> >>
> >> Does the XO have an accelerometer? No matter if it doesn't because it
> >> has usb ports to spare.  Any chance of someone getting a version of the
> >> software to work on the XOs?  Maybe one of our developers who knows what
> >> would have to be done to get it to work on the XO could contact the
> >> Quake Catcher Network and ask it they could do it?
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is a link to the site:
> >>
> >>
> >> http://qcn.stanford.edu/downloads/
> >>
> >>
> >> Looks like it is based at Stanford.
> >>
> >>
> >> Caryl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ___
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> >>
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> >
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Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Quake Catcher Network

[Yamandu Ploskonka]

Provincia San Luis in Argentina is doing an amazing project of 
calculating the carbon footprint of every community in the Provincia, 
the kids go house byhouse interviewing the families on what kind of 
appliances they have, number of lightbulbs, etc.  Classmates running 
winnows, alas.




Please disregard the rest of my response below - I'm into nonsense, no 
need to take any of that seriously, I just find it somewhat quaint I 
fell into that, so I'm leaving it there



as to massive data gathering, something on the lines of weather projects 
could be fascinating, with adequate sensors.  Anyway, so far we haven't 
even been able to figure out even what it is that kids use their 
computers for, which simply would require to see / spider / datamine the 
Journals.  To assume that we will be able to have kids regularly upload 
information, and also somehow will we manage to get them previously the 
proper sensors...


Now, with *adequate* data processing, having weather data moving across 
a locality with a couple hundred sensors *accurately* located would be 
terrific, especially cross referencing that with satellite data and 
doing it over a significant span of time.


Same difficulty with anything of this kind.  It's cute this was 
originally sold as something that would use accelerometers in computers, 
but, oh, it turns out you need separate sensors.


I've seen a few very clever Science Fair seismic sensors, but even the 
cheapest ones can run beyond what is practical to consider as individual 
expenses.  And don't forget calibrating them, etc. I would be surprised 
a sensor that actually can give useful information would cost less than 
an XO!




On 04/18/2010 09:39 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

Hi Nick,

Thanks for the link to the Science For Citizens site.  Sounds like 
most of these projects are for the US only.  I wonder if there are 
similar projects in other countries? Some really nice lessons could be 
developed for students to do with their XOs with web access.  Does 
anyone know of others?


Caryl

> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:18:15 -0400
> From: ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edu
> To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org
> CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Subject: Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Quake Catcher Network
>
> The accuracy of an individual sensor, yes, is suspect. But that's why
> Stanford is asking for many sensors to be registered -- a thousand or
> laptops moving simultaneously (or in outgoing waves) could 
triangulate the
> location of an earthquake before the waves even register at the main 
USGS

> seismometers.
>
> These projects also connect the kids to science in a direct way. Most
> volunteer science projects are a bit more hands-on and a little less
> hardware-intensive. I've been interested for awhile in seeing the 
laptops

> connected to a project such as this -- see
> http://www.scienceforcitizens.net/ for some more examples =)
>
> Regards,
> Nick Doiron
>
> On Sun, April 18, 2010 8:04 pm, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
> > Caryl,
> >
> >
> > I think it is wonderful you do share about this. It is always
> > interesting to see how some idea can have unreached effects and 
become a

> > wish for more
> >
> > I have been quite involved in seismic monitoring in my day, and to
> > imagine personal computers could be used for that, beats 
everything else

> > this week as to wishful thinking turned into vaporware, even though I
> > spent a lot of time reading so called evaluations of ICT for 
education,

> > and there was that revival of the crank...
> >
> > Now, if you can, and abusing a lot on your patience, please do not see
> > what I said as a criticism to you, or that you should not share 
with us

> > this kind of stuff.
> >
> > Actually, for someone like me it is extremely valuable to be aware of
> > what is going on out there, and in the absence of things that make 
sense

> > completely, it does help me hugely to, well, hear about this kind of
> > things, because at some level these do reflect real dreams and desires
> > which are perfectly true and valid, even though their put into 
effect is

> > not.
> >
> > I guess I could go into detail, but the basic reason this cannot 
work is

> > separating "real" seismic data from any other, from steps close to the
> > machine, to a car rolling outside... This of course will not stop a
> > skilled grantwriter, who would offer to prepare software that can
> > discriminate data. However, the nearly mathematically unsolvable 
problem
> > is in separating *overlapping* data, which is the real reason they 
forbid

> > cellphones on planes.
> >
> > That is why real seismeters are set underground, as far away from 
human

> > activity as possible.
> >
> >
> > On 04/18/2010 05:31 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> >
> >> Hi...
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is something intriguing I heard about on NPR yesterday. It is a
> >> Seismic Monitoring program that can run in the background on 
computers
> >> that have built-in accelerometers (newer Macs) or PCs