[id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik syaifudin zuhri
Boleh dibilang gak dipaksakan juga,  toh nyatanya samsung bisa fix masalah
ini. Dari awal sistem unix like kan emang memiliki pengaturan permission
yang sangat ketat. Kalopun kita tidak suka dengan pengaturan di kitkat ini
kan kita bisa root/pake customrom. Bisa kita bandingkan dengan iphone,  ato
windowsphone.

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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Budiealtis
Ternyata oom sj tetap bisa melihat masa depan teknologi. Semua mengikuti.

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On Mar 4, 2014 3:34 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:

> Seperti iOS ya
> Saya sih utk aplikasi multimedia tetap preferable bisa akses external
> storage...
>
> ---
> SM-N900
> GPG public key:
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arianto C Nugroho 
> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
> Kompas.com Tekno
>
> dari artikel di :
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
>
> sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
> aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
> sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
> storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..
>
> ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
> terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..
>
>
> mengkutip :
> "Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on external
> storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure. This
> enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
> storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
> permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
> freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
> with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
> wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."
>
> The Consequences
>
> Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:
>
>- An app without any permissions:
>   - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
>   primary and secondary storage
>- With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
>   - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
>   storage
>   - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD card)
>   storage
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :
>
>> Dear all,
>> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>
>>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>>
>>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>>
>>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>>
>>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>
>>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>>> 😁😁😁
>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap
>>>>>>> ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa 
>>>>>>> tinggal
>>>>>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus 
>>>>>>> namanya
>>>>>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>>>>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Ibnu maksum
Betul, seharusnya Google mulai melakukan pengetesan pada aplikasi yang di Submit ke google play. Untuk menjamin keamanan user  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: ReinaldySent: Selasa, 4 Maret 2014 20.01To: id-android@googlegroups.comReply To: id-android@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Teknoberlebihanngga usah ke power user, user2 biasa saja, seperti saya, cukup berasa keterbatasannya,saya suka dengarkan music by folder yg dibuat di sd card, dan download an (ntah dari torrent atau lain2) saya taruh di folder di sd card, file2 gambar dari komik saya taruh juga di folder di sd card, begitu juga dengan folder dropsync, sekarang semuanya serba terbatas, dan itu cukup menjenggkelkan, dengan alasan keamanan, sampai di kekang sebegitu rupa, kayanya amat sangat berlebihan, dan itu di sadari oleh samsung, bukti nya ada update an buat Note 3 N9005 yg bikin "writeable" (ngga usah di root, dll).lagi pula kalau dengan alasan keamanan, malware, dll, ada banyak faktor yg mempengaruhi, antara lain aplikasi bajakan, prilaku si user sendiri (browsing ke situs2 yg tidak disarankan), dst dan untuk perbandingan, os yg lebih develop aza (os komputer) tidak sampai dibatasi seperti ini, jd berlebihan sekali alasan untuk keamanan, bukan jd pembenaran, apalagi mengkelompok2an jadi power userOn Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:32:41 PM UTC+7, arianto...@gmail.com wrote:yang saya bayangkan sepertinya sih begitu nantinya .. setiap app hanya bisa baca tulis file tipe tertentu ..sekarang baru membatasi akses tulis (masih) berdasarkan lokasi file ..
aplikasi hapus semua file ? bisa aja sepertinya .. kenapa tidak ? atau mungkin tidak menghapus, tapi merubah isinya ..2014-03-04 13:07 GMT+01:00 Ibnu maksum <mili...@ibnux.net>:

Kalo mengamankan dari pencurian data, harusnya sekalian jangan bisa read maupun write. 
Apakah memang ada kasus, ada aplikasi yang menghapus semua file?
 
 
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  From: Arianto C NugrohoSent: Selasa, 4 Maret 2014 19.03To: id-an...@googlegroups.com
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nambahin dikit .. yang perlu diingat adalah, Google membuat Android untuk khalayak umum .. bukan hanya power user ..power user kemungkinan besar gak akan panik/protes ketika tahu bahwa Android-nya ternyata kena malware yang mencuri informasi bank dari HP-nya .. karena kemungkinan besar udah tahu dia salahnya di mana ..

kalau common user ?2014-03-04 18:51 GMT+07:00 Arianto C Nugroho <arianto...@gmail.com>:

ya balik lagi ke alasan pertama yang saya tulis .. soal keamanan juga .. kalau semua apps (nantinya) hanya bisa akses file yang memang dia perlu akses, secara umum sistem akan lebih aman ..


buat pengguna umum juga rasanya gak terasa bedanya .. wong mereka cuman akses gambar dari galery, mp3 dari music player, film dari video player, etc ..buat power user juga masih ada cara via rooting .. kalau dibuat survey, berapa banyak sih pengguna android yang mempergunakan file explorer secara intensif ? saya aja sepertinya jarang banget buka file explorer .. sekalinya buka memang untuk melakukan akses ke file-file sistem (bukan file umum) yang memang mau gak mau butuh akses root ..


2014-03-04 18:43 GMT+07:00 Eko Prasetiyo <ekopra...@gmail.com>:


Ya yg mo kyk gitu difasilitasi sih gpp. Tp jgn jg membatasi user yg lbh suka cara "klasik" dalam manajemen file. 



On Mar 4, 2014 6:32 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <arianto...@gmail.com> wrote:



sebenarnya, pendekatan modern dari file system memang seperti itu.. lokasi (directory) file sudah tidak penting lagi.. yang lebih penting adalah isinya.. 
jadi galeri bisa menampilkan semua file gambar tanpa peduli lokasi
Music player bisa memutar semua lagu tanpa peduli lokasi dan format, asal file musik bisa dimainkan.. 
pendekatan yang sama sudah dilakukan sejak awal di gmail.. di gm

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Ibnu maksum
Berarti yang paling aman adalah iOS, karena ngga ada file manager, ga ada external dan aplikasi ga bisa akses data lainHmmm  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Arianto C NugrohoSent: Selasa, 4 Maret 2014 19.32To: id-android@googlegroups.comReply To: id-android@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Teknoyang saya bayangkan sepertinya sih begitu nantinya .. setiap app hanya bisa baca tulis file tipe tertentu ..sekarang baru membatasi akses tulis (masih) berdasarkan lokasi file ..
aplikasi hapus semua file ? bisa aja sepertinya .. kenapa tidak ? atau mungkin tidak menghapus, tapi merubah isinya ..2014-03-04 13:07 GMT+01:00 Ibnu maksum <milis...@ibnux.net>:

Kalo mengamankan dari pencurian data, harusnya sekalian jangan bisa read maupun write. 
Apakah memang ada kasus, ada aplikasi yang menghapus semua file?
 
 
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  From: Arianto C NugrohoSent: Selasa, 4 Maret 2014 19.03To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Reply To: id-android@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

nambahin dikit .. yang perlu diingat adalah, Google membuat Android untuk khalayak umum .. bukan hanya power user ..power user kemungkinan besar gak akan panik/protes ketika tahu bahwa Android-nya ternyata kena malware yang mencuri informasi bank dari HP-nya .. karena kemungkinan besar udah tahu dia salahnya di mana ..

kalau common user ?2014-03-04 18:51 GMT+07:00 Arianto C Nugroho <arianto.nugr...@gmail.com>:

ya balik lagi ke alasan pertama yang saya tulis .. soal keamanan juga .. kalau semua apps (nantinya) hanya bisa akses file yang memang dia perlu akses, secara umum sistem akan lebih aman ..


buat pengguna umum juga rasanya gak terasa bedanya .. wong mereka cuman akses gambar dari galery, mp3 dari music player, film dari video player, etc ..buat power user juga masih ada cara via rooting .. kalau dibuat survey, berapa banyak sih pengguna android yang mempergunakan file explorer secara intensif ? saya aja sepertinya jarang banget buka file explorer .. sekalinya buka memang untuk melakukan akses ke file-file sistem (bukan file umum) yang memang mau gak mau butuh akses root ..


2014-03-04 18:43 GMT+07:00 Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com>:


Ya yg mo kyk gitu difasilitasi sih gpp. Tp jgn jg membatasi user yg lbh suka cara "klasik" dalam manajemen file. 



On Mar 4, 2014 6:32 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <arianto.nugr...@gmail.com> wrote:



sebenarnya, pendekatan modern dari file system memang seperti itu.. lokasi (directory) file sudah tidak penting lagi.. yang lebih penting adalah isinya.. 
jadi galeri bisa menampilkan semua file gambar tanpa peduli lokasi
Music player bisa memutar semua lagu tanpa peduli lokasi dan format, asal file musik bisa dimainkan.. 
pendekatan yang sama sudah dilakukan sejak awal di gmail.. di gmail tidak ada folder adanya label di mana 1 email bisa punya lebih dari 1 label..  kalau folder kan 1 file cuman bisa di 1 folder.. 
sepertinya tujuan Google, ke depannya, access file tergantung tipe file.. jadi movie player/editor  punya akses penuh ke file film, tapi tidak punya akses ke file jenis lain tanpa  peduli lokasi file 
On Mar 4, 2014 11:40 AM, "Ony Octavianto" <ony.octavia...@gmail.com> wrote:




berarti google harusnya ngasih built-in file explorer buat android2014-03-04 16:33 GMT+07:00 Mardi B <emaer...@gmail.com>:





Yang paling kerasa dihantam kebijakan ini aplikasi aplikasi file explorer sepertinya. Fungsi utama mereka kan memang "otak atik" folder lain soalnya hehehe






On Mar 4, 2014 4:26 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <arianto.nugr...@gmail.com> wrote:






tetap punya akses kok .. tapi READ only .. jadi misalnya kita punya Video Player atau Music Player app, akan tetap bisa play film atau mp3 yang disimpan dimana saja (internal/external) .. tapi kalau kita rekam

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Ibnu maksum
xternal storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure. This enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."















The ConsequencesJust to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:















An app without any permissions:







Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the primary and secondary storage







With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:







Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in) storage







Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD card) storage2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi <mul1...@gmail.com>:







Dear all, 
Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya? 

On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis" <abang...@gmail.com> wrote:








Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :)) 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin <skle...@gmail.com>:





















Cieh merendah nih!










Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..*abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*










 










 





















   










  From: zoa fridzSent: Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47To: id-android@googlegroups.comReply To: id-android@googlegroups.com










Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno










Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
😁😁😁
On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis" <abang...@gmail.com> wrote:











Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz <zoa.fr...@gmail.com>:













Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source gimana, Bang?
Pan pengen keren gitu..
😄😄😄
On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis" <abang...@gmail.com> wrote:














Iya, gak nyambung :) Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P 
















2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser <giopanser.andr...@gmail.com>:
















Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
Saya newbie, awam sama open source
Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?

On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan" <irvangad...@gmail.com> wrote:

















Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...Sent from my iPadOn Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com> wrote:

















Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon" <an...@lc.vlsm.org> wrote:


















Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om? 

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To: id-android <id-android@googlegroups.com>Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AMSubject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno


















Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user space cm 4 - 5 gb




















On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" <shafiq@gmail.com> wrote:



















http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD




















Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet ken

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Andre Tampubolon
Sungguh inconvenient yah :/

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-Original Message-
From: Arianto C Nugroho 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com 
Tekno

tetap punya akses kok .. tapi READ only ..

jadi misalnya kita punya Video Player atau Music Player app, akan tetap
bisa play film atau mp3 yang disimpan dimana saja (internal/external) ..
tapi kalau kita rekam video, app itu aja bisa simpan file di directory-nya
saja, tidak bisa disembarang directory ..


2014-03-04 9:19 GMT+01:00 Andre Tampubolon :

> Seperti iOS ya
> Saya sih utk aplikasi multimedia tetap preferable bisa akses external
> storage...
>
> ---
> SM-N900
> GPG public key:
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arianto C Nugroho 
> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
> Kompas.com Tekno
>
> dari artikel di :
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
>
> sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
> aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
> sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
> storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..
>
> ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
> terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..
>
>
> mengkutip :
> "Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on external
> storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure. This
> enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
> storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
> permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
> freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
> with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
> wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."
>
> The Consequences
>
> Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:
>
>- An app without any permissions:
>   - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
>   primary and secondary storage
>- With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
>   - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
>   storage
>   - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD card)
>   storage
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :
>
>> Dear all,
>> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>
>>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>>
>>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>>
>>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>>
>>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>
>>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>>> 😁😁😁
>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap
>>>>>>> ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa 
>>>>>>> tinggal
>>>&

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Arif Budiman
Ih ga asik banget
Saya biasa ngumpulin file hasil download berbagai apps dalam 1 folder saja
biar gampang nyarinya.
Btw apps explorer/file manager gimana nih, masa cuma bisa akses sebagian
tempat doang.

~Going Pro with G Pro~
On 4 Mar 2014 16:26, "Arianto C Nugroho"  wrote:

> tetap punya akses kok .. tapi READ only ..
>
> jadi misalnya kita punya Video Player atau Music Player app, akan tetap
> bisa play film atau mp3 yang disimpan dimana saja (internal/external) ..
> tapi kalau kita rekam video, app itu aja bisa simpan file di directory-nya
> saja, tidak bisa disembarang directory ..
>
>
> 2014-03-04 9:19 GMT+01:00 Andre Tampubolon :
>
>> Seperti iOS ya
>> Saya sih utk aplikasi multimedia tetap preferable bisa akses external
>> storage...
>>
>> ---
>> SM-N900
>> GPG public key:
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Arianto C Nugroho 
>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>
>> dari artikel di :
>> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
>>
>> sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
>> aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
>> sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
>> storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..
>>
>> ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
>> terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..
>>
>>
>> mengkutip :
>> "Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on
>> external storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure.
>> This enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
>> storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
>> permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
>> freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
>> with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
>> wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."
>>
>> The Consequences
>>
>> Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:
>>
>>- An app without any permissions:
>>   - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
>>   primary and secondary storage
>>- With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
>>   - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
>>   storage
>>   - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD
>>   card) storage
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>>>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>>>
>>>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>>>
>>>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD
>>>>> - Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>>>> 😁😁😁
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Mardi B
Yang paling kerasa dihantam kebijakan ini aplikasi aplikasi file explorer
sepertinya. Fungsi utama mereka kan memang "otak atik" folder lain soalnya
hehehe
On Mar 4, 2014 4:26 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" 
wrote:

> tetap punya akses kok .. tapi READ only ..
>
> jadi misalnya kita punya Video Player atau Music Player app, akan tetap
> bisa play film atau mp3 yang disimpan dimana saja (internal/external) ..
> tapi kalau kita rekam video, app itu aja bisa simpan file di directory-nya
> saja, tidak bisa disembarang directory ..
>
>
> 2014-03-04 9:19 GMT+01:00 Andre Tampubolon :
>
>> Seperti iOS ya
>> Saya sih utk aplikasi multimedia tetap preferable bisa akses external
>> storage...
>>
>> ---
>> SM-N900
>> GPG public key:
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Arianto C Nugroho 
>> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 2:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>
>> dari artikel di :
>> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
>>
>> sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
>> aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
>> sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
>> storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..
>>
>> ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
>> terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..
>>
>>
>> mengkutip :
>> "Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on
>> external storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure.
>> This enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
>> storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
>> permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
>> freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
>> with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
>> wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."
>>
>> The Consequences
>>
>> Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:
>>
>>- An app without any permissions:
>>   - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
>>   primary and secondary storage
>>- With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
>>   - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
>>   storage
>>   - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD
>>   card) storage
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>>>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>>>
>>>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>>>
>>>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD
>>>>> - Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>>>> 😁😁😁
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>&g

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Arianto C Nugroho
tetap punya akses kok .. tapi READ only ..

jadi misalnya kita punya Video Player atau Music Player app, akan tetap
bisa play film atau mp3 yang disimpan dimana saja (internal/external) ..
tapi kalau kita rekam video, app itu aja bisa simpan file di directory-nya
saja, tidak bisa disembarang directory ..


2014-03-04 9:19 GMT+01:00 Andre Tampubolon :

> Seperti iOS ya
> Saya sih utk aplikasi multimedia tetap preferable bisa akses external
> storage...
>
> ---
> SM-N900
> GPG public key:
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arianto C Nugroho 
> To: id-android@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
> Kompas.com Tekno
>
> dari artikel di :
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/
>
> sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
> aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
> sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
> storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..
>
> ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
> terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..
>
>
> mengkutip :
> "Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on external
> storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure. This
> enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
> storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
> permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
> freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
> with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
> wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."
>
> The Consequences
>
> Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:
>
>- An app without any permissions:
>   - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
>   primary and secondary storage
>- With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
>   - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
>   storage
>   - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD card)
>   storage
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :
>
>> Dear all,
>> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>
>>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>>
>>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>>
>>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>>
>>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>
>>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>>> 😁😁😁
>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap
>>>>>>> ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa 
>>>>>>> tinggal
>>>>>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus 
>>>>>>> namanya
>>>>>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>>>>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>>>>>
>>&

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-04 Terurut Topik Andre Tampubolon
Seperti iOS ya
Saya sih utk aplikasi multimedia tetap preferable bisa akses external 
storage... 

---
SM-N900
GPG public key:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF

-Original Message-
From: Arianto C Nugroho 
To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com 
Tekno

dari artikel di :
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/

sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..

ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..


mengkutip :
"Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on external
storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure. This
enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."

The Consequences

Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:

   - An app without any permissions:
  - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
  primary and secondary storage
   - With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
  - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
  storage
  - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD card)
  storage



2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :

> Dear all,
> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>
>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>
>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>
>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>
>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>
>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>> 😁😁😁
>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>
>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap
>>>>>> ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa 
>>>>>> tinggal
>>>>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya
>>>>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>>>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>>>>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>>>>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks
>>>>>>> tersebut?
>>>>>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Ma

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik Arianto C Nugroho
dari artikel di :
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/

sepertinya ini salah satu pendekatan Google untuk membuat Android lebih
aman .. Aplikasi hanya punya akses penuh ke struktur direktori miliknya
sendiri (bukan app lain) ..  jadi bukannya tidak bisa pakai external
storage, tapi dibatasi akses-nya ..

ini lebih aman karena kalau ada malware, dia hanya punya full access
terhadap direktori-nya sendiri, bukan direktori app lain ..


mengkutip :
"Starting in Android 4.4, the owner, group and modes of files on external
storage devices are now synthesized based on directory structure. This
enables apps to manage their package-specific directories on external
storage without requiring they hold the broad WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
permission. For example, the app with package name com.example.foo can now
freely access Android/data/com.example.foo/ on external storage devices
with no permissions. These synthesized permissions are accomplished by
wrapping raw storage devices in a FUSE daemon."

The Consequences

Just to sum up, here are the options 3rd-party apps have on KitKat:

   - An app without any permissions:
  - Automatic read and write for designated private folders on the
  primary and secondary storage
   - With WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE, they also have:
  - Read and write for any public folder on the primary (built-in)
  storage
  - Read (not write) for any public folder on the secondary (SD card)
  storage



2014-03-03 16:59 GMT+07:00 tjahjono mulyadi :

> Dear all,
> Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
>  On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>
>> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>>
>>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>>
>>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>>
>>>*From: *zoa fridz
>>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>
>>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>>> 😁😁😁
>>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>>
>>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap
>>>>>> ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa 
>>>>>> tinggal
>>>>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya
>>>>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>>>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>>>>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>>>>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks
>>>>>>> tersebut?
>>>>>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>>>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon" 
>>>>>>>> wrote:

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik Reinaldy
kalau tipe nya n9005 memang secara resmi sudah ada update an, yg buat jadi 
bisa nge write ke ext sd, jadi ngga usah di root n fix segala~
harusnya n9000 menyusul, update an buat n9005 nya dah dari seminggu yg lalu~
tinggal htc one ds nya ni, mikir2 deh, beli htc.

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:42:16 AM UTC+7, Rudy Tjandra wrote:
>
> Walah kudu diroot. Klo nexus ane brani klo samsul gak brani apalagi punya 
> nyonya.
> On Mar 4, 2014 5:38 AM, "Iggy Budiman H." 
> > 
> wrote:
>
>> Udah coba fixnya, gampang kok. Cuman edit file permission.xml
>> Sudah coba pakai kamera dan file manager, udah bisa tulis di sdcard.
>>
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
>>
>> salam
>> -iggy
>> --
>> KitKat.GalaxyS4.R970.03
>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>
>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. 
>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>
>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik Rudy Tjandra
Walah kudu diroot. Klo nexus ane brani klo samsul gak brani apalagi punya
nyonya.
On Mar 4, 2014 5:38 AM, "Iggy Budiman H." 
wrote:

> Udah coba fixnya, gampang kok. Cuman edit file permission.xml
> Sudah coba pakai kamera dan file manager, udah bisa tulis di sdcard.
>
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
>
> salam
> -iggy
> --
> KitKat.GalaxyS4.R970.03
> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>
>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>
>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>
>> --
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik Iggy Budiman H.
Udah coba fixnya, gampang kok. Cuman edit file permission.xml
Sudah coba pakai kamera dan file manager, udah bisa tulis di sdcard.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921

salam
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On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:

>
> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>
> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo
> gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>
> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>
> --
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik tjahjono mulyadi
Dear all,
Sejak upgrade kitkat di note 3, kok reminder gak bunyi ya?
 On Mar 3, 2014 4:26 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:

> Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))
>
>
> 2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :
>
>> Cieh merendah nih!
>>
>> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
>> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>>
>>*From: *zoa fridz
>> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>
>> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
>> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
>> 😁😁😁
>> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>
>>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>>
>>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>>> gimana, Bang?
>>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>>> 😄😄😄
>>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada
>>>>> ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal
>>>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya
>>>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>>>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>>>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>>>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon" 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> SM-N900
>>>>>>>> GPG public key:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>>>> To: id-android 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD
>>>>>>>> - Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa
>>>>>>>> bikin pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga
>>>>>>>> dipotong OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. 
>>>>>>>> Paling2
>>>>>>>> net buat user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud
>>>>>>>>> storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik abangkis
Nah lo udah ada yg ngakuin lu jago tuh zoa :))


2014-03-03 16:06 GMT+07:00 Anwar Thamrin :

> Cieh merendah nih!
>
> Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..
> *abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*
>
>*From: *zoa fridz
> *Sent: *Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47
> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
> Kompas.com Tekno
>
> Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
> Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
> 😁😁😁
> On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>
>> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
>> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>>
>>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>>> gimana, Bang?
>>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>>> 😄😄😄
>>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>>
>>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada
>>>> ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal
>>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya
>>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>>>
>>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>>>
>>>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> SM-N900
>>>>>>> GPG public key:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>>> To: id-android 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa
>>>>>>> bikin pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga
>>>>>>> dipotong OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. 
>>>>>>> Paling2
>>>>>>> net buat user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud
>>>>>>>> storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>
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2014-03-03 Terurut Topik Anwar Thamrin
Cieh merendah nih!Zoa jago.. gw akuin itu..*abis diflash jadi unified P780 gw*   From: zoa fridzSent: Senin, 3 Maret 2014 15.47To: id-android@googlegroups.comReply To: id-android@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com TeknoNah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
😁😁😁
On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis" <abang...@gmail.com> wrote:
Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz <zoa.fr...@gmail.com>:


Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source gimana, Bang?
Pan pengen keren gitu..
😄😄😄
On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis" <abang...@gmail.com> wrote:



Iya, gak nyambung :) Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P 





2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser <giopanser.andr...@gmail.com>:





Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
Saya newbie, awam sama open source
Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?

On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan" <irvangad...@gmail.com> wrote:






Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...Sent from my iPadOn Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com> wrote:






Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon" <an...@lc.vlsm.org> wrote:







Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om? 

---
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GPG public key:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF-Original Message-From: Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com>







To: id-android <id-android@googlegroups.com>Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AMSubject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno







Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user space cm 4 - 5 gb









On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" <shafiq@gmail.com> wrote:








http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD









Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))



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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-03 Terurut Topik zoa fridz
Nah tapi kan ini kasusnya gw ga jago..
Jadi cuma bisa koar² biar keliatan keren dan ada semangat open source..
😁😁😁
On Mar 3, 2014 12:57 PM, "abangkis"  wrote:

> Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
> kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D
>
>
> 2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :
>
>> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source
>> gimana, Bang?
>> Pan pengen keren gitu..
>> 😄😄😄
>> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>>
>>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>>
>>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada
>>> ya buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal
>>> cari Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya
>>> bukan semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek
>>> sendiri untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>>
>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>>
>>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> SM-N900
>>>>>> GPG public key:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>> To: id-android 
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>>>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga 
>>>>>> dipotong
>>>>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net 
>>>>>> buat
>>>>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud
>>>>>>> storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup
>>>>>>> ini, kirim email ke id-android+berhenti
>>>>>>> berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>&g

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik abangkis
Gampang, taro aja hasil koprek2nya di internet. Terus linknya dikasih
kesini. Jangan di umpetin di dalam kamar terus zoa. Kan lu jago :D


2014-03-03 12:16 GMT+07:00 zoa fridz :

> Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source gimana,
> Bang?
> Pan pengen keren gitu..
> 😄😄😄
> On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:
>
>> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>>
>> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada ya
>> buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal cari
>> Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya bukan
>> semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek sendiri
>> untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>>
>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>
>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> SM-N900
>>>>> GPG public key:
>>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>> To: id-android 
>>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>
>>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud
>>>>>> storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup
>>>>>> ini, kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>
>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.goo

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik zoa fridz
Kalo gw gangerti cara koprek² trus pengen sok semangat open source gimana,
Bang?
Pan pengen keren gitu..
😄😄😄
On Mar 3, 2014 11:15 AM, "abangkis"  wrote:

> Iya, gak nyambung :)
>
> Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada ya
> buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal cari
> Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya bukan
> semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek sendiri
> untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P
>
>
> 2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :
>
>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>
>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>
>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> SM-N900
>>>> GPG public key:
>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>> To: id-android 
>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>
>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>
>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>
>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android 

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Abdul Hadi G
+1 sepaham dengan om eko -sol-
On Mar 2, 2014 11:51 AM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:

> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
> space cm 4 - 5 gb
> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>
>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>
>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>
>> --
>> ==
>> ID-Android on YouTube
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>> 
>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>
>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>> ==
>> ---
>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>
>  --
> ==
> ID-Android on YouTube
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
> 
> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>
> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
> ==
> ---
> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>

-- 
==
ID-Android on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A 

Aturan Umum  ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB

Join Forum   ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
==
--- 
Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] Indonesian 
Android Community " dari Grup Google.
Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, kirim 
email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.


Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Rudy Tjandra
Ini kan udh dibahas lngkp di sini
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/17/external-blues-google-has-brought-big-changes-to-sd-cards-in-kitkat-and-even-samsung-may-be-implementing-them/

-- 
==
ID-Android on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A 

Aturan Umum  ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB

Join Forum   ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
==
--- 
Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] Indonesian 
Android Community " dari Grup Google.
Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, kirim 
email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.


Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Andi - leo5354
Jadinya jaka sembung donk bro
Ha..ha..ha..ha..ha


The era where lot of phones is smarter than their users

-Original Message-
From: abangkis 
Sender: id-android@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 11:14:34 
To: Idandroid
Reply-To: id-android@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
 Kompas.com Tekno

Iya, gak nyambung :)

Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada ya
buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal cari
Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya bukan
semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek sendiri
untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P


2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :

> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>
> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>
>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo  wrote:
>>
>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>
>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> SM-N900
>>> GPG public key:
>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> To: id-android 
>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>
>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>
>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>
>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>
>>>  --
>>> ==
>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==
>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> Kunjungi grup i

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik abangkis
Iya, gak nyambung :)

Kalau memang ingin akses ke external storage dengan API lama tetap ada ya
buat sendiri dong. Untungnya karena komunitasnya aktif, bisa tinggal cari
Custom ROM yang support hal ini. Kalau maunya disuapin terus namanya bukan
semangat open-source. Semangat open-source itu mau oprek-oprek sendiri
untuk hal-hal yg kita mau dan suka :P


2014-03-02 20:17 GMT+07:00 Gio Panser :

> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>
> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>
>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo  wrote:
>>
>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>
>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> SM-N900
>>> GPG public key:
>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> To: id-android 
>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>
>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>
>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>
>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>
>>>  --
>>> ==
>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==
>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>
>>  --
>> ==
>> ID-Android on YouTube
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>> 
>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>
>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>> 

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
Klo ubuntu phone gmn om?
On Mar 3, 2014 6:43 AM, "hanafi f"  wrote:

> tizen *konon* awet bener batrenya...
>
> 3x lebih awet dari android  *galaxy gear*
>
>
> --
> | hanafi f™ | @h4nafi | japri : y...@terserah.de™ |
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 4:41 GMT+07:00 Ari Fahrizal Rahman :
>
>> Samsung sudah gosok2 tangan sambil senyam senyum kayak pamannya aladdin
>> mau ngeluarin handset berbasis tizen :)
>>
>> Salam
>>
>> Ari Fahrizal
>> On Mar 2, 2014 9:59 PM, "satrio"  wrote:
>>
>>> Ya kalau dirasa android nantinya sudah tidak nyaman untuk dipakai ya
>>> ganti handset saja dengan OS yang lain..
>>> Asumsi nantinya ada OS baru yang bisa mengakomodir semuanya..
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 8:18 PM, "Gio Panser" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>>
>>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> SM-N900
>>>>>> GPG public key:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>>> To: id-android 
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>>>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga 
>>>>>> dipotong
>>>>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net 
>>>>>> buat
>>>>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab" 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud
>>>>>>> storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup
>>>>>>> ini, kirim email ke id-android+berhenti
>>>>>>> berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>>> ==
>>&

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik hanafi f
tizen *konon* awet bener batrenya...

3x lebih awet dari android  *galaxy gear*


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2014-03-03 4:41 GMT+07:00 Ari Fahrizal Rahman :

> Samsung sudah gosok2 tangan sambil senyam senyum kayak pamannya aladdin
> mau ngeluarin handset berbasis tizen :)
>
> Salam
>
> Ari Fahrizal
> On Mar 2, 2014 9:59 PM, "satrio"  wrote:
>
>> Ya kalau dirasa android nantinya sudah tidak nyaman untuk dipakai ya
>> ganti handset saja dengan OS yang lain..
>> Asumsi nantinya ada OS baru yang bisa mengakomodir semuanya..
>> On Mar 2, 2014 8:18 PM, "Gio Panser"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>>
>>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> SM-N900
>>>>> GPG public key:
>>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>>> To: id-android 
>>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>>
>>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud
>>>>>> storage. Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>>> ==
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup
>>>>>> ini, kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>
>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>> https://w

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik hanafi f
samsung mungkin masih *kagok* sama kitkat, makanya *agak* error pas update
Note3 ke kitkat.
toh Galaxy S5 juga pake micro SD :D

biarin aja HTC sama LG gak pake microSD...
^.^


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On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Reinaldy  wrote:

> kitkat HTC One DS juga salah satu device yang ngga bisa "write" di ext sd,
> sedangkan kitkat N9005 sudah ada update an yg bisa nge "write" ke sd, jadi
> walau perkembangan android membatasi penggunaan sd, pihak produsen terkait
> masih bisa "merubah", tinggal kemauan produsen nya aza, yg pasti sampai
> saat ini HTC masih ngga bisa... (lumayan rada kapok ama ni merek) ntah
> merek2 lain...
>
>
>

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Aturan Umum  ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB

Join Forum   ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
==
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Android Community " dari Grup Google.
Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, kirim 
email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Ari Fahrizal Rahman
Samsung sudah gosok2 tangan sambil senyam senyum kayak pamannya aladdin mau
ngeluarin handset berbasis tizen :)

Salam

Ari Fahrizal
On Mar 2, 2014 9:59 PM, "satrio"  wrote:

> Ya kalau dirasa android nantinya sudah tidak nyaman untuk dipakai ya ganti
> handset saja dengan OS yang lain..
> Asumsi nantinya ada OS baru yang bisa mengakomodir semuanya..
> On Mar 2, 2014 8:18 PM, "Gio Panser"  wrote:
>
>> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>>
>> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
>> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
>> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>>
>>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> SM-N900
>>>> GPG public key:
>>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>>> To: id-android 
>>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>>
>>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>>
>>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>>
>>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>>
>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berla

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Hendrik Setiawan
Kg sepenuhnya salah juga sih, Om. Ada temen diluar make ipon yg
kapasitasnya kg gede2 amad. Sisanya data disimpen di cloud.

Bisa disimpen di cloud krn didukung dengan internet yg cepet jd mudah untuk
diaksesnya.
 On Mar 2, 2014 11:51 AM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:

> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
> space cm 4 - 5 gb
> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>
>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>
>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>
>> --
>> ==
>> ID-Android on YouTube
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>> 
>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>
>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>> ==
>> ---
>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>
>  --
> ==
> ID-Android on YouTube
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
> 
> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>
> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
> ==
> ---
> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A 

Aturan Umum  ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB

Join Forum   ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
==
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Android Community " dari Grup Google.
Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, kirim 
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik satrio
Ya kalau dirasa android nantinya sudah tidak nyaman untuk dipakai ya ganti
handset saja dengan OS yang lain..
Asumsi nantinya ada OS baru yang bisa mengakomodir semuanya..
On Mar 2, 2014 8:18 PM, "Gio Panser"  wrote:

> Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...
>
> Saya newbie, awam sama open source
> Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
> Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
>  On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:
>
>> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo  wrote:
>>
>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>
>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> SM-N900
>>> GPG public key:
>>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> To: id-android 
>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>
>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>
>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>
>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==
>>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>>> 
>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>>
>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>>> ==
>>>> ---
>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>>
>>>  --
>>> ==
>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==
>>> ID-Android on YouTube
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>>> 
>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>>
>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>>> ==
>>> ---
>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android]
>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google.
>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini,
>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
>>> Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.
>>>
>>  --
>> ==
>> ID-Android on YouTube
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>> 
>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB
>>
>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
>> ==
>> ---
>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena berlangganan grup "[id-android] Indonesian
>> Android Community " Grup Google.
>> Untuk berh

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Joule
lebih aman. beside G2 internal nya lebih dari cukup
On Mar 2, 2014 8:15 PM, "Gio Panser"  wrote:

> Bukannya malah bagus, jadi melindungi dari pembajakan om?
> On Mar 2, 2014 6:15 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:
>
>> Ke depan bakal mulai batasi apps yg di install dr apk. Udh ada tanda2nya
>> tuh. Mgkin mksd awalnya utk menekan malware tp bs jg utk tujuan lain.
>> Killswitch misalnya. Contoh: Developer memutuskan menarik aplikasinya dr
>> playstore & minta google utk hapus semua apps developer tsb yg terinstall
>> di handset & memblok instalasi apps tsb dr apk mentahan.
>> On Mar 2, 2014 5:32 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kalo soal storage kepake utk system dll, kayaknya dimana2 juga begitu
>>> oom. Gak ada device yg kasih storage space murni tanpa terpakai utk system.
>>>
>>> Justru karena itulah ada alternatif murah utk pake external storage.
>>>
>>> Makanya rese juga nih Google pake membatasi external storage segala.
>>> Kalau mereka mau menjauh dari pemakaian external storage utk Nexus series
>>> ato device2nya mereka ya monggo aja. Tp jgn batasi vendor2 lain yg tetap
>>> mau kasih opsi murah tsb lah.
>>>
>>> Mulai bikin penjara baru kyknya ini Google. Berikutnya mau batasi apa
>>> lagi ya mereka? Hmmm...
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Yoshwar
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:11 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:
>>>
 Hahaha.. bkn om. Ini kan cm artikel nemu di internet. Intinya sih klo
 beli handset dgn memory internal terbatas ada opsi pke ext sdcard buat
 nampung data. Nah skrg dgn kitkat opsi ext sdcard ini mulai dibatasi. Blm
 lg internal storage itu ga pure buat user semua. Hrs dibagi2 dgn OS +
 aplikasi.  Nah skrg tau sendiri kan OS aj udh makan tempat brp?

 Trs user taro data dimana? Cloud? Dgn infrastruktur jaringan disini apa
 bisa cloud diandalkan? Blm lg dgn isu sadap2an kmrn.

 Cmiiw.
 On Mar 2, 2014 4:53 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:

> Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
> Good luck bro, semoga sukses.
>
> Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo  > wrote:
>
>>
>> http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/
>>
>> The tablet memory mark-up scandal
>> by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
>> Tablets
>> 20/11/2013
>>
>> It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an
>> extra 16GB of tablet memory. But they'll charge you as much as £80 for 
>> the
>> privilege.
>>
>> Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the
>> tablet industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your 
>> apps
>> and files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that 
>> costs
>> manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.
>>
>> Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to
>> choose the best tablet
>> The true cost of tablet memory
>>
>> There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what
>> they choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up
>> from a 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from 
>> £40
>> to £80:
>>
>> Most tablet manufacturers don't produce their own Flash storage.
>> Instead, they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although
>> individual deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash
>> memory is a traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers
>> such as DRAMeXchange.
>>
>> According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange
>> from August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on
>> average £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying 
>> in
>> bulk, the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory
>> (MLC) to its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 
>> 16GB
>> in October.
>>
>> Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers
>> £80 more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That's a profitable
>> mark-up of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.
>>
>> Apple charges a premium that's far above what most of its rivals add
>> on for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40
>> more for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google
>> adds a sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB 
>> model.
>> Insider verdict: 'scandalous'
>>
>> These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy
>> blocks of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet 
>> manufacturers.
>>
>> Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in
>> high-end machines. It buys its Flash 

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Darma Suyoga
Mungkin harapan kita yang mungkin terjadi

Produsen hp china memberikan internal memory yang besar pada handsets
mereka... Toh kenaikan tiap 16 GB cumen $6 ( kalo bener sih)...

Kemudian global brand merasa tertekan dan memberikan internal memory lebih
besar pada handset mereka :)))

*cuma khayalan


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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Gio Panser
Kok malah melebar kemana mana sih...

Saya newbie, awam sama open source
Apasih arti sesungguhnya dari open source ?
Apakah membatasi pemakaian ext memori termasuk dalah konteks tersebut?
 On Mar 2, 2014 7:42 PM, "Irvan"  wrote:

> Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo  wrote:
>
> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>
>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>
>> ---
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>> GPG public key:
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>> To: id-android 
>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>
>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
>> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
>> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
>> space cm 4 - 5 gb
>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>
>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>
>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Gio Panser
Bukannya malah bagus, jadi melindungi dari pembajakan om?
On Mar 2, 2014 6:15 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:

> Ke depan bakal mulai batasi apps yg di install dr apk. Udh ada tanda2nya
> tuh. Mgkin mksd awalnya utk menekan malware tp bs jg utk tujuan lain.
> Killswitch misalnya. Contoh: Developer memutuskan menarik aplikasinya dr
> playstore & minta google utk hapus semua apps developer tsb yg terinstall
> di handset & memblok instalasi apps tsb dr apk mentahan.
> On Mar 2, 2014 5:32 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:
>
>> Kalo soal storage kepake utk system dll, kayaknya dimana2 juga begitu
>> oom. Gak ada device yg kasih storage space murni tanpa terpakai utk system.
>>
>> Justru karena itulah ada alternatif murah utk pake external storage.
>>
>> Makanya rese juga nih Google pake membatasi external storage segala.
>> Kalau mereka mau menjauh dari pemakaian external storage utk Nexus series
>> ato device2nya mereka ya monggo aja. Tp jgn batasi vendor2 lain yg tetap
>> mau kasih opsi murah tsb lah.
>>
>> Mulai bikin penjara baru kyknya ini Google. Berikutnya mau batasi apa
>> lagi ya mereka? Hmmm...
>>
>> Salam,
>> Yoshwar
>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:11 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hahaha.. bkn om. Ini kan cm artikel nemu di internet. Intinya sih klo
>>> beli handset dgn memory internal terbatas ada opsi pke ext sdcard buat
>>> nampung data. Nah skrg dgn kitkat opsi ext sdcard ini mulai dibatasi. Blm
>>> lg internal storage itu ga pure buat user semua. Hrs dibagi2 dgn OS +
>>> aplikasi.  Nah skrg tau sendiri kan OS aj udh makan tempat brp?
>>>
>>> Trs user taro data dimana? Cloud? Dgn infrastruktur jaringan disini apa
>>> bisa cloud diandalkan? Blm lg dgn isu sadap2an kmrn.
>>>
>>> Cmiiw.
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 4:53 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:
>>>
 Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
 Good luck bro, semoga sukses.

 Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)

 Salam,
 Yoshwar


 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
 wrote:

>
> http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/
>
> The tablet memory mark-up scandal
> by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
> Tablets
> 20/11/2013
>
> It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an
> extra 16GB of tablet memory. But they'll charge you as much as £80 for the
> privilege.
>
> Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the
> tablet industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your 
> apps
> and files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs
> manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.
>
> Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to
> choose the best tablet
> The true cost of tablet memory
>
> There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what
> they choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up
> from a 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40
> to £80:
>
> Most tablet manufacturers don't produce their own Flash storage.
> Instead, they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although
> individual deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash
> memory is a traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers
> such as DRAMeXchange.
>
> According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange
> from August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on
> average £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying 
> in
> bulk, the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory
> (MLC) to its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB
> in October.
>
> Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80
> more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That's a profitable 
> mark-up
> of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.
>
> Apple charges a premium that's far above what most of its rivals add
> on for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40
> more for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google
> adds a sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB 
> model.
> Insider verdict: 'scandalous'
>
> These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy
> blocks of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet 
> manufacturers.
>
> Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end
> machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who 
> make
> the Flash storage components found in tablets. '16GB of Flash memory is
> mind-numbingly cheap now,' says Chillblast's Ben Miles. 'As a general 
> rule,
> for ma

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Irvan
Semangat open source lama lama menghilang...

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Eko Prasetiyo  wrote:
> 
> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb dibanding 
> microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om? 
>> 
>> ---
>> SM-N900
>> GPG public key:
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>> To: id-android 
>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - 
>> Kompas.com Tekno
>> 
>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke 
>> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS & 
>> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user 
>> space cm 4 - 5 gb
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>> 
>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo 
>>> gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>> 
>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>> 
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2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
Ke depan bakal mulai batasi apps yg di install dr apk. Udh ada tanda2nya
tuh. Mgkin mksd awalnya utk menekan malware tp bs jg utk tujuan lain.
Killswitch misalnya. Contoh: Developer memutuskan menarik aplikasinya dr
playstore & minta google utk hapus semua apps developer tsb yg terinstall
di handset & memblok instalasi apps tsb dr apk mentahan.
On Mar 2, 2014 5:32 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:

> Kalo soal storage kepake utk system dll, kayaknya dimana2 juga begitu oom.
> Gak ada device yg kasih storage space murni tanpa terpakai utk system.
>
> Justru karena itulah ada alternatif murah utk pake external storage.
>
> Makanya rese juga nih Google pake membatasi external storage segala. Kalau
> mereka mau menjauh dari pemakaian external storage utk Nexus series ato
> device2nya mereka ya monggo aja. Tp jgn batasi vendor2 lain yg tetap mau
> kasih opsi murah tsb lah.
>
> Mulai bikin penjara baru kyknya ini Google. Berikutnya mau batasi apa lagi
> ya mereka? Hmmm...
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
> On Mar 2, 2014 1:11 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:
>
>> Hahaha.. bkn om. Ini kan cm artikel nemu di internet. Intinya sih klo
>> beli handset dgn memory internal terbatas ada opsi pke ext sdcard buat
>> nampung data. Nah skrg dgn kitkat opsi ext sdcard ini mulai dibatasi. Blm
>> lg internal storage itu ga pure buat user semua. Hrs dibagi2 dgn OS +
>> aplikasi.  Nah skrg tau sendiri kan OS aj udh makan tempat brp?
>>
>> Trs user taro data dimana? Cloud? Dgn infrastruktur jaringan disini apa
>> bisa cloud diandalkan? Blm lg dgn isu sadap2an kmrn.
>>
>> Cmiiw.
>> On Mar 2, 2014 4:53 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:
>>
>>> Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
>>> Good luck bro, semoga sukses.
>>>
>>> Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Yoshwar
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/

 The tablet memory mark-up scandal
 by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
 Tablets
 20/11/2013

 It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an
 extra 16GB of tablet memory. But they’ll charge you as much as £80 for the
 privilege.

 Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the tablet
 industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your apps and
 files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs
 manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.

 Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to choose
 the best tablet
 The true cost of tablet memory

 There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what they
 choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up from a
 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40 to £80:

 Most tablet manufacturers don’t produce their own Flash storage.
 Instead, they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although
 individual deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash
 memory is a traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers
 such as DRAMeXchange.

 According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange from
 August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on average
 £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying in bulk,
 the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory (MLC) to
 its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB in
 October.

 Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80
 more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That’s a profitable mark-up
 of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.

 Apple charges a premium that’s far above what most of its rivals add on
 for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40 more
 for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google adds a
 sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB model.
 Insider verdict: ‘scandalous’

 These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy
 blocks of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet manufacturers.

 Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end
 machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who make
 the Flash storage components found in tablets. ‘16GB of Flash memory is
 mind-numbingly cheap now,’ says Chillblast’s Ben Miles. ‘As a general rule,
 for manufacturers like ourselves, Flash costs less than 40p per GB, so for
 companies to charge so much for an extra 16GB seems scandalous.’

 And it seems there are few additional manufacturing overheads created
 by the addition of extra storage. ‘The differenc

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Iggy Budiman H.
Kalau gitu kenapa KitKat CM11/AOSP/dll. nggak bermasalah dengan ext.
storage?

salam
-iggy
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On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:

>
> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>
> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo
> gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>
> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Yoshwar S
Kalo soal storage kepake utk system dll, kayaknya dimana2 juga begitu oom.
Gak ada device yg kasih storage space murni tanpa terpakai utk system.

Justru karena itulah ada alternatif murah utk pake external storage.

Makanya rese juga nih Google pake membatasi external storage segala. Kalau
mereka mau menjauh dari pemakaian external storage utk Nexus series ato
device2nya mereka ya monggo aja. Tp jgn batasi vendor2 lain yg tetap mau
kasih opsi murah tsb lah.

Mulai bikin penjara baru kyknya ini Google. Berikutnya mau batasi apa lagi
ya mereka? Hmmm...

Salam,
Yoshwar
On Mar 2, 2014 1:11 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:

> Hahaha.. bkn om. Ini kan cm artikel nemu di internet. Intinya sih klo beli
> handset dgn memory internal terbatas ada opsi pke ext sdcard buat nampung
> data. Nah skrg dgn kitkat opsi ext sdcard ini mulai dibatasi. Blm lg
> internal storage itu ga pure buat user semua. Hrs dibagi2 dgn OS +
> aplikasi.  Nah skrg tau sendiri kan OS aj udh makan tempat brp?
>
> Trs user taro data dimana? Cloud? Dgn infrastruktur jaringan disini apa
> bisa cloud diandalkan? Blm lg dgn isu sadap2an kmrn.
>
> Cmiiw.
> On Mar 2, 2014 4:53 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:
>
>> Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
>> Good luck bro, semoga sukses.
>>
>> Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)
>>
>> Salam,
>> Yoshwar
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/
>>>
>>> The tablet memory mark-up scandal
>>> by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
>>> Tablets
>>> 20/11/2013
>>>
>>> It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an extra
>>> 16GB of tablet memory. But they'll charge you as much as £80 for the
>>> privilege.
>>>
>>> Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the tablet
>>> industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your apps and
>>> files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs
>>> manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.
>>>
>>> Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to choose
>>> the best tablet
>>> The true cost of tablet memory
>>>
>>> There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what they
>>> choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up from a
>>> 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40 to £80:
>>>
>>> Most tablet manufacturers don't produce their own Flash storage.
>>> Instead, they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although
>>> individual deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash
>>> memory is a traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers
>>> such as DRAMeXchange.
>>>
>>> According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange from
>>> August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on average
>>> £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying in bulk,
>>> the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory (MLC) to
>>> its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB in
>>> October.
>>>
>>> Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80
>>> more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That's a profitable mark-up
>>> of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.
>>>
>>> Apple charges a premium that's far above what most of its rivals add on
>>> for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40 more
>>> for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google adds a
>>> sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB model.
>>> Insider verdict: 'scandalous'
>>>
>>> These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy blocks
>>> of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet manufacturers.
>>>
>>> Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end
>>> machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who make
>>> the Flash storage components found in tablets. '16GB of Flash memory is
>>> mind-numbingly cheap now,' says Chillblast's Ben Miles. 'As a general rule,
>>> for manufacturers like ourselves, Flash costs less than 40p per GB, so for
>>> companies to charge so much for an extra 16GB seems scandalous.'
>>>
>>> And it seems there are few additional manufacturing overheads created by
>>> the addition of extra storage. 'The difference in cost between
>>> manufacturing a product with 16GB and 32GB of memory would probably equate
>>> to less than $10,' says Miles.
>>> How to beat the tablet memory mark-up
>>>
>>> Although tablet storage may be limited, there are alternative ways of
>>> boosting your storage space without paying for a pricier model. You can
>>> keep your digital files safe and accessible using cloud storage service
>>> such as Dropbox, Google Drive, SkyDrive or iTunes Match.
>>>
>>> Some tablets have a card slot to let

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Reinaldy
kitkat HTC One DS juga salah satu device yang ngga bisa "write" di ext sd, 
sedangkan kitkat N9005 sudah ada update an yg bisa nge "write" ke sd, jadi 
walau perkembangan android membatasi penggunaan sd, pihak produsen terkait 
masih bisa "merubah", tinggal kemauan produsen nya aza, yg pasti sampai 
saat ini HTC masih ngga bisa... (lumayan rada kapok ama ni merek) ntah 
merek2 lain...

On Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:10:58 PM UTC+7, EkoPrasetiyo wrote:
>
> Hahaha.. bkn om. Ini kan cm artikel nemu di internet. Intinya sih klo beli 
> handset dgn memory internal terbatas ada opsi pke ext sdcard buat nampung 
> data. Nah skrg dgn kitkat opsi ext sdcard ini mulai dibatasi. Blm lg 
> internal storage itu ga pure buat user semua. Hrs dibagi2 dgn OS + 
> aplikasi.  Nah skrg tau sendiri kan OS aj udh makan tempat brp? 
>
> Trs user taro data dimana? Cloud? Dgn infrastruktur jaringan disini apa 
> bisa cloud diandalkan? Blm lg dgn isu sadap2an kmrn.
>
> Cmiiw.
> On Mar 2, 2014 4:53 PM, "Yoshwar S" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
>> Good luck bro, semoga sukses.
>>
>> Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)
>>
>> Salam,
>> Yoshwar
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/
>>>
>>> The tablet memory mark-up scandal
>>> by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor 
>>> Tablets 
>>> 20/11/2013 
>>>
>>> It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an extra 
>>> 16GB of tablet memory. But they’ll charge you as much as £80 for the 
>>> privilege.
>>>
>>> Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the tablet 
>>> industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your apps and 
>>> files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs 
>>> manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.
>>>
>>> Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to choose 
>>> the best tablet
>>> The true cost of tablet memory
>>>
>>> There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what they 
>>> choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up from a 
>>> 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40 to £80:
>>>
>>> Most tablet manufacturers don’t produce their own Flash storage. 
>>> Instead, they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although 
>>> individual deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash 
>>> memory is a traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers 
>>> such as DRAMeXchange.
>>>
>>> According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange from 
>>> August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on average 
>>> £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying in bulk, 
>>> the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory (MLC) to 
>>> its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB in 
>>> October.
>>>
>>> Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80 
>>> more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That’s a profitable mark-up 
>>> of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.
>>>
>>> Apple charges a premium that’s far above what most of its rivals add on 
>>> for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40 more 
>>> for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google adds a 
>>> sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB model.
>>> Insider verdict: ‘scandalous’
>>>
>>> These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy blocks 
>>> of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet manufacturers.
>>>
>>> Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end 
>>> machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who make 
>>> the Flash storage components found in tablets. ‘16GB of Flash memory is 
>>> mind-numbingly cheap now,’ says Chillblast’s Ben Miles. ‘As a general rule, 
>>> for manufacturers like ourselves, Flash costs less than 40p per GB, so for 
>>> companies to charge so much for an extra 16GB seems scandalous.’
>>>
>>> And it seems there are few additional manufacturing overheads created by 
>>> the addition of extra storage. ‘The difference in cost between 
>>> manufacturing a product with 16GB and 32GB of memory would probably equate 
>>> to less than $10,’ says Miles.
>>> How to beat the tablet memory mark-up
>>>
>>> Although tablet storage may be limited, there are alternative ways of 
>>> boosting your storage space without paying for a pricier model. You can 
>>> keep your digital files safe and accessible using cloud storage service 
>>> such as Dropbox, Google Drive, SkyDrive or iTunes Match.
>>>
>>> Some tablets have a card slot to let you insert an SD or microSD card. 
>>> These can provide up to 64GB of additional storage for around £35 – much

Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
Hahaha.. bkn om. Ini kan cm artikel nemu di internet. Intinya sih klo beli
handset dgn memory internal terbatas ada opsi pke ext sdcard buat nampung
data. Nah skrg dgn kitkat opsi ext sdcard ini mulai dibatasi. Blm lg
internal storage itu ga pure buat user semua. Hrs dibagi2 dgn OS +
aplikasi.  Nah skrg tau sendiri kan OS aj udh makan tempat brp?

Trs user taro data dimana? Cloud? Dgn infrastruktur jaringan disini apa
bisa cloud diandalkan? Blm lg dgn isu sadap2an kmrn.

Cmiiw.
On Mar 2, 2014 4:53 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:

> Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
> Good luck bro, semoga sukses.
>
> Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo wrote:
>
>>
>> http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/
>>
>> The tablet memory mark-up scandal
>> by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
>> Tablets
>> 20/11/2013
>>
>> It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an extra
>> 16GB of tablet memory. But they’ll charge you as much as £80 for the
>> privilege.
>>
>> Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the tablet
>> industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your apps and
>> files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs
>> manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.
>>
>> Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to choose
>> the best tablet
>> The true cost of tablet memory
>>
>> There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what they
>> choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up from a
>> 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40 to £80:
>>
>> Most tablet manufacturers don’t produce their own Flash storage. Instead,
>> they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although individual
>> deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash memory is a
>> traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers such as
>> DRAMeXchange.
>>
>> According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange from
>> August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on average
>> £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying in bulk,
>> the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory (MLC) to
>> its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB in
>> October.
>>
>> Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80
>> more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That’s a profitable mark-up
>> of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.
>>
>> Apple charges a premium that’s far above what most of its rivals add on
>> for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40 more
>> for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google adds a
>> sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB model.
>> Insider verdict: ‘scandalous’
>>
>> These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy blocks
>> of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet manufacturers.
>>
>> Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end
>> machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who make
>> the Flash storage components found in tablets. ‘16GB of Flash memory is
>> mind-numbingly cheap now,’ says Chillblast’s Ben Miles. ‘As a general rule,
>> for manufacturers like ourselves, Flash costs less than 40p per GB, so for
>> companies to charge so much for an extra 16GB seems scandalous.’
>>
>> And it seems there are few additional manufacturing overheads created by
>> the addition of extra storage. ‘The difference in cost between
>> manufacturing a product with 16GB and 32GB of memory would probably equate
>> to less than $10,’ says Miles.
>> How to beat the tablet memory mark-up
>>
>> Although tablet storage may be limited, there are alternative ways of
>> boosting your storage space without paying for a pricier model. You can
>> keep your digital files safe and accessible using cloud storage service
>> such as Dropbox, Google Drive, SkyDrive or iTunes Match.
>>
>> Some tablets have a card slot to let you insert an SD or microSD card.
>> These can provide up to 64GB of additional storage for around £35 – much
>> cheaper than buying extra internal storage. Most tablets won’t let you
>> store apps on a memory card, but extra storage is hugely useful for music,
>> videos and photos.
>>
>> Tablets that let you insert a memory card include the Samsung Galaxy Tab
>> 3, Microsoft Surface RT and Sony Xperia Tablet Z.
>>
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Yoshwar S
Jadi tuntutannya turunin mark-up harga internal storage gitu?
Good luck bro, semoga sukses.

Sementara itu saya nikmati dulu micro sd dgn harga murah :)

Salam,
Yoshwar


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eko Prasetiyo wrote:

>
> http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/
>
> The tablet memory mark-up scandal
> by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
> Tablets
> 20/11/2013
>
> It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an extra
> 16GB of tablet memory. But they'll charge you as much as £80 for the
> privilege.
>
> Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the tablet
> industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your apps and
> files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs
> manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.
>
> Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to choose
> the best tablet
> The true cost of tablet memory
>
> There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what they
> choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up from a
> 16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40 to £80:
>
> Most tablet manufacturers don't produce their own Flash storage. Instead,
> they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although individual
> deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash memory is a
> traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers such as
> DRAMeXchange.
>
> According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange from
> August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on average
> £5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying in bulk,
> the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory (MLC) to
> its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB in
> October.
>
> Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80
> more for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That's a profitable mark-up
> of at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.
>
> Apple charges a premium that's far above what most of its rivals add on
> for an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40 more
> for a 32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google adds a
> sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB model.
> Insider verdict: 'scandalous'
>
> These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy blocks
> of storage from the same supply chains used by tablet manufacturers.
>
> Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end
> machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who make
> the Flash storage components found in tablets. '16GB of Flash memory is
> mind-numbingly cheap now,' says Chillblast's Ben Miles. 'As a general rule,
> for manufacturers like ourselves, Flash costs less than 40p per GB, so for
> companies to charge so much for an extra 16GB seems scandalous.'
>
> And it seems there are few additional manufacturing overheads created by
> the addition of extra storage. 'The difference in cost between
> manufacturing a product with 16GB and 32GB of memory would probably equate
> to less than $10,' says Miles.
> How to beat the tablet memory mark-up
>
> Although tablet storage may be limited, there are alternative ways of
> boosting your storage space without paying for a pricier model. You can
> keep your digital files safe and accessible using cloud storage service
> such as Dropbox, Google Drive, SkyDrive or iTunes Match.
>
> Some tablets have a card slot to let you insert an SD or microSD card.
> These can provide up to 64GB of additional storage for around £35 - much
> cheaper than buying extra internal storage. Most tablets won't let you
> store apps on a memory card, but extra storage is hugely useful for music,
> videos and photos.
>
> Tablets that let you insert a memory card include the Samsung Galaxy Tab
> 3, Microsoft Surface RT and Sony Xperia Tablet Z.
>
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/tablets-2/the-tablet-memory-mark-up-scandal/

The tablet memory mark-up scandal
by Rich Parris, Deputy Computing Editor
Tablets
20/11/2013

It costs tablet manufacturers such as Apple less than £6 to add an extra
16GB of tablet memory. But they’ll charge you as much as £80 for the
privilege.

Which? research has uncovered outrageous pricing mark-ups in the tablet
industry. If you buy a tablet with extra space for storing your apps and
files, you could pay up to £80 for a piece of extra storage that costs
manufacturers less than £6 at market prices.

Choose the best tablet for you - use our new interactive tool to choose the
best tablet
The true cost of tablet memory

There can be huge differences between tablet manufacturers in what they
choose to charge customers for extra storage space. If you step up from a
16GB model to a 32GB model, the difference can be anything from £40 to £80:

Most tablet manufacturers don’t produce their own Flash storage. Instead,
they buy it from third-party component manufacturers. Although individual
deals between suppliers and manufacturers remain secret, Flash memory is a
traded commodity, and prices are tracked by market watchers such as
DRAMeXchange.

According to market prices of Flash memory tracked by DRAMeXchange from
August to October this year, the memory used in tablets costs on average
£5.95 for a block of 16GB of storage. For large companies buying in bulk,
the prices can be even lower. Apple uses a different Flash memory (MLC) to
its rivals, and this traded at an average price of £5.85 for 16GB in
October.

Yet despite these paltry market costs, Apple charges its customers £80 more
for its 32GB iPad than for its 16GB model. That’s a profitable mark-up of
at least 1,267%, based on the market price of £5.85.

Apple charges a premium that’s far above what most of its rivals add on for
an extra 16GB of storage space. Amazon, for example, charges £40 more for a
32GB Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, compared to the 16GB model. Google adds a
sizeable £70 if you opt for a 32GB Nexus 10 rather than a 16GB model.
Insider verdict: ‘scandalous’

These shocking figures are backed up by industry insiders who buy blocks of
storage from the same supply chains used by tablet manufacturers.

Chillbast is a UK-based computer manufacturer specialising in high-end
machines. It buys its Flash memory from some of the same suppliers who make
the Flash storage components found in tablets. ‘16GB of Flash memory is
mind-numbingly cheap now,’ says Chillblast’s Ben Miles. ‘As a general rule,
for manufacturers like ourselves, Flash costs less than 40p per GB, so for
companies to charge so much for an extra 16GB seems scandalous.’

And it seems there are few additional manufacturing overheads created by
the addition of extra storage. ‘The difference in cost between
manufacturing a product with 16GB and 32GB of memory would probably equate
to less than $10,’ says Miles.
How to beat the tablet memory mark-up

Although tablet storage may be limited, there are alternative ways of
boosting your storage space without paying for a pricier model. You can
keep your digital files safe and accessible using cloud storage service
such as Dropbox, Google Drive, SkyDrive or iTunes Match.

Some tablets have a card slot to let you insert an SD or microSD card.
These can provide up to 64GB of additional storage for around £35 – much
cheaper than buying extra internal storage. Most tablets won’t let you
store apps on a memory card, but extra storage is hugely useful for music,
videos and photos.

Tablets that let you insert a memory card include the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3,
Microsoft Surface RT and Sony Xperia Tablet Z.

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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2013/nov/tablet-price.cfm
On Mar 2, 2014 4:24 PM, "Yoshwar S"  wrote:

> Karena internal storage gak diperjual belikan seperti micro sd, mending
> liatnya gini...
>
> Setiap kenaikan internal storage dari 16GB ke 32GB, harga jual device
> umumnya naik sekitar $100. Dari 32GB ke 64GB pun sekitar $100.
> Jadi kalo seperti maunya oom Eko, tiap vendor langsung keluarin minimal
> 64GB, siap2 aja bayar sekitar $200 lebih mahal dari harga device 16GB.
>
> Sementara harga micro sd 32GB saat ini paling cuma 200rb. 64Gb cuma di
> kisaran 400-500rb.
>
> Beda jauh kan?
>
> Salam,
> Yoshwar
>
>
> 2014-03-02 12:12 GMT+03:00 Eko Prasetiyo :
>
>> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
>> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>>  On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>>
>>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> SM-N900
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>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>>> To: id-android 
>>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>>
>>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin
>>> pke internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong
>>> OS & apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat
>>> user space cm 4 - 5 gb
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>>
>>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>>
>>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>>
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Yoshwar S
Karena internal storage gak diperjual belikan seperti micro sd, mending
liatnya gini...

Setiap kenaikan internal storage dari 16GB ke 32GB, harga jual device
umumnya naik sekitar $100. Dari 32GB ke 64GB pun sekitar $100.
Jadi kalo seperti maunya oom Eko, tiap vendor langsung keluarin minimal
64GB, siap2 aja bayar sekitar $200 lebih mahal dari harga device 16GB.

Sementara harga micro sd 32GB saat ini paling cuma 200rb. 64Gb cuma di
kisaran 400-500rb.

Beda jauh kan?

Salam,
Yoshwar


2014-03-02 12:12 GMT+03:00 Eko Prasetiyo :

> Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
> dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
>  On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:
>
>> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>>
>> ---
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
>> To: id-android 
>> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
>> Kompas.com Tekno
>>
>> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
>> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
>> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
>> space cm 4 - 5 gb
>> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>>
>>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>>
>>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>>
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-02 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
Nah ini saya penasaran. Harga internal emmc kapasitas katakan 32gb
dibanding microsd 32gb brpa masing2 harganya?
On Mar 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "Andre Tampubolon"  wrote:

> Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om?
>
> ---
> SM-N900
> GPG public key:
> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC6492E7D01AA96CF
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eko Prasetiyo 
> To: id-android 
> Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD -
> Kompas.com Tekno
>
> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
> space cm 4 - 5 gb
> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>
>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>
>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>
>> --
>> ==
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
>> 
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-01 Terurut Topik Darma Suyoga
Android ini ada banyak pilihan...

Google mengarahkan ke internal memory ( demi kualitas )

Akan ada pilihan bisa dipindah ke microsd ( demi lebih murah & praktis)
lewat custom ROM :P

darma78 @ARHD_One
On Mar 2, 2014 2:04 PM, "JUNAIDI"  wrote:

> Jadi ga beda donk dgn ios.
> Cari HP harus Internal storage nya besar.
> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>
>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>
>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>
>> --
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-01 Terurut Topik JUNAIDI
Jadi ga beda donk dgn ios.
Cari HP harus Internal storage nya besar.
On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:

>
> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>
> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo
> gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>
> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>
> --
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-01 Terurut Topik Andre Tampubolon
Konsekuensinya harga HP makin mahal dong om? 

---
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-Original Message-
From: Eko Prasetiyo 
To: id-android 
Sent: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com 
Tekno

Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
space cm 4 - 5 gb
On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:

>
> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>
> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo
> gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>
> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>
> --
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-01 Terurut Topik Indra Kusuma
Mang dah ga bisa lagi yach? Waduh makin mepet dunk kalo ROM kecil
On Mar 2, 2014 11:51 AM, "Eko Prasetiyo"  wrote:

> Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
> internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
> apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
> space cm 4 - 5 gb
> On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>>
>> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage.
>> Klo gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>>
>> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>>
>> --
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Re: [id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-01 Terurut Topik Eko Prasetiyo
Salaaahh.. ini hrsnya protes ke vendor handset. Knp ga bisa bikin pke
internal storage min 64gb pure buat user. Artinya 64gb itu ga dipotong OS &
apps. Paketin 16gb internal 8gb lebih buat os doang. Paling2 net buat user
space cm 4 - 5 gb
On Mar 2, 2014 11:13 AM, "syafiq shahab"  wrote:

>
> http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD
>
> Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo
> gini koneksi inet harus kencang
>
> Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))
>
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A
> 
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> Join Forum ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
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ID-Android on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A 

Aturan Umum  ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB

Join Forum   ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
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[id-android] Android KitKat Batasi Pemakaian Micro-SD - Kompas.com Tekno

2014-03-01 Terurut Topik syafiq shahab
http://tekno.kompas.com/read/2014/02/27/1700255/Android.KitKat.Batasi.Pemakaian.Micro-SD

Waduh ternyata bukan bug nih. Tanda2 sudah dipaksa pake cloud storage. Klo
gini koneksi inet harus kencang

Cc om tif, nih lho pak guna internet kenceng :))

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A 

Aturan Umum  ID-ANDROID >> http://goo.gl/NfzSGB

Join Forum   ID-ANDROID >> http://forum.android.or.id
==
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Android Community " dari Grup Google.
Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, kirim 
email ke id-android+berhenti berlangga...@googlegroups.com .
Kunjungi grup ini di http://groups.google.com/group/id-android.