Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
...and send you bug reports every day? :(( A. -Original Message- From: Ravel, Bruce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis On Friday 09 November 2007 12:26:33 Anatoly Frenkel wrote: > I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked You should consider updating. ;-) B -- Bruce Ravel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Institute of Standards and Technology Building 535A, Room M7 c/o Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton NY, 11973, USA My homepage:http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/ ___ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
On Friday 09 November 2007 12:26:33 Anatoly Frenkel wrote: > I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked You should consider updating. ;-) B -- Bruce Ravel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Institute of Standards and Technology Building 535A, Room M7 c/o Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton NY, 11973, USA My homepage:http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/ ___ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
On Friday 09 November 2007 12:13:01 Richard Mayes wrote: > Oops! Forgot the attachments. Sorry about that. > > I should also add, the file I'm trying to import into Artemis is > "k_3.191_13.860". Richard, I don't think there is a problem. Athena stores the un-k-weighted data internally and applies the k-weight when you request a plot in k or R space. Similarly, Artemis imports the un-k-weighted data from the Athena project file. When Artemis plots the data in k or R space, the k-weighting selected in those little radio buttons in the upper right hand corner of the Artemis window, just beneath the label that says "Plotting options". If you click on the "3" button, then k^3 weighted data is plotted. I am looking at k^3 weighted plots of your data from Athena and Artemis as I write this. I don't see a difference. I suspect that you are just being surprised by the details of how Artemis decides what to plot. See page 8 of this document: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/talks/artemis.methyltin.pdf Or am I not understanding your problem? B > -Richard > > > Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption! I'm currently working > > on writing a short summary for our group based on the information > > everyone shared. > > > > Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into Artemis > > from Athena. (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug > > report and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.) > > > > The problem: I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into Artemis, > > but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead. I don't > > know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but the > > k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the fit > > k-weight as well. Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing > > this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is an > > issue only on my computer). I tried changing the group name and deleting > > all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still occurs. > > > > Any ideas on how to get around this? > > > > FYI: I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop (1.7 > > GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro. > > > > Thanks!! > > -Richard > > > > -- > > Richard Mayes > > > > Barnes Group > > 450/452 Buehler Hall > > Department of Chemistry > > University of Tennessee > > Knoxville, TN 37996 -- Bruce Ravel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Institute of Standards and Technology Building 535A, Room M7 c/o Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton NY, 11973, USA My homepage:http://xafs.org/BruceRavel EXAFS software: http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/software/exafs/ ___ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
DO'OH! Thanks Anatoly! I must be blind. I totally missed that. -Richard > Richard, > > I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked (the data were > ported correctly). I do not think it is version dependent. > > The data that you save in Athena are ported to Artemis with 0 > k-weighting, so you have to manually set your k-weighting in artemis if > you want to match the same k-weighting that you liked in athena. As you > know, there is k-weighting for FT and k-weigthting for plotting data in > k-space, which have nothing to do with each other. > > Note that the vertical axis in the bottom figure of your PDF file has > unit of A^-3 which means it was indeed k2-weighting in FT in Artemis. > You just have to make it k3 weighting in FT and it will give you the > same plot as the top figure (and the unit will be A^-4). > > Anatoly > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard > Mayes > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:13 PM > To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis > > > > Oops! Forgot the attachments. Sorry about that. > > I should also add, the file I'm trying to import into Artemis is > "k_3.191_13.860". > > -Richard > > >> Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption! I'm currently > working >> on writing a short summary for our group based on the information > everyone >> shared. >> >> Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into > Artemis >> from Athena. (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug > report >> and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.) >> >> The problem: I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into > Artemis, >> but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead. I > don't >> know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but > the >> k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the > fit >> k-weight as well. Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing >> this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is > an >> issue only on my computer). I tried changing the group name and > deleting >> all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still > occurs. >> >> Any ideas on how to get around this? >> >> FYI: I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop > (1.7 >> GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro. >> >> Thanks!! >> -Richard >> >> -- >> Richard Mayes >> >> Barnes Group >> 450/452 Buehler Hall >> Department of Chemistry >> University of Tennessee >> Knoxville, TN 37996 >> > > > -- > Richard Mayes > > Barnes Group > 450/452 Buehler Hall > Department of Chemistry > University of Tennessee > Knoxville, TN 37996 > > > ___ > Ifeffit mailing list > Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov > http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit > -- Richard Mayes Barnes Group 450/452 Buehler Hall Department of Chemistry University of Tennessee Knoxville, TN 37996 ___ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
Richard, I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked (the data were ported correctly). I do not think it is version dependent. The data that you save in Athena are ported to Artemis with 0 k-weighting, so you have to manually set your k-weighting in artemis if you want to match the same k-weighting that you liked in athena. As you know, there is k-weighting for FT and k-weigthting for plotting data in k-space, which have nothing to do with each other. Note that the vertical axis in the bottom figure of your PDF file has unit of A^-3 which means it was indeed k2-weighting in FT in Artemis. You just have to make it k3 weighting in FT and it will give you the same plot as the top figure (and the unit will be A^-4). Anatoly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Mayes Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:13 PM To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis Oops! Forgot the attachments. Sorry about that. I should also add, the file I'm trying to import into Artemis is "k_3.191_13.860". -Richard > Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption! I'm currently working > on writing a short summary for our group based on the information everyone > shared. > > Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into Artemis > from Athena. (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug report > and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.) > > The problem: I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into Artemis, > but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead. I don't > know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but the > k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the fit > k-weight as well. Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing > this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is an > issue only on my computer). I tried changing the group name and deleting > all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still occurs. > > Any ideas on how to get around this? > > FYI: I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop (1.7 > GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro. > > Thanks!! > -Richard > > -- > Richard Mayes > > Barnes Group > 450/452 Buehler Hall > Department of Chemistry > University of Tennessee > Knoxville, TN 37996 > -- Richard Mayes Barnes Group 450/452 Buehler Hall Department of Chemistry University of Tennessee Knoxville, TN 37996 ___ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit
[Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption! I'm currently working on writing a short summary for our group based on the information everyone shared. Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into Artemis from Athena. (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug report and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.) The problem: I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into Artemis, but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead. I don't know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but the k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the fit k-weight as well. Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is an issue only on my computer). I tried changing the group name and deleting all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still occurs. Any ideas on how to get around this? FYI: I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop (1.7 GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro. Thanks!! -Richard -- Richard Mayes Barnes Group 450/452 Buehler Hall Department of Chemistry University of Tennessee Knoxville, TN 37996 ___ Ifeffit mailing list Ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov http://millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov/mailman/listinfo/ifeffit