Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis

2007-11-09 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
...and send you bug reports every day? :((
A.
 

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On Friday 09 November 2007 12:26:33 Anatoly Frenkel wrote:
> I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked

You should consider updating.  ;-)

B


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Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis

2007-11-09 Thread Bruce Ravel
On Friday 09 November 2007 12:26:33 Anatoly Frenkel wrote:
> I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked

You should consider updating.  ;-)

B


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Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis

2007-11-09 Thread Bruce Ravel
On Friday 09 November 2007 12:13:01 Richard Mayes wrote:
> Oops!  Forgot the attachments.  Sorry about that.
>
> I should also add, the file I'm trying to import into Artemis is
> "k_3.191_13.860".

Richard,

I don't think there is a problem.  Athena stores the un-k-weighted
data internally and applies the k-weight when you request a plot in k
or R space.  Similarly, Artemis imports the un-k-weighted data from
the Athena project file.  When Artemis plots the data in k or R space,
the k-weighting selected in those little radio buttons in the upper
right hand corner of the Artemis window, just beneath the label that
says "Plotting options".  If you click on the "3" button, then k^3
weighted data is plotted.

I am looking at k^3 weighted plots of your data from Athena and
Artemis as I write this.  I don't see a difference.  I suspect that
you are just being surprised by the details of how Artemis decides
what to plot.  See page 8 of this document:
   http://cars9.uchicago.edu/~ravel/talks/artemis.methyltin.pdf

Or am I not understanding your problem?
B



> -Richard
>
> > Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption!  I'm currently working
> > on writing a short summary for our group based on the information
> > everyone shared.
> >
> > Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into Artemis
> > from Athena.  (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug
> > report and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.)
> >
> > The problem:  I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into Artemis,
> > but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead.  I don't
> > know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but the
> > k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the fit
> > k-weight as well.  Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing
> > this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is an
> > issue only on my computer).  I tried changing the group name and deleting
> > all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still occurs.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to get around this?
> >
> > FYI:  I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop (1.7
> > GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> > -Richard
> >
> > --
> > Richard Mayes
> >
> > Barnes Group
> > 450/452 Buehler Hall
> > Department of Chemistry
> > University of Tennessee
> > Knoxville, TN 37996



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Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis

2007-11-09 Thread Richard Mayes
DO'OH!

Thanks Anatoly!  I must be blind.  I totally missed that.

-Richard


> Richard,
>
> I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked (the data were
> ported correctly). I do not think it is version dependent.
>
> The data that you save in Athena are ported to Artemis with 0
> k-weighting, so you have to manually set your k-weighting in artemis if
> you want to match the same k-weighting that you liked in athena. As you
> know, there is k-weighting for FT and k-weigthting for plotting data in
> k-space, which have nothing to do with each other.
>
> Note that the vertical axis in the bottom figure of your PDF file has
> unit of A^-3 which means it was indeed k2-weighting in FT in Artemis.
> You just have to make it k3 weighting in FT and it will give you the
> same plot as the top figure (and the unit will be A^-4).
>
> Anatoly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
> Mayes
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:13 PM
> To: ifeffit@millenia.cars.aps.anl.gov
> Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis
>
>
>
> Oops!  Forgot the attachments.  Sorry about that.
>
> I should also add, the file I'm trying to import into Artemis is
> "k_3.191_13.860".
>
> -Richard
>
>
>> Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption!  I'm currently
> working
>> on writing a short summary for our group based on the information
> everyone
>> shared.
>>
>> Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into
> Artemis
>> from Athena.  (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug
> report
>> and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.)
>>
>> The problem:  I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into
> Artemis,
>> but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead.  I
> don't
>> know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but
> the
>> k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the
> fit
>> k-weight as well.  Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing
>> this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is
> an
>> issue only on my computer).  I tried changing the group name and
> deleting
>> all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still
> occurs.
>>
>> Any ideas on how to get around this?
>>
>> FYI:  I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop
> (1.7
>> GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>> -Richard
>>
>> --
>> Richard Mayes
>>
>> Barnes Group
>> 450/452 Buehler Hall
>> Department of Chemistry
>> University of Tennessee
>> Knoxville, TN 37996
>>
>
>
> --
> Richard Mayes
>
> Barnes Group
> 450/452 Buehler Hall
> Department of Chemistry
> University of Tennessee
> Knoxville, TN 37996
>
>
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Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis

2007-11-09 Thread Anatoly Frenkel
Richard,
 
I tried with Athena v50 and Artemis v007 and it worked (the data were
ported correctly). I do not think it is version dependent.
 
The data that you save in Athena are ported to Artemis with 0
k-weighting, so you have to manually set your k-weighting in artemis if
you want to match the same k-weighting that you liked in athena. As you
know, there is k-weighting for FT and k-weigthting for plotting data in
k-space, which have nothing to do with each other. 
 
Note that the vertical axis in the bottom figure of your PDF file has
unit of A^-3 which means it was indeed k2-weighting in FT in Artemis.
You just have to make it k3 weighting in FT and it will give you the
same plot as the top figure (and the unit will be A^-4).
 
Anatoly

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Subject: Re: [Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis



Oops!  Forgot the attachments.  Sorry about that.

I should also add, the file I'm trying to import into Artemis is
"k_3.191_13.860".

-Richard


> Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption!  I'm currently
working
> on writing a short summary for our group based on the information
everyone
> shared.
>
> Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into
Artemis
> from Athena.  (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug
report
> and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.)
>
> The problem:  I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into
Artemis,
> but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead.  I
don't
> know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but
the
> k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the
fit
> k-weight as well.  Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing
> this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is
an
> issue only on my computer).  I tried changing the group name and
deleting
> all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still
occurs.
>
> Any ideas on how to get around this?
>
> FYI:  I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop
(1.7
> GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro.
>
> Thanks!!
> -Richard
>
> --
> Richard Mayes
>
> Barnes Group
> 450/452 Buehler Hall
> Department of Chemistry
> University of Tennessee
> Knoxville, TN 37996
>


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450/452 Buehler Hall
Department of Chemistry
University of Tennessee
Knoxville, TN 37996


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[Ifeffit] SA and issue with importing into Artemis

2007-11-09 Thread Richard Mayes
Everyone, thanks for the info on self absorption!  I'm currently working
on writing a short summary for our group based on the information everyone
shared.

Bruce, I'm having an issue importing a k3-weighted project into Artemis
from Athena.  (I looked on the mail list and your webpage for a bug report
and couldn't find one, my apologies if I missed it.)

The problem:  I'm trying to import a k3-weighted spectrum into Artemis,
but it appears to be importing the k2-weighted spectrum instead.  I don't
know if this is related or a change between versions of Artemis, but the
k-weight used in Athena isn't being carried over into Artemis as the fit
k-weight as well.  Attached is the Athena and Artemis projects showing
this and a pdf with pics of the 2 spectra I'm seeing (in case this is an
issue only on my computer).  I tried changing the group name and deleting
all the groups in Athena except the one I wanted and this still occurs.

Any ideas on how to get around this?

FYI:  I'm running Athena (0.8.054) and Artemis (0.8.011) on a laptop (1.7
GHz Pentium M processor & 2 GB RAM) with Windows XP Pro.

Thanks!!
-Richard

-- 
Richard Mayes

Barnes Group
450/452 Buehler Hall
Department of Chemistry
University of Tennessee
Knoxville, TN 37996

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