Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-04 Thread Janice McDonald
i have already suggested he come here and play with the boys a while
but he is still at a stage going back and forth with milk and pellets.
 He drinks milk from a bucket and she switches slowly to pellets  and
he does great a week or so and then slows way down on eating and
drinking water and loses weight so she puts him back on milk.  I guess
he is being weaned in a sense.  His dam and the other mare, all they
do is kick his butt and no playing and when sylvia goes out there he
goes nuts wanting to play.  when we went on a trail ride Jaspar kept
trying to correct him, irritably, another horse may have really kicked
him down or something, Jaspar just lunged at him with ears pinned like
knock it off, but her mare, his dam, flipped him over backward like a
turtle when he jumped up on her chest.  he is the most rambunctious
high energy little thing I have ever seen.  She does not beat him with
the ball bat and fly swatter, uses them defensively to stop him.  But
I can remember nasi being a little rat like that and I had to get
strict with him!
Janice


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even good horses have bad days sometimes.


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:19:21 -0500, you wrote:

way too cute for mule burgers!!

Dunno, looks like someone already made one out of his left ear!
; )

Mic


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Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Janice McDonald

 Dunno, looks like someone already made one out of his left ear!
 ; )

 Mic


he is practicing his little stinker attitude.  man I have never seen a
froggier colt with more attitude EVER.  They say mules have hybrid
vigor but i have never seen ANYTHING like this guys vigor, and
smart??  Oh my gosh.  Sylvia went out one morning and he was in the
front yard with is paddock gate completely closed.  he had got out and
closed the gate behind him!  And now she is swinging at him to clobber
him so he wont rear and try to play with her and when she swings he
ducks and honestly, I have to laugh out loud.  I hid behind a tree
last time i was there because you literally cannot turn your back on
him for a half second.  He WAITS for your mind to wander and then runs
at you from the rear playing, likes to take off running in a huge
circle, run right at you and when you yell and swing at him he takes
off bucking and farting and will even rear on his little hind legs and
hop, striking the air.  Its just sad.  he needs another colt to play
with so bad!  We took him on a trail ride and he broke loose and ran
through the woods until he got his rope caught on a tree.  At one
point he reared and landed his feet on his mother while sylvia was in
the saddle and the mother just struck and sent him over backward flat
of his back.  so she is about fed up with his s**t too :)  I mean he
is a pistol ball and sylvia has her hands full on this one!  I have
been around hundreds of foals this age and I have never seen one even
half this rowdy!
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:48:24 -0500, you wrote:

He WAITS for your mind to wander

Oh my while I'm sure it's cute and funny now he's a baby, I hate
to think what's going to happen to this guy when he's an adult : (

I hope he doesn't kill someone.

Mic


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Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Janice McDonald

 Oh my while I'm sure it's cute and funny now he's a baby, I hate
 to think what's going to happen to this guy when he's an adult : (

 I hope he doesn't kill someone.

 Mic


well what would you suggest.  she's already carrying an aluminum
baseball bat into the paddock with her.  and using it.  She handed me
a fly swatter, which worked pretty good actually.  He needs to be
gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working on that.
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well what would you suggest.  she's already carrying an aluminum
 baseball bat into the paddock with her.  and using it.  She handed me
 a fly swatter, which worked pretty good actually.  He needs to be
 gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working on that.
 Janice
 --


Is he too young for Parelli games?
V


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/7/3 Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 well what would you suggest.  she's already carrying an aluminum
 baseball bat into the paddock with her.  and using it.

Gawd! What a scarey thing to have around the place.

 He needs to be gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working on that.

The sooner the better I'd say

Wanda
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Thoughts become things...


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:59:29 -0500, you wrote:

well what would you suggest.  she's already carrying an aluminum
baseball bat into the paddock with her.  and using it.  She handed me
a fly swatter, which worked pretty good actually.  He needs to be
gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working on that.

It's a really hard one. This is the orphan mule, isn't it? Is he still
being fed milk? I think if he was mine I would try my hardest to get
him into a larger herd of horses/donkeys/mules, with some more foals,
youngsters and adult horses, so they could teach him that he's not
King of the World. Then I would try to restrict human contact as much
as possible until he's learned more about  herd status generally and
his place in the herd.

We have a similar thing nearby - a friend used my stallion on her
mare, and the foal is now a yearling. When she was a baby she was
handled a lot, and not in a good way (in spite of warnings!). She was
taught to play with people, never really corrected, turned into a big
pet puppy dog which was fine when she was tiny, but now she's a
strapping big yearling over 13hh and you have a carry a whip when you
go in the field or she jumps all over you, bites, kicks, yuck. My
friend would like to sell her but as you can imagine nobody is that
keen. I suspect I will probably end up buying her and rehabbing her
which is sad considering she's such a baby
: (

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Wanda Lauscher wrote:

 2008/7/3 Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 well what would you suggest.  she's already carrying an aluminum
 baseball bat into the paddock with her.  and using it.

 Gawd! What a scarey thing to have around the place.

 He needs to be gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working 
 on that.

 The sooner the better I'd say

 Wanda

Got any senior horse geldings around, preferably one gelded as an 
adult? That's what the brat needs as a companion, to teach it its place 
in the order of things, in language it can understand.


Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/



Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Jul 3, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Mic Rushen wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:59:29 -0500, you wrote:

 well what would you suggest.  she's already carrying an aluminum
 baseball bat into the paddock with her.  and using it.  She handed me
 a fly swatter, which worked pretty good actually.  He needs to be
 gelded for one, and soon, and i think she is working on that.

 It's a really hard one. This is the orphan mule, isn't it?

Oh, a mule.  That explains how he got outside of his corral with the 
gate closed. g  She would do well to keep him in the tallest fencing 
until he forgets his coon jumping experience 
(http://www.angelfire.com/or/royaleroseranch/mules.html).




 Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/



Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread snowpony

 she's already carrying an aluminum baseball bat into the paddock with her.  
 and using it.  

Janice, 
This is the friend that has a very small area for her horses, right?   
Could this youngster just have a lot of pent-up energy and no place to expend 
it as well as no one to play with?

Mystic is 4/5 now and she spends just as much time running around the pasture 
and getting Rocky or Eitill to run with her as she does grazing during turn-out 
time.She has so much energy and playfulness -- and she's a filly and older. 
  This little guy needs to have room to move and someone to play with.I bet 
that would help his inappropriate behavior(s) immensely. 

When he is ready to be weaned, could you bring him to your place to play with 
Nasi and the boys for awhile or something?

-- Renee M. in Michigan


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/7/3  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 When he is ready to be weaned, could you bring him to your place to play with 
 Nasi and the boys for awhile or something?

Now there's an idea!  That would do wonders for him Janice.  Boys love
to play...

Wanda



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Thoughts become things...


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Jul 3, 2008, at 4:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I bet that would help his inappropriate behavior(s) immensely.

 When he is ready to be weaned, could you bring him to your place to 
 play with Nasi and the boys for awhile or something?

And she needs to geld him ASAP!  My mule was gelded at one month and 
the vet said he liked to geld them at foaling.  An uncut mule is much 
more dangerous than a horse colt simply because of the greater strength 
of a mule.  Even without the testosterone . . .



Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA
ranch:  http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/



Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-03 Thread snowpony

 Lynn Kinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
.  An uncut mule is much 
 more dangerous than a horse colt simply because of the greater strength 
 of a mule.  Even without the testosterone . . .

Interesting. . . 

The longer I live, the more I am coming to the conclusion anything born with 
testosterone producing organs suffers from a birth defect. . . .

-- Renee M. in Michigan


[IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-01 Thread Janice McDonald
can anyone advise what to use for a horse that chews trees?  It may be
a donkey thing.  My curly ray has killed several small trees chewing
them and now my friend sylvia's little mule is chewing the one tree in
his paddock and she cant get him to knock it off.  She was thinking of
painting it with turpentine.  I said that could hurt him...  i said
maybe she could duct tape it but he might ingest some.  any ideas?
Janice

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even good horses have bad days sometimes.


Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:12:11 -0500, you wrote:

 any ideas?

Mule burgers?

Mic


Mic (Michelle) Rushen

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Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-01 Thread Karen Thomas
 can anyone advise what to use for a horse that chews trees?

We've found two things that work: cut the tree or fence it off.  Some trees 
don't appeal to them - they never chew on our pecan trees or pines, but they 
love oaks.


Karen Thomas, NC



Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-01 Thread Debbie K.
wrap the tree in horse fencing, the no climb kind or chicken wire...
as the tree grows you need to expand it though, or the tree will just
grow right through it... the other thing is to put 3 or 4 stakes about
a foot out from the tree all around it and wrap around the tree using
the posts to wrap around... trim up the tree so the mule can not get
to it, you can also make sure they horse has the right mineral mix, as
they are usually looking for copper, at least that is what I was told
by a couple different people...


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Re: [IceHorses] chewing thing

2008-07-01 Thread Lorraine
I had a horse that chewed a huge hole in my wooden shelter.  I had to move the 
corral over.