RE: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-05 Thread Karen Thomas
Has anyone heard from him today?

Karen Thomas
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[IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-05 Thread Eve
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Raven just called, in tears, 

 I'm so sorry to hear Huginn isn't well, YET!!! Debbie you are a good 
friend, My heart goes out to Raven, My prayers are for Huginn.

 Eve,
Proudly owned by Spyrna
 




Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread pippa258
Judy Ryder wrote:
> They're on the way home from the hospital now.  I don't know if the stores 
> are closed or what, but is
> there any place around you that sells GSE (grapefruit seed extract), which is 
> what Cheryl recommends?
I do believe that it is recommended that GFE be diluted in water for use 
with raw meat, throat rinse, etc.  If Huggin has throat 
ulcers/abscesses, it seems this highly concentrated citrus extract would 
be very painful and even caustic if not diluted.  Cheryl, do you 
remember if you diluted the GFE you gave to Mosa?  I'm hoping that the 
vet hosp. has him on antivirals...a low WBC count can indicate viral 
infection.  It seems they would have him on antivirals since his temps 
are not responding to the antibiotics.   I know Raven already has lots 
to think about but here is a link that will give her or Debbie an idea 
of the dilution ratio.  Rather than increasing the concentration, you 
increase the frequency of dosing in acute cases (which Huggin certainly is).

http://www.nutriteam.com/stock.htm


Trish



[IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "IceDog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > They're on the way home from the hospital now.  I
> > don't know if the stores are closed or what, but is
> > there any place around you that sells GSE
> > (grapefruit seed extract), which is what Cheryl
> > recommends?
> >
> > If so, they could take it back to the hospital to give
> > it to him.
> 
> Fred Meyers carries GSE if there is a FM in the area or is that a 
West Coast 
> Store?
> 
>

Usually any health food store will have GSE. I used to put that on 
the raw meat I gave the cats because it is supposed to get rid of 
bacteria. I have also used oil of oregano a lot, I always have 
several bottles. It can also be found in any health food store, in 
fact I gave it to Dari when he was so sick, 105 fever, and a staph 
infection that had partially paralyzed his throat, it was bad.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sardi6.html

Kim



Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread IceDog
> They're on the way home from the hospital now.  I
> don't know if the stores are closed or what, but is
> there any place around you that sells GSE
> (grapefruit seed extract), which is what Cheryl
> recommends?
>
> If so, they could take it back to the hospital to give
> it to him.

Fred Meyers carries GSE if there is a FM in the area or is that a West Coast 
Store?

Cheryl

Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs
Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>I  would give that
> antiviral stuff a
> try.


They're on the way home from the hospital now.  I
don't know if the stores are closed or what, but is
there any place around you that sells GSE
(grapefruit seed extract), which is what Cheryl
recommends?

If so, they could take it back to the hospital to give
it to him.

Judy


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread Pam Hansen
They are missing something.  I am sure she told them everything about
camping down at Forestville and what they did.  Did he drink water out
of a stream?  I am sure they would have thought about that. Did she
start him on any new products?  I  would give that antiviral stuff a
try.


Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread IceDog
I gave my Mosa a natural anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, 
anti-protozoal when she was so near death. The vet had given her every 
antibiotic in their arsenal. I had nothing to lose. I am confident that it, 
along with several quick responses to her vitals on my vet's part, saved 
Mosa.

I had nothing to lose and everything to gain at that point.

Raven please if you haven't already, give Huginn the stuff I suggested.

Hugs to you both. Keep the faith they can survive even when it appears 
hopeless. Mosa did.

Cheryl

ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm
Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs
email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
website: www.toltallyice.com 



Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread Dee Dreslough
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:13 +, kim morton wrote:
> --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up
> > and be with her,
> > Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried...
> > Blood work is
> > off the charts, Mentally hs is not well... please send
> > love, light,
> > prayers energy
> > 
> >

I wish I could know more...My instinct is screaming that they need to
hit him with an antiviral(s), an antifungal(s), and keep up the
antibiotics. They seem to be going with the antibiotics full force, but
I keep feeling like maybe it's something else.  I feel like it's time to
pull out all the stops. That Blue Green Algae issue is an interesting
theory, too.

But, I don't know nuthin', and they're top vets. I've never owned a
horse. *sigh* I know they're doing everything they can.

I'm going to light a candle for him.  I'm so sad, but hopeful still.
I've had animals that I'd almost given up on, but out of sheer
stubbornness just kept after with water and meds and they've bounced
back. (Admittedly, these were chickens, which seem to have an uncanny
knack for surviving amazing calamities unlike any species I've ever
dealt with. If they ever grow brains, the human race will have a run for
its money.)

Well, off to light that candle.  Never give up!

-Dee the Lurker




[IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07

2007-07-04 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up
> and be with her,
> Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried...
> Blood work is
> off the charts, Mentally hs is not well... please send
> love, light,
> prayers energy
> 
>

Oh no.


Kim