Re: [imp] Imp 4.2 weirdness

2008-07-10 Thread Kevin Konowalec


On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote:


Quoting Kevin Konowalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

To which I responded "Ah HAH!".  So I looked in the permissions  
setup, where I had added two permissions settings (max_recipients  
and max_timelimit).  Sure enough in the Mail (imp) permission for  
all authenticated users, all 4 checkboxes (show, read, edit,  
delete) were unchecked.  I checked "read" and saved it and  
immediately things went back to normal.


So my questions are:

1)  Did this actually solve the problem or am I going to piss off  
my users again when I put it back into production tomorrow morning?


You may piss them off, but not because of this. :)




That's more likely than not.  It's definitely a weird feeling to have  
75000 people simultaneously curse your name ;)




2)  Why would users be able to work normally for so long before  
horde decided it wanted to enforce the permissions?  Should they  
not have been failing right from the get-go?


Had you added the permissions before, did you add it at some point  
after launch? When you added the max_* permissions the parent  
permission would be autocreated; that's when you would have had  
trouble.


No I had added the permissions prior to launch, which is why it was so  
odd that it wouldn't fail right from the get-go.







3)  What are all the various permissions for (show, read, edit,  
delete)?  Which ones should be set?


For an application, the only relevant ones are show and read. Show  
means you can see that the application is installed; read means you  
can use it.






Should both show and read be explicitly set or does read imply show?

Thanks!!

K


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Re: [imp] Imp 4.2 weirdness

2008-07-10 Thread Chuck Hagenbuch

Quoting Kevin Konowalec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

To which I responded "Ah HAH!".  So I looked in the permissions  
setup, where I had added two permissions settings (max_recipients  
and max_timelimit).  Sure enough in the Mail (imp) permission for  
all authenticated users, all 4 checkboxes (show, read, edit, delete)  
were unchecked.  I checked "read" and saved it and immediately  
things went back to normal.


So my questions are:

1)  Did this actually solve the problem or am I going to piss off my  
users again when I put it back into production tomorrow morning?


You may piss them off, but not because of this. :)

2)  Why would users be able to work normally for so long before  
horde decided it wanted to enforce the permissions?  Should they not  
have been failing right from the get-go?


Had you added the permissions before, did you add it at some point  
after launch? When you added the max_* permissions the parent  
permission would be autocreated; that's when you would have had trouble.


3)  What are all the various permissions for (show, read, edit,  
delete)?  Which ones should be set?


For an application, the only relevant ones are show and read. Show  
means you can see that the application is installed; read means you  
can use it.


-chuck
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[imp] Imp 4.2 weirdness

2008-07-10 Thread Kevin Konowalec
So we put horde 3.2/imp 4.2 into production.  It ran fine for an hour  
or two... and then suddenly users were no longer able to access Imp.   
They'd just get a blank screen where the inbox should be.  Logging  
into Horde was fine - you'd get the sidebar with the options and what  
not (no Imp though) and the "problem report" button at the top (and  
believe me... people used that one a LOT).


We reverted to the old cluster so we could test the new one further.   
I turned on debug logging and saw the following:


 User [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not have READ permission for imp

I immediately assumed it was a database error of some kind.  But then  
one of my colleagues found the following snippet in /horde/lib/Horde/ 
Registry.php line 818:


* If permissions checking is requested, return an error if the
* current user does not have read perms to the application being
* loaded. We allow access:
*
* - To all admins.
* - To all authenticated users if no permission is set on $app.
* - To anyone who is allowed by an explicit ACL on $app. */

To which I responded "Ah HAH!".  So I looked in the permissions setup,  
where I had added two permissions settings (max_recipients and  
max_timelimit).  Sure enough in the Mail (imp) permission for all  
authenticated users, all 4 checkboxes (show, read, edit, delete) were  
unchecked.  I checked "read" and saved it and immediately things went  
back to normal.


So my questions are:

1)  Did this actually solve the problem or am I going to piss off my  
users again when I put it back into production tomorrow morning?
2)  Why would users be able to work normally for so long before horde  
decided it wanted to enforce the permissions?  Should they not have  
been failing right from the get-go?
3)  What are all the various permissions for (show, read, edit,  
delete)?  Which ones should be set?


Thanks

K
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[imp] Multiple autocomplete address books

2008-07-10 Thread Elliot Anders
I have three address books successfully working simultaneously in  
Turba, but Imp only sees the first one listed in the sources.php  
file.  Is there a setting other than those below I need to enable to  
get Imp's autocomplete feature to see the other two address books?  Re- 
arranging the Turba sources.php file does actually affect the imp  
autocomplete, but only one source ever works at any given time.


I'm using Horde Webmail 1.1, below is the relevant section of Imp's  
prefs.php:


// address book(s) to use when expanding addresses
// You can provide default values this way (note the \t and the double  
quotes):

// 'value' => "source_one\tsource_two"
// refer to turba/config/sources.php for possible source values
$_prefs['search_sources'] = array(
'value' => "marlboroldap\tlocalsql\tfavorites",
'locked' => true,
'shared' => false,
'type' => 'implicit');

// field(s) to use when expanding addresses
// This depends on the search_sources preference if you want to provide
// default values:
// 'value' => "source_one\tfield_one\tfield_two\nsource_two 
\tfield_three"

// will search the fields 'field_one' and 'field_two' in source_one and
// 'field_three' in source_two.
// refer to turba/config/sources.php for possible source and field  
values

$_prefs['search_fields'] = array(
'value' => "localsql\tname\temail\nmarlboroldap\tname\temail 
\nfavorites\tname\temail",

'locked' => true,
'shared' => false,
'type' => 'implicit');

// address book to use for adding addresses
// put $cfgSources array element name in the value field.
// Setting value to localsql would allow you to add contacts to MySQL  
database

// See turba/config/sources.php for more info
$_prefs['add_source'] = array(
'value' => 'localsql',
'locked' => true,
'shared' => false,
'type' => 'implicit'
);


Thanks for any insight,
Elliot
 
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Re: [imp] Why would dimp be slower to generate message list than imp?

2008-07-10 Thread Michael M Slusarz

Quoting gimili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Why would dimp be *significantly* slower to generate message list  
than imp on a large mailbox?


DIMP isn't slower per se - both DIMP and IMP use the exact same  
functions to generate the message lists.  However, DIMP processes a  
larger chunk of messages at a time than IMP does.  In a typical  
mailbox, IMP displays by default 20 messages per page while DIMP  
downloads, by default, 7 times the size of the current viewport (if  
the current viewport is 20 messages, DIMP downloads the message  
information for 140 messages).  The tradeoff is slightly slower  
initial display in DIMP for subsequent instantaneous scrolling through  
the mailbox (at least the portion that is loaded) while in IMP, you  
would have to wait for each subsequent page to load which takes much  
longer and also hammers the server (a single request for message info  
140 messages is more than 700% more efficient than 7 requests for 20  
messages each).


I also find if I delete a message it just puts a line through it  
whereas this works perfectly in imp.


This sounds like the bug that was discovered immediately after 1.0 was  
released and has already been fixed for 1.0.1.


michael

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Re: [imp] Marking a message as unseen

2008-07-10 Thread Elliot Anders

I am dumped back in the containing folder.
On Jul 10, 2008, at 11:55 AM, John H. Bennett III wrote:


Could I get someone to verify the following behavior please?

Open a message in imp, then mark it as unseen?  Do you move to the  
next message or do see the same message you just marked?  I stay at  
the message I just marked.  In the previous version, you were moved  
to the next message, which is what I would prefer.  I am trying to  
see if I missed a setting somewhere that I can't see, or if there  
was a change in how this works, or if this is a bug.


TIA,

John



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[imp] Marking a message as unseen

2008-07-10 Thread John H. Bennett III

Could I get someone to verify the following behavior please?

Open a message in imp, then mark it as unseen?  Do you move to the  
next message or do see the same message you just marked?  I stay at  
the message I just marked.  In the previous version, you were moved to  
the next message, which is what I would prefer.  I am trying to see if  
I missed a setting somewhere that I can't see, or if there was a  
change in how this works, or if this is a bug.


TIA,

John



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[imp] Problem logging into Gmail Imap

2008-07-10 Thread JLA ENTERPRISES DIRECT

Hi there,

Fresh installation of Horde Groupware 1.1.1 with IMP H3 4.2 and dimp h3 1.0
running on IIS6 all with no problems.  Tested IMP with AOL imap and
functioned as expected with no problems

Then went to test with Gmail imap and receive the following error when
attempting to login - 

Error connecting to IMAP server: [0] The operation completed successfully. .

IMAP is enabled in Gmail settings.  IMAP functions with outlook.  Also ran
IMP test script and was successful in receiving settings for the Gmail IMAP.

Any help appreciated.


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