Re: Venue requirements - canoe?

2006-03-20 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
We clearly need to tell the Routing Area to work on better flooding
algorithms.

--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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RE: Venue requirements - canoe?

2006-03-20 Thread Gray, Eric
Sounds to me like this comes under the Transport Area - at least
as far as flooding control is concerned.  Avoidance of flooded
paths, on the other hand, might be a routing Area problem.

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--> We clearly need to tell the Routing Area to work on better flooding
--> algorithms.
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--> --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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Re: Venue requirements - canoe?

2006-03-20 Thread Eliot Lear
In case it wasn't intuitively obvious by the half submerged cars on the
access roads yesterday, driving through standing water is very
dangerous.  And so is wading through it.

Eliot

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Re: Venue requirements - canoe?

2006-03-20 Thread Michael Thomas

Sounds a lot more like a distributed denial of service attack
to me.

Mike

Gray, Eric wrote:

Sounds to me like this comes under the Transport Area - at least
as far as flooding control is concerned.  Avoidance of flooded
paths, on the other hand, might be a routing Area problem.

--> -Original Message-
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--> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:09 AM

--> To: Tim Chown
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--> Subject: Re: Venue requirements - canoe?
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--> We clearly need to tell the Routing Area to work on better flooding

--> algorithms.
--> 
--> 		--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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RE: Venue requirements - canoe?

2006-03-20 Thread john . loughney
Transport over flooded routes. Sounds like a plenary topic to me.
John

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Subject:RE: Venue requirements - canoe?
From:   "Gray, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   03/20/2006 4:14 pm

Sounds to me like this comes under the Transport Area - at least
as far as flooding control is concerned.  Avoidance of flooded
paths, on the other hand, might be a routing Area problem.

--> -Original Message-
--> From: Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
--> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:09 AM
--> To: Tim Chown
--> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
--> Subject: Re: Venue requirements - canoe?
--> 
--> We clearly need to tell the Routing Area to work on better flooding
--> algorithms.
--> 
--> --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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Re: Venue requirements - canoe?

2006-03-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Send text, please ;-)

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Tim Chown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fecha: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:05:45 +
> Para: "ietf@ietf.org" 
> Asunto: Venue requirements - canoe?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I guess some people not in Dallas may have missed the news of the freak
> local flooding here.
> 
> I was downtown with three colleagues and tried to come back to the hotel
> around 5.30pm Sunday and hit the huge traffic jam.  Our taxi couldn't cross
> the freeway to the hotel side because the police had blocked the flooded
> turnoffs, and we had no intention of running across the freeway (never
> was good at Frogger) so we ended up staying overnight at a motel 5 miles
> up the freeway.
> 
> The freeway was largely clear, but was underwater in places, but looking
> to the side roads we could see cars almost completely submerged (and
> probably couldn't see some that were).
> 
> When we'd left the hotel at 1pm or so the heavy rain was very heavy,
> and we got pretty wet just running 10 yards from the cab to the restaurant,
> but never had any idea of what was to follow.
> 
> Some pictures from www.dallasnews.com:
> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/pt/slideshows/2006/03/0319weather/
> 
> The forecast is better for the rest of the week, thankfully.
> 
> -- 
> Tim/::1
> 
> 
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