Re: IANA Considerations

2005-07-08 Thread C. M. Heard
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
 RFC 2434 doesn't discuss null IANA sections at all.

Right.  The requirement for null IANA Considerations sections first
appeared in the May 2004 version of http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html,
without prior notice to the community.

 RFC2434bis does discuss them, and we will need to form consensus
 about whether the RFC Editor is required to retain them, as we
 discuss RFC2434bis. Which we need to do fairly soon.

In what venue will this discussion take place?  While I can
understand the value (to the IANA) of a null IANA Considerations
section in an Internet Draft, I'm strongly opposed to having them
appear in published documents.

Mike Heard


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A word about the plenaries in Paris

2005-07-08 Thread Brian E Carpenter

We're just putting together the agendas for the plenary sessions
in Paris. They will be Wednesday and Thursday at new timings:
17:30 through 20:00, before dinner, to match Paris restaurant hours.

Wednesday will focus on IETF operations, administration and process
(led by me as IETF Chair). Thursday will focus on technical issues
(led by Leslie Daigle, IAB Chair). We have lots of material for
both days.

We're going to try something slightly different for the open mike
sessions. Both plenaries will have the final hour reserved for
a town hall meeting. Rather than putting a row of IESG or IAB
people up on a stage, we want to aim at a less confrontational
style of discussion. We'll work out the details when we see the
room layout. Meanwhile (and in Leslie's absence on vacation),
I'd like to ask people to think about possible high level topics
for those two town hall meetings: ops/admin/process topics for
Wednesday and technical topics for Thursday.

  Brian Carpenter
  IETF Chair


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When to DISCUSS?

2005-07-08 Thread Brian E Carpenter

As most RFC authors know, when an IESG member identifies a problem in
a draft under IESG review, he or she casts a DISCUSS ballot, with
accompanying text, and the DISCUSS has to be cleared before the
document can advance.

draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt talks about this. Even within the
IESG, we still have one or two points to resolve, but we wanted to get
this out before the cutoff date. This isn't in any way intended to change
any of the principles of the standards process, but we'd welcome
community comment.

   Brian

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Internet Engineering Steering Group Working 
Group of the IETF.

Title   : DISCUSS Criteria in IESG Review
Author(s)   : J. Peterson, et al.
Filename: draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt
Pages   : 10
Date: 2005-7-7

   This document describes the role of the 'DISCUSS' position in the
   IESG review process.  It gives some guidance on when a DISCUSS should
   and should not be issued.  It also discusses procedures for DISCUSS
   resolution.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt



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On role conflict

2005-07-08 Thread Brian E Carpenter

This is a somewhat personal note, expanding on something I hinted
at in plenary in Minneapolis.

The person appointed as IETF Chair actually gets three jobs today:

IETF Chair
IESG Chair
General Area Director

The IETF Chair is clearly responsible to the IETF as a whole.
A fairly large amount of this role is, under BCP 101, in the
process of being handed over to the IASA and the IAD in particular.
But there remains a major role of listening to the IETF, trying
to form consensus on IETF-wide issues, and trying to carry that
consensus forward into action.

The IESG Chair is of course responsible to the IETF too, but
the role is different: the IESG Chair must form IESG consensus, drive
the standards process, and respresent IESG decisions collegially.

The General AD has the usual AD responsibilities, but with
the peculiarity that General Area documents tend to be ones that change
the IETF process itself - potentially including the above two roles
and the IESG's role.

If you put yourself hypothetically in those three roles, you will easily
see that there is potential for role conflict, especially if the community
wants A and the IESG wants B.

This isn't a complaint - but I think, in view of some of the
recent list discussions, that people need to understand very
clearly that this potential role conflict is built into our present
way of doing things.

Speaking personally, I believe that in the end, the community wins;
but when I speak for the IESG, you can expect me to represent the
collegial view of the IESG. When the community reaches a clear view
on something, which is frankly much harder to judge, I'll represent
that.

   Brian-Three-Hats




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Re: RFC 2434 term IESG approval

2005-07-08 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:C. M. Heard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  | Would it be unreasonable to ask that you point to some text in the
  | document to support your claim?  Or lacking that, to point to some
  | publically archived discussion (e.g. last call comments) that
  | support your position?

My memory isn't good enough for last call comments, certainly not 7 years
ago.  I actually doubt that there were many, 2434 as it stands isn't
something that would have evoked much controversy I suspect.

The relevant part is from section 2, basicly all of page 5 of the doc.
The section that starts The following are example policies... and goes to
the end of section 2 (into page 6) - though the last paragraph of
section 2 isn't really material (that just says about being able to
have some parts of a name space assigned under one policy and other
parts under a different one - which 2780 does not do for IPv6 options).

All that text in 2434 is just 'examples' but becomes normative when
incorporated by reference in another rfc (like 2780) which is quite
common.

Read the examples (which have turned into the de-facto policy choice
list) to see the text in question.

Every one of the 'examples' is about what documentation is required.
This is no surprise - what's being done is to give working groups
example policies that show what is reasonable to give as a policy to
IANA in order to register a name in one of the registries.

The range from nothing at all (not even any registry, just self
assignment) at the begining to the existance of a standards track
RFC at the high end.   I suspect that many people are getting
confused by the process necessary to get a standards track RFC,
and assuming that all of the review that happens there is relevant.
It is, but only to the process of defining the protocol, IANA does
not need to care about any of that - for IANA, the simple existence
of a standards track RFC that calls for (or assigns) a name from
a registry is enough for a Standards Action 'example' registry.

Everything between is about documentation requirements, just read
them ...

Anyone can obtain an assigned number, so
 long as they provide a point of contact and a brief
 description ...

Values and their meaning must be
 documented in an RFC or other permanent ...

New assignments must be approved by the IESG, but
 there is no requirement that the request be documented in an
 RFC (though the IESG has discretion to request documents or
 other supporting materials ...

...new assignments are made via RFCs approved by the IESG

Values are assigned only for Standards Track RFCs ...

They're all centred around the documentation that needs to be available
(or does not need to be available).   There isn't one word about any
other criteria for IANA to use (or anyone else to use) when deciding
on assignments.   Nothing about refusing assignments from blue haired
Klingons on alternate Thursdays, or anything else like that.   True,
it doesn't explicitly say that hair colour of the applicant cannot be
considered, as it doesn't say that lots of other things cannot be
considered - but nor does it need to.

There's no question but that a WG could, if it wanted, impose any
kind of bizarre requirements (there is no requirement to stick to the
list of example assignment policies), but to do so it would have to
justify what it wants when asked during last call, and anything
peculiar (such as: only to protocols that we approve of) would
likely get considerable pushback.

The bulk of the doc is advice to working groups about which policies
might be useful under what circumstances, and some requirements that
WG's must handle in order to get IANA to create a registry and
perform parameter assignment.   That's all relevant when a WG is
creating a new registry (or modifying one) and not relevant at all
right now.

kre

ps: I believe this is my last word on this topic.   It has gone on
long enough.   I have no idea what is currently happening with the
request for this particular option, but I certainly hope that an
IAB appeal is under way (as the IESG have quite clearly refused to
reconsider their position, I would take it that that part of the 2026
requirememts of the appeal process is now well and truly satisfied).

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Re: When to DISCUSS?

2005-07-08 Thread Scott Bradner

re draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt

I think this is a very helpful document - if followed by the IESG it
should reduce the number of what appears to be blocking actions
by ADs 

but I did not see any enforcement mechanism - i.e. if an AD enters a 
DISCUSS over a section 3.2 reason how does the IESG tell that AD
to back off?  It seems like the alternate voting process is
not needed to have the IESG look at a DISCUSS comments and reach
a consensus that it is not (or is) a legit DISCUSS area

maybe somthing like a 'review of comment' process that gets 
kicked off by another AD or a WG chair after an AD files their
DISCUSS comment.  The process just involving a requirement for all
ADs to review the comment in question and discuss the issue on
the next IESG call ending in a vote - if there is not majority 
support that the comment is a blocking type then the DISCUSS is
changed to a non-blocking comment

Scott

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Re: When to DISCUSS?

2005-07-08 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin

At 11:22 08/07/2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

As most RFC authors know, when an IESG member identifies a problem in
a draft under IESG review, he or she casts a DISCUSS ballot, with
accompanying text, and the DISCUSS has to be cleared before the
document can advance.

draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt talks about this. Even within the
IESG, we still have one or two points to resolve, but we wanted to get
this out before the cutoff date. This isn't in any way intended to change
any of the principles of the standards process, but we'd welcome
community comment.


I have a problem  It concerns the need of non IESG DISCUSS by concerned 
authoritative entities whose personal opposition may block the adhesion of 
the Internet community to the RFC. I will illustrate with the IANA aspects.


When a RFC calls for a IANA Registry management, the IANA under RFC 2860 
should comply with it. We however have a grey area which concerns the 
applications involving for example ISO 3166 (country codes), ISO 639 
(languages), ISO 11179 (Registires), etc. I name some which are in the 
current debate today. But it is likely that the convergence, the universal 
development of the Internet, etc. will lead to such situations where an 
IETF defined registry using external standards leads to correlations 
opposed by those who accepted the standard.


This problem is obviously a ransom of the Internet success, but it is a key 
problem for the Internet and IETF integration.


I have no specific solution here, but I say two things:

1. the joint committes and liaisons with other SDOs should have the 
possibility to rise a DISCUSS flag


2. the IANA should not be forced to accept the management of a Directory 
without the issue being agreed with all the concerned parties. The major 
evolution of the Internet we face is the distribution of the IANA functions 
(USA initiated a move I work on for four years). It is of the utmost 
importance that we avoid an alt-root situation here, all the more than 
the first partners will most probably include Governements and the next 
ones concerned cultures. It is therefore of the essence that the conference 
of the distributed National/Regional/Local/Corporate/Private Centers of 
References, whatever it may be built as, has the capacity to DISCUSS a 
Registry specified in an RFC and prevent its parameter polution by 
disagreeing Reference Centres Managers.


This is particularly true for the Registries where the ISO standards above 
are considered (ISO 3166 is the most widely used ISO table and is clearly 
identified in the Internet to ccTLDs for national communities and to GAC 
for Governments, ISO 639 series identifies languages, what means commonly 
cultures [English speaking people and young cultures use to attach more 
their culture to Nations, Religions, etc.]).


I know some will object that this is not the way the Internet is specified. 
Or that this is not the way it should work. Or this is L8/L9 concerns out 
of IETF/IESG scope. The same as some said and may be continue to say that 
for the root. This will not change that this is the way the root works 
today and this is the way the IANA starts being considered today.


Establishing rules taking reality into account, will only permit to smooth 
the transition from a mono-default to a multi-enacted parametered internet. 
The Internet partitionning (legacy, regalian, national, cultural, 
proximity, trade, kids, private, etc.) is a necessity: the USA just 
affirmed it for their own account; I identified and documented it here 
nearly two years ago. We have now to progressively acknowledge it and build 
the procedures and projects which will help making it a concerted 
compartmentalisation rather than to close our eyes on the wild 
balkanisation now engaged.


jfc






   Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.is draft is a work item of the Internet Engineering Steering 
Group Working Group of the IETF.

Title   : DISCUSS Criteria in IESG Review
Author(s)   : J. Peterson, et al.
Filename: draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt
Pages   : 10
Date: 2005-7-7

   This document describes the role of the 'DISCUSS' position in the
   IESG review process.  It gives some guidance on when a DISCUSS should
   and should not be issued.  It also discusses procedures for DISCUSS
   resolution.
A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt



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RE: What's the value of specification consistency?

2005-07-08 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip

 Note that this is not purely hypothetical; I asked the same 
 question of the IESG in a comment on draft-ietf-pkix-pkixrep-03.txt:
 
 For draft-ietf-impp-srv-04, we required an IANA maintained registry 
 that allowed someone to map _im._bip to a specification of how _bip 
 used SRV records.  Seems very similar, in that PKIXREP will actually 
 map to different using protocols like OCSP, LDAP, or HTTP; 
 these aren't 
 just transports, like tcp or udp, they have different syntax (and 
 frankly the use of HTTP for this means a convention at a 
 level even SRV 
 can't handle).

In that particular case the consistency was utterly irrelevant.

XKMS already defines SRV prefixes that are not IANA registered at all.
 
If you make it too difficult for people to get code points registered
they are simply going to define them themselves.





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Re: Internationalization, IPR (was IANA Considerations)

2005-07-08 Thread Bruce Lilly
  Date: 2005-07-08 01:08
  From: Frank Ellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bruce Lilly wrote:
  
  BCP 18 (RFC 2277, Frank) recommends an internationalization
  considerations section
 
 Oh, that beast, a MUST UTF-8, not less.  Didn't make it into
 RfC 3912, can I declare it broken by design and return to
 RfC 954, please ?

Not now.  Within two months of the public announcement of the decision,
(BCP 9, a.k.a. RFC 2029, section 6.5.4) you could have initiated an
appeal or a discussion with the IETF Chair if you felt that there was
some sort of process failure and if you thought such an approach would
be productive.  At this late date, you can of course still send
comments to the author.

 While we're at it, did you see draft-hoffman-utf8-rfcs-00.txt ?

I saw it, downloaded it, glanced through it.  Not surprising to me,
since some time ago (IIRC during review of the I-D Checklist here)
I briefly mentioned the ASCII-only rule and explicitly deferred
discussion of that to those who are most directly affected, e.g.
authors whose names contain non-ASCII characters (I didn't wish
to open that particular can of worms at that particular time).

  If the IETF feels that internationalization is an important
  issue, a similar guideline prompting authors/editors to
  include, and reviewers to review such a section might be
  worth adding.
 
 Maybe.  OTOH it wouldn't be polite to write SMTP error texts
 are i-default US-ASCII, stupid, so that's what you put in an
 SPF exp= explanation, for more I18N you could use a http URL.

It also wouldn't be of much interest, as SMTP requires protocol
actions based solely on the reply code (first digit), and the text
must not be used as the basis for action (with a notable
pseudo-exception, where the text is a public name rather than
text in the BCP 18 (RFC 2277) sense).  There might, however, be
cause to examine the SMTP protocol in terms of providing a BCP 18
conforming mechanism for tagging the text charset and language, and
for provision for charsets other than US-ASCII (considering the
application, adoption of the BCP 18 conforming mechanism specified
in RFC 2047 as amended by RFC 2231 and errata might be a good
choice).
 
 The IPR boilerplate makes me mad, but unfortunately the authors
 of xml2rfc didn't adopt my ipr=fullmeep or ipr=fulleula
 proposals.  Insert four-letter word for meep.  At most three
 lines pointing to a creative commons BY SA license should be
 good enough for most I-Ds.

Ah, but you misunderstand the purpose of legal boilerplate -- it
isn't supposed to make sense, it's supposed to confound common
sense (see Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels), and to provide
full employment for lawyers (which may explain why it always seems
to be in need of revision) .-, (- that's half a smiley :-)).  If
you look at the IPR boilerplate in those terms, it's fulfilling its
purposes (HE/SHE applied to all-male or all-female authors,
reference to this standard for mere drafts and all RFCS (Not All
RFCs are Standards hasn't been rescinded AFAIK), etc.).

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RE: When to DISCUSS?

2005-07-08 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
 draft-iesg-discuss-criteria-00.txt talks about this. Even 
 within the IESG, we still have one or two points to resolve, 
 but we wanted to get this out before the cutoff date. This 
 isn't in any way intended to change any of the principles of 
 the standards process, but we'd welcome community comment.

This is actually quite good. In particular I think that it does go a
long way in returning to the original concept of the IETF rather than
what it had been turning into.

There is however one area that should be made very explicit as a non
issue for DISCUSS, failure to employ a specific technology platform.

I have been concerned on a number of occasions where it has appeared
that in order to get a specification approved by the IESG it would be
necessary to adopt a particular technology being promoted by IESG
members. This issue is not unique to the IETF, at one point there was a
major issue in W3C when some members suspected that Semantic Web would
be imposed in this manner. I believe that a similar dynamic played a
major role in causing OSI to become what it became.


There are some cases where this is a good idea, it is clearly important
that every IETF standard protocol is capable of making the transition to
IPv6. But there are other cases where this really comes down to second
guessing the WG or worst of all promoting a pet project.

For example when I submit a draft proposing a prefix for use with SRV I
do not expect to have to explain my reasons for using a technology that
is widely supported by existing infrastructure over NAPTR, a technology
which is only partially supported, has yet to gain a major constituency
of users and may well end up being superceeded before it is widely
adopted.


Now some might say that the role of the IESG should be precisely to do
this sort of thing, to encourage the adoption of technology that
deserves to be employed as a technology base. I disagree because this
leads working groups to think that its not their job to promote their
work product and drive its adoption, they can simply rely on the IESG to
do their work for them by forcing other groups who have killer
applications to do the heavy lifting for them.

I spend a great deal of time working out how to get a protocol adopted,
how to build the necessary coalitions of support to drive deployment. If
I have a choice of technology platforms I am not going to necessarily
pic the one that is the newest, brightest and shinyest. In the first
place I have been caught out in the past several times following that
route and finding that my spec is the only system built on the new
platform. But more importantly the more infrastructure innovations a
proposal requires the harder it is to build a coalition and the harder
it is to keep it together.


The most worrying version of this approach is when a group is told that
in order to gain approval of the IESG it MUST take a particular
technical approach. This is why I would like a very concrete statement
in the DISCUSS document saying that a WG is free to choose an approach
that uses deployed technology over another proposal without market
traction.

I know of two cases where a group has been essentially forced to
significantly compromise their design in order to support BEEP. At this
point it should be clear to anyone who follows the Web Services area
that there is universal agreement amongst vendors and developers that
the SOAP stack is the only one that will be used. This outcome has been
clear to anyone who has followed this area for at least four years. 

I watched the SACRED group being bullied into adopting BEEP as a
substrate. This makes even less sense when you know that SACRED was
intended to be a compliment to XKMS which is defined to be a Web Service
running over SOAP. The only argument I saw made at the meeting was that
the IESG would expect BEEP to be supported so the WG better get in line.


There is at this point a huge difference in the capabilities of BEEP and
the capabilities of Web Services based on the SOAP, WSDL etc. It is a
major imposition on a working group to require them to support BEEP
because it then forces the group to re-invent the work that has gone
into WS-Security. Developers are then required to implement the DIY
security infrastructure developed by the group rather than use the
existing libraries in the Web Services development environments.

It would be much easier for me to get INCH/RID adopted as an incident
notification protocol in the anti-phishing world in its original Web
Services compliant form than in the current incarnation that was imposed
on the group by an area director. If I am talking to Microsoft, IBM, Sun
or any bank that uses their technology it is much easier to get them to
buy into a protocol that they can build in an afternoon using standard
toolkits than something that will require bespoke work.


In summary, the DISCUSS draft is header in the right direction and the
above is implicit in its text but it should be made 

RFC 4068 on Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6

2005-07-08 Thread rfc-editor

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RFC 4068

Title:  Fast Handovers for Mobile IPv6
Author(s):  R. Koodli, Ed.
Status: Experimental
Date:   July 2005
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I-D Tag:draft-ietf-mipshop-fast-mipv6-03.txt

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Mobile IPv6 enables a Mobile Node to maintain its connectivity to the
Internet when moving from one Access Router to another, a process
referred to as handover.  During handover, there is a period during
which the Mobile Node is unable to send or receive packets because of
link switching delay and IP protocol operations.  This handover
latency resulting from standard Mobile IPv6 procedures, namely
movement detection, new Care of Address configuration, and Binding
Update, is often unacceptable to real-time traffic such as Voice over
IP.  Reducing the handover latency could be beneficial to
non-real-time, throughput-sensitive applications as well.  This
document specifies a protocol to improve handover latency due to
Mobile IPv6 procedures.  This document does not address improving the
link switching latency.

This document is a product of the MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff
Optimization Working Group of the IETF.

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RFC 4065 on Instructions for Seamoby and Experimental Mobility Protocol IANA Allocations

2005-07-08 Thread rfc-editor

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RFC 4065

Title:  Instructions for Seamoby and
Experimental Mobility Protocol IANA Allocations
Author(s):  J. Kempf
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The Seamoby Candidate Access Router Discovery (CARD) protocol and the
Context Transfer Protocol (CXTP) are experimental protocols designed
to accelerate IP handover between wireless access routers.  These 
protocols require IANA allocations for ICMP type and options, Stream
Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Payload Protocol Identifiers,
port numbers, and registries for certain formatted message options.
This document contains instructions to IANA about which allocations
are required for the Seamoby protocols.  The ICMP subtype extension
format for Seamoby has been additionally designed so that it can be
utilized by other experimental mobility protocols, and the SCTP port
number is also available for other experimental mobility protocols.  

This document is a product of the Context Transfer and Handoff
Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting Working Group of
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RFC 4067 on Context Transfer Protocol (CXTP)

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RFC 4067

Title:  Context Transfer Protocol (CXTP)
Author(s):  J. Loughney, Ed., M. Nakhjiri, C. Perkins,
R. Koodli
Status: Experimental
Date:   July 2005
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This document presents the Context Transfer Protocol (CXTP) that
enables authorized context transfers.  Context transfers allow better
support for node based mobility so that the applications running on
mobile nodes can operate with minimal disruption.  Key objectives are
to reduce latency and packet losses, and to avoid the re-initiation of
signaling to and from the mobile node.

This document is a product of the Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate
Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting Working Group of the IETF.

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RFC 4066 on Candidate Access Router Discovery (CARD)

2005-07-08 Thread rfc-editor

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RFC 4066

Title:  Candidate Access Router Discovery (CARD)
Author(s):  M. Liebsch, Ed., A. Singh, Ed., H. Chaskar,
D. Funato, E. Shim
Status: Experimental
Date:   July 2005
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To enable seamless IP-layer handover of a mobile node (MN) from one
access router (AR) to another, the MN is required to discover the
identities and capabilities of candidate ARs (CARs) for handover
prior to the initiation of the handover.  The act of discovery of CARs
has two aspects: identifying the IP addresses of the CARs and finding
their capabilities.  This process is called candidate access router
discovery (CARD).  At the time of IP-layer handover, the CAR, whose
capabilities are a good match to the preferences of the MN, is chosen
as the target AR for handover.  The protocol described in this
document allows a mobile node to perform CARD.

This document is a product of the Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate
Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting Working Group of the IETF.

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